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Toyota 4Runner - 2003

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  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    rsholland : I have wheel-mounted cruise controls on an older Toyota 4WD and it's the easiest and most convenient thing to operate. It sits right in front instead of behind the wheel. I guess it's what you get use to.

    paul147 : I'm 6'1" and fit just fine with the sunroof. Did the seat move vertically at all? I didn't think to look at the time.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    where did you drive the limited at ? As far as I know all limited were shipped with the moonroof and the six disc in dash player.

    mackabee
  • Makabee,
    I drove it at Champion Toyota South I35 Austin TX
    TX Toyota Distribution is different from the rest of the states and its too hot here most of the year to open a sunroof so Distribution allways get sunroof-less models too. I would actually prefer a sunroof myself, for the couple of months you can use it.
  • aufan1aufan1 Posts: 21
    I sat in the SR5 without a sunroof and fit fine. I am 6'6" with a long torso. The seat height adjusts, make sure the seat is all the way down. I had about 2-3 inches to spare above my head. Try again and goodluck.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    Here is an actual off-roading test for the new 4Runner:


    http://www.pnw4runners.net/jon_03_4Runner_offroad_test/jon.htm


    Just scroll down to the PICS and MOVIES!

  • Thats good news. For the life of me I can't figure out why I was hitting the headliner. I mentioned to the "salesman"*&^%$#@! that the sale is contingent on fitting into the vehicle. We checked to make sure everything was down and towards the back. It was. The only thing I can think of is that the optional trailer hitch that was in a box behind the seat might of slipped under the seat, causing the seat not to go down all the way. I'm off line and calling the dealer as we speak. Paul
  • Test drove a V8 SR5 last Friday.

    Lights
    ------
    For some reason you cannot get the brighter new xenon headlights. For
    that you need to wait and pay for the Lexus GX470. I don't know what
    they were thinking here. I like to keep vehicles a long time and like
    being able to get all the new technology when I do buy.

    Acceleration
    ------------
    I asked about the 0-60 compared to a Jeep Grand Cherokee and the sales
    guy quickly snapped: "7.1 sec. for the V8 4Runner and 8.1 sec. for the
    JGC".

    On the test drive I punched it many times and it certainly was not
    clear to me that it was as fast as my JGC. I couldn't tell whether it
    was slower or just so much smoother that it was hard to tell. The
    transmission shifted velvety smooth also.

    Definitely alot faster than previous 4Runners and all the V6 SUVs I
    have driven.

    Size
    ----
    I like the size. The added width made it handle pretty well although
    the unit I drove did not have the XREAS suspension that is supposed
    to be even better.

    Styling
    -------
    Seemed fine to me. The plastic fairings didn't bother me like they seem
    to with other folks here.

    Instrument Cluster
    ------------------
    At the time of day I drove it (4:15PM) the instruments seemed a little
    hard to see since they were so inset into the instrument panel. Not
    a big deal really though.

    Bottom Line
    -----------
    I was hoping to be blown away by the acceleration and was not. Despite
    this, I might very well get one anyway for the higher reliability. I
    may wait to see how the new V6 is. Of course the other benefits of
    waiting longer include slightly lower price and letting them find/fix
    any little early problems.
  • pwitzpwitz Posts: 51
    Drove the Limited on Saturday...very nice ride!
    I thought you would have some "control" over the rear air suspension, but I guess it is totally automatic or couldn't find how to play with it.
    Also, nice to have a moonroof of good size...worth
    the $800.

    What is the button to the left of the steering column...that has a picture of the 4 wheels with an X in the middle...is that to force rwd/2wd?

    Also, the question (stumped the salesman and GM)...take that silver plastic trim piece on the rear of the center console and lift it up....it locks into place forming a square with nothing in the middle...it isn't a cup-holder, cause those are in the rear center armrest....stumped.

    Anyone know what the manual specifies for gas?
    Is 87 okay or does the v8 want premium?

