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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today!

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    Unless it's a UR Quattro coupe - there's a cult around those now, and they are legit collectibles.
  • omarmanomarman Posts: 674
    I like the URQ coupes too and there's enough interest to keep them alive and collectible. A really nice one, well kept and sorted would be worth what? Maybe $15k-$20k? But when it comes to the Sport Quattro...wow! The clamor for that car has been truly fanatic. It was the one with short stubby wheelbase, limited production, +300 hp and too much fun for 80s US certification. Insane price when new and bid up at auction now as well. Maybe $100k American money? Has anyone here ever seen a real one while visiting Europe or some museum?
  • yeah, a really fantastic '83-'85 Quattro Coupe could bust $20K.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    edited December 2012
    Ask and ye shall receive. These are at the Audi Museum in Ingolstadt:

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    Cool displays:

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    Also in 2009, I was driving on a secondary road between Stuttgart and Ulm, and saw a Sport Quattro on the road, appeared to have just come out of a restoration and was out for testing. I just about fell out of my car.

    I had a thing for UR Quattros when I was a kid - they were about as exotic as I could imagine, and were setting the rally world on its head at the time. You could even get a talking option
  • omarmanomarman Posts: 674
    Am I the only one who sometimes gets jealous over Fintail's good fortune in life? Even his freaking craigslist is better than mine. And now this! Ha! :P Just kidding.

    Gotta love that "blasted plains" exhibit which makes Audi's Group B cars look right at home. And along with the museum tour you actually saw a road car version out on the street? Amazing.

    Didn't all digital dash URQ's have the autocheck voice box instead of warning lights? If the voice warning system was defective or disabled, the driver would not be alerted to a serious problem like, "Achtung bremse system defekt!" :lemon:
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,320
    edited December 2012
    ...bid to only $16,100.

    BIN was $23.5K.

    I have to partly attribute it to the auction ending between Christmas and New Year's. I'm quite surprised at that low level of bidding. Two bids.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Awesome cars, I remember watching those race.
  • $16,000 is market correct price for a '61 Sedan deVille in #2 (local show) condition. $20,000 would be stunning Pebble Beach perfect, as new.

    so the bidders are right on top of it here.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,556
    a 70ish Beetle. Orange. Not restored, but seemed to be in pretty good shape overall.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,320
    edited December 2012
    That's a lot of car for that money, IMHO. When I see what some other more mundane stuff goes for, this Caddy looks better than ever to me. As I alluded to earlier, I have a 'car crush' on that thing! ;)

    I haven't seen, on eBay, a more authentic, interior and exterior, down-to-the-details, stock domestic car in quite awhile, and the rarity is appealing to me.

    Now, if I had an extra $23.5K laying around, plus $2,500 or so to get it here from CA!
  • well the market isn't based on a car's merit---it's based on supply and demand...how many of Car X are out there, and, of course, how many people want Car X.

    I see some issues with that car---being a 4-door is a value suppressor, and the color isn't everyone's cup of tea.

    there's not a lot you can do with a car like that---it's very large, so hard to garage, complicated to repair, very little aftermarket support, and value trends have been absolutely flat for the past 6-8 years.

    But you're right, for the bucks, it's a lot of car if you like that sort of thing.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    edited December 2012
    It's nice being single and usually living below my means - I can have fun now and then :shades: I'll just rub it in that I have been to the museums of every German maker + Sinsheim + 'Ring + AMG facility + Sindelfingen factory. The money might be smarter to some rotting in a retirement account, but you only live once...

    Audