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Acura TSX

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  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    "The TSX is on my short list for my next new car as is the Camry."

    Now I know I'm not the only one who looked at a TSX but went with the Camry ;)

    I loved the TSX 6-sp but thought the auto was a little wimpy. Beautiful interior and nice looking exterior. In the end, the lack of a local dealer and the fact that I didn't want to go back to shifting for myself steered me the the Camry SE-V6.

    The Camry has a better ride though gives up some handling prowess. I'm a little disappointed in the highway mileage which is only averaging around 26 mpg. But I love it none the less.
  • nyernyer Posts: 32
    I appreciate your thoughts and will consider them. Regarding my experience with the TSX. I drove and owned a '98 Passat V6 before buying the TSX. One of my concerns was the power of the engine, especially when needing to jump from 40 to 70mph in certain highway situations. So far I have been pleasantly surprised. This car is tighter and it's power is sufficient to suit me. Gas mileage is a plus, since I am getting roughly 24 mpg in around town driving and 26-28 in mixed conditions (hway/local). I am taking a 200 mile mostly highway trip in a week, so I am curious to see what kind of mileage per gallon I will get.
    Definitely, the ride is stiffer in the TSX than the Passat, but that is because it is a sports car. I personally did not drive the Camry, but don't think it will be as sporty as the TSX. With all the options included and purchasing the Navigation system, I find the TSX to be extremely good value for the money.
  • copseyalcopseyal Posts: 36
    I just rolled up 27K miles on my 2004 TSX, and have nothing but great things to say about the car thus far. As far as the oil changing goes, I have been doing every 5K and rotating the tires ever 10K. The manual actually says it doesn't need the oil changed but every 10K miles for normal driving, and about every 5K I believe for rougher driving. Just been goin with the 5K to this point, but may go to every 3K as the car gets more miles on it. Been having nearly identical fuel mileage as Nyer in my TSX to date. Now if gas could just come down. I paid $2.97 gallon this morning for premium!!! :cry:
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    Are you changing your own oil and filter and, if so, how difficult or easy is it?
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Posts: 621
    Changing the oil and filter is quite easy. Getting to them is another story.

    Even using a floor jack or ramps, I found there just wasn't really enough clearance between my face and the undercarriage to make oil changes a pleasant experience. This isn't to say it can't be done, it's just a pain in the butt.

    I eventually purchased a mid-rise scissors-lift for my garage to make working on my family's cars easier. Here's a photo. A mechanic's creeper makes things easier, too.

    In addition to an oil-collection container, you'll want a 10mm socket to remove a small plastic cover beneath the oil pan, and a 14mm (or maybe 17mm) socket to remove the oil drain plug. You'll also want a wad of shop towels to clean up when you remove the filter, which will pretty much drip all over the place, since it's mounted horizontally.
  • I don't know if the TSX engine is exactly the same, but I reach the oil filter on our 99 2.3 CL by removing the left front tire. I can then easily reach up to the filter.
    I just use the jack in the trunk, and then place a jack stand under for safety.
  • wrjoycewrjoyce Posts: 51
    Went by a dealer and asked about the 2006 changes i read about on the web, the guy said only color choice is the big change, he knew nothing about any other substantial changes. How do we confirm this besides someone finding a web page that says there will be changes.
  • proffyproffy Posts: 46
    Acura and honda have yet to annouce anything. But I've found that generally the dealers don't know crap. Even if they did, they'd still try and get you to buy now.
  • tom_laztom_laz Posts: 1
    Considering a black TSX with black interior, looking for opinions from those who have this combo as far as maintenance and overall enjoyment of the look. Initially considered black with parchment, thought it might be harder to keep clean over the winter months.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    As for the 1st oil change within Acuras...you want to adhere to their recommended mileage before performing the initial change. I know that many of you here are saying to do it much soon as that is logical and you had success with other cars...but there is something different with Acuras.

    Acuras initial oil fill includes an additive formulated for breaking-in the car (the most critical factor to longevity). You want to allow the additive to perform its duty. Refer to the 'break-in period' secion of the owner's manual...and this was confirmed by the lead service manager at my Acura dealership. Keep it in for closer to the 10k mark...with perhaps changing it at 7.5k if driven harshly or conditions warrant.

    After the initial change...I suggest following a more frequent changing schedule...including the change of the oil filter each time.
  • indybobindybob Posts: 10
    My wife has Black with parchment interior. Black is hard to keep clean and needs waxing often to look best. As far as the parchment interior goes, if you get the all weather mats the rest is no harder to keep clean than any other color. I use Meguires leather wipes for quick clean ups and in 8 months it still looks great. Black interior is hotter in the summer months. Hope this helps.
  • johnny420johnny420 Posts: 473
    Black is a harder color to keep clean looking, but of the TSX's I've seen, including my SSM, the well-maintained black ones are absolutely the sharpest looking, IMO. Personally, I like the parchment/black combo over black/ebony, but both are definitely nice. :D

    Johnny
  • drewbadrewba Posts: 154
    I have an ebony (black) interior and it shows every speck of dust. I'd personally still choose it over parchment, but be prepared to vacuum the interior as often as you wash that black exterior!
  • laineylainey Posts: 62
    October R&T has it! Found this pic on another forum. Someone thankfully scanned the mag and posted it. No view of the back though. Like the integrated fogs but don't see much difference other than that. Integrated turn signals now in the mirror?? Maybe the tailights will have a more significant change. Sorry I can't figure out how to insert the pic in the message body.

    http://steiner.gamma.timdorr.com/tsx.jpg
  • With gas prices sky rocketing, can anyone tell me if the TSX requires premium gas or if it could take regular or plus?
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    I thought they already had integrated turn signals in the mirror, so that wouldn't be a new feature only for 2006 models.
    I wonder what the fuel economy will be?
  • laineylainey Posts: 62
    They are currently on the outside. I think on the '06 they are actually IN the mirror glass so only the driver and people behind you can see it.
  • drewbadrewba Posts: 154
    At least in this picture, the style of the wheels doesn't look right on the car IMHO.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Premium grade gas is recommended. However...from other postings above (which you should read...and not just rely on my posting)...mid-grade works well.