    After looking at for a while...limited is the way to go. It looks somewhat "squatty" with the square wheel arches...but color keyed is the way to minimize this, and is the way to go. GM was also skeptical of v6 Limiteds...anyone have any scoop?
  • aufan1aufan1 Posts: 21
    pwitz--I asked the same question to the salesman and stumped him too. My guess is that McDonald's has paid Toyota off to include fastfood amenities in the 4runner and this bar is a holder for a bag (such as those you would get at McDonalds). ie: six cup holders in the backseat alone, a "trash bag" holder, the flat panel that pulls out of the center armrest, which could hold frenchfries laid out nicely. I guess Toyota is making the vehicle adaptable to a moving dinner table. This is just my guess at what that silly pull out thing is.
  • pwitzpwitz Posts: 51
    The fast food bag/trash bag idea has some merit!
    I have to think it is something more than decorative.
  • kavinkkavink Posts: 6
    After driving this so called sport utility I will be buying the Infiniti G35. 260HP and very quite and smooth. The 4Runner is so carlike why not get the real thing. If you want a SUV better pay up for the LC. The plastic cladding is cheap -- I would wait for an 04 if you want a decent looking SR5
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    It is a trash bag holder.
  • tetra7tetra7 Posts: 3
    Don't forget to ask your salesfolks about TRDs supercharger for the V8. I have found out the option should be available in a few months time and specs are about equivalent to the 02 models.

    A supercharged V8 Limited should give the X5 and Cayenne a run for its money.
  • hlronhlron Posts: 113
    I'm a little more wordy than mrwhipple, but a sales person pulled it out and introduced it to me as a trash bag holder, as mrwhipple noted. For a plastic bag, like from a grocery store.

    Also, the sales person is 6'1" and he had no problems sitting in or getting into the 4Runner (which had a moon roof); he had room to spare, both in the front and back seats.

    I was impressed with the features, but I did not drive it.
    Ron
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    Maybe you need a sports car. Damn that's a lot of HP.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    Nicely explained.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    Toyota web site now states "late" November for new V6 availability.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    http://www.gocrvclub.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=6498#post6498


    Just scroll down until you see post with lots of links to pics and videos.

  • bobf8bobf8 Posts: 5
    Had an opportunity to test drive this over the weekend. Was never impressed with the old 4runner. This one however, IS impressive. Drove the SR5 Sport. There is no comparison with the old! I was amazed at how much larger this is then the old one. And the new V8, whoa! Now it has real guts! Which brings me to my question for folks. I'm very interested in this new version of the 4Runner. I have one concern that has been on tossed around on this message board. That is the towing package. The sales person I spoke to admitted it was a pretty hokey package that Toyota had put on. And he couldn't answer my question about how much can it really tow? Toyota says 5k lbs., there was a post here, indicating that according to user manual it's only 1K lbs. AND, what is the maximum tonge weight? AND, can the brakes handle stopping 5K, or are they upgraded with the "Towing" package.
    Anyone with any answers, I'd really appreciate hearing from!
    Thanks.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    The new (and old) 4Runner can tow 5000 lbs (trailer with brakes). It can tow only 1000 lbs with no-brakes trailer. Tongue weight is 500 lbs. This is the same as the 3rd gen 4Runner...the one that you hate so much! :)
  • bobf8bobf8 Posts: 5
    Had an opportunity to test drive this over the weekend. Was never impressed with the old 4runner. This one however, IS impressive. Drove the SR5 Sport. There is no comparison with the old! I was amazed at how much larger this is then the old one. And the new V8, whoa! Now it has real guts! Which brings me to my question for folks. I'm very interested in this new version of the 4Runner. I have one concern that has been on tossed around on this message board. That is the towing package. The sales person I spoke to admitted it was a pretty hokey package that Toyota had put on. And he couldn't answer my question about how much can it really tow? Toyota says 5k lbs., there was a post here, indicating that according to user manual it's only 1K lbs. AND, what is the maximum tonge weight? AND, can the brakes handle stopping 5K, or are they upgraded with the "Towing" package.
    Anyone with any answers, I'd really appreciate hearing from!
    Thanks.
  • bobf8bobf8 Posts: 5
    Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know if this limitation is due to just the hitch, or is it an issue with brakes/transmission/cooler/engine combination? If it's just the hitch, could one put a different hitch on it, and get true 5K towing capacity?
    I was very impressed with this, and that V8 certainly seems to me, like an added 5K would not be an issue for it.
    Thanks again.
  • A few of you mentioned that you drove a 4-runner 4x4 without the sunroof. I'd like to buy one immediately only if I could locate one. Where can I find one? I'd perfer to locate one in the the pacific NW. Thanks,Paul
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    But, an integrated hitch may not pull so much. An example is the Lexus LX470 and Toyota Land Cruiser. 2003 LX470 has an integrated hitch...it can tow only 5000 lbs. 2002 LX470 has an add-on hitch (bolted to frame) can tow 6500 lbs. 2003 Toyota LC (no integrated hitch) can tow 6500 lbs. I am ONLY SPECULATING...so don't take this to be the truth.

    However, the above example is of the TLC, not 4Runner. The 4Runner's frame is probably smaller. In addition, wheelbase on 4Runner is significantly smaller. This all must be taken into consideration when towing stuff.

    In my opinion, you will not be able to get around the 5000 lbs limit. Get a TLC if you need more.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,699
    Also, the '03 4Runner hitch is I believe(?) not meant for weight distribution hitches, but only for weight bearing hitches.

    As to the trailer brake issue, Toyota is not alone in their 1000 pound restriction. Most vehicles have a similar restriction. The vehicle can certainly "tow" 5000 pounds, however, the vehicle brakes can't stop an "extra" 5000 pounds, hence the need for trailer brakes.

    Bob
  • If anyone knows the answers to these please help:

    - When will leather be offered with the SR5; it appears to be "greyed out" option on Toyota's website when I go to build it myself.

    - Does Toyota use trans and/ or oil coolers on any of there trucks or SUVs? The 4runner does not have it as a towing option or standard equip. It does not look like the Sequoia has it either. If they do not offer this why?

    - What does this mean from the towing capacity footnote for the 4 runner?
    "The factory-installed receiver hitch on the 4Runner should only be used with weight-carrying hitch hardware, not weight-distributing hitch hardware. "
  • rvirgrvirg Posts: 2
    I have a tacoma v6 -supposed to be 5k towing capacity and just recently bought a 2100lb boat/trailer no brakes. Its common to have up to 2500 lbs w no brakes - so my question is this - ive moved it around for hundreds of miles - and although the v6 is underpowered for this - the V8 4Runner does seem to have plenty of punch to move this water toy. So previous comments to 1000 lbs?? I dont get it - even a 4cyl Tacoma cam prob move 1000.
    I am getting the 4runner only for this reason - because Toyota cant get their stuff together and make a V8 full size truck that isnt a joke --- and for the first time with the 4runner - it seems to be a valid contender. Its either that or get a ford or chevy ---- i was almost there - until i drove the V8 4Runner this wknd.
    But where can we all find towing numbers ?? and who said 1000lbs originally ?? that has to be wrong. Im sure if i hook up my 2200lbs in the back of that new 4Runner I may forget I have anything behind me.

    Curious about Towing.
  • mrwhipplemrwhipple Posts: 378
    SR5 leather.

    The dealer should be able to have leather put in for you. I had a dealer offer it to me for somewhere between $1000 & $1500 with many color and grade choices. I didn't press the price any farther because I wasn't buying just yet.

    They did mention they could not put in leather with the side air bag option because of some legality issues with the bags being in the seats themselves.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,699
    Check your owners manual. I bet, under towing trailers, there's a statement regarding trailer brake restrictions. As I recall, it's "caution-type blurb" with a yellow background.

    Bob
  • I'm considering buying a new 4-Runner 4WD (I have a 99 Limited 4WD) after the first of the year and can't decide between the V6 and the V8. I average about 25,000 miles per year, mostly (60%) highway at high speed and I seldom trailer anything. I do go off road (hunting and fishing) but seldom through really rough stuff. I live in LA (Lower Alabama :-)) so the AC gets used a lot. What do y'all recommend? Thanks in advance.
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