    Now...for decision making purposes...if you want 'economy'....buy an economy car. For a well balanced sports-luxury....consider a TSX.

    Also...people are making too much out of the price difference between premium and regular. If you drive 12,000 miles a year at 25mpg (In reality...you will get about 27+mpg)...you will require 480 gallons. At a $0.20 price difference between premium and regular...you are looking at $96 a year or 52 weeks! Geez...that is $1.82 a week! Just buy one less Cola and enjoy the ride of a sports-luxury vehicle.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    At a $0.20 price difference between premium and regular...you are looking at $96 a year or 52 weeks!

    I appreciate the argument. But do you or others you know go slightly out of their way to get gas at Costco, to save less than half that amount? I would buy premium if premium was recommended, but I can understand the desire.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    It would be nice if someone made a car that was both luxurious, quiet and comfortable to ride in, yet also got very high gas mileage. Most high MPG cars are too "cheap" in materials, ride and appearance.
    RX400h gas mileage is not that great. A 40 mpg TSX would be nice.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    But do you or others you know go slightly out of their way to get gas at Costco, to save less than half that amount?

    Glad you brought that question up....

    Believe it or not...I and many others get different MPG from different grades of gas AND brands.

    For cars optimized for premium, you will find the best mpg when the designated gas type is used. Yes...the TSX will run on regular...but it is likely to get about 1 or 2 mpg less. Honest. Read through this (and the TL) board and you will see.

    As for Costco gas...I used the premium grade in one of my previous cars (Infiniti). Although Costco is about $0.10 less, the mpg is less..all but negating the cash difference.

    Also...I get the best mpg from Chevron and Shell...running under similar driving and road conditions.

    What are others thoughts?
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    It would be nice to have luxury, comfort, etc...and get high gas mileage. As 307web indicated...sure would be great to get a TSX at 40mpg.

    However...this is the issue. The TSX is a 200hp four door sedan that has great utility for the passengers...great fun for the driver....and has a rather sizable trunk. Stack that up and you also get 27mpg mixed driving...and well over 30mpg on the highway. Now to me....the mpg is great for what fun and enjoyment you will receive...while having the ability to purchase a well appointed car for the mid 20k's.

    Now...if you want economy...look at what you will find in Europe and Canada:

    http://www.smart.com
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    A TSX with the 2.2l iCTDi diesel would get about 50MPG. Look for one at a dealer near you in about 2 years. :shades:
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Here is a dilimma with a diesel...
    1) Total ownership cost may be higher as the diesel car costs more at the time of purchase. Save some minimal gas dollars...pay more for the car...not a receipe for success.
    2) Performance will not compare to a gas engine.
    3) Repairs costs may be higher
    4) More difficult to find a diesel dispenser.

    Now...I am not bashing diesel as that may be an alternative. But goes along with what I am saying in the recent posts. People are too focused on marginal incremental costs between fuel types. Save some money on a fuel type but pay more overall costs to own and run the vehicle with less joy.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    A diesel should get more than "minimal" improvement in fuel economy. It may not be cheaper depending on the price premium, but that's not the whole point. I could buy a 5 year old Ford Focus for $5000 and save more money.
    Having a 700 mile cruising range and diesel torque for around town driving would be nice.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Exactly....I could buy a TSX for the mid-20k's...get great performance, cruise long distances in comfort...and get 32mpg on the highway. I'll drink a few less Starbucks to save some money and enjoy the TSX.

    Or as '307web' indicates: I could buy a 5 year old Ford Focus for $5000 and save more money.
  • The knowledgeable, if not conventional, wisdom is that cars that are designed to benefit from premium (i.e. high compression and knock sensors optimized for 91 octane) will run on regular without damage, but at a penalty in performance, and perhaps fuel consumption.

    So let's think about the penalty in gas mileage for a moment. Back in the day (a year ago) when gas was "only" $1.60/gallon for regular, it was $1.80/gal for premium. So your premium-fuel car that got 30 mpg cost you 6 cents a mile in fuel... and the "break-even" point for using regular was about 27 mpg (26.7 to be exact). Fast forward to now, with premium touching $3/gallon... it's 10 cents a mile... and if regular only costs $2.80/gallon, you need to get at least 28 mpg on regular to break even!

    As gas prices spiral upward, the "premium for premium" on a percentage basis goes down, so it makes even less sense to be a cheap-skate than it did before!
  • Although diesel costs more now, who knows about the future. I would trade for the 2.2L diesel in a second. The torque difference will offset the HP loss. In the city, I would prefer torque. It is also amongst the best diesels made anywhere.

    Someone above suggested 2 yrs until Honda brings this engine to North America. Is this scuttlebutt or fact? About that time, I may be looking to trade my 04 tsx. If Honda or Lecus IS doesn't offer their Euro diesels, I would consider a diesel Passat, ugly and all.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    diesel costs more now, who knows about the future

    Exactly....we don't know the future and by the time the future reaches us, there will be other alternatives away from diesel.

    If Honda or Lecus IS doesn't offer their Euro diesels, I would consider a diesel Passat, ugly and all.

    I don't drive ugly cars. I don't buy just for a mode of transportation. It is like saying I will buy ugly clothes because it is more economical. Nah...
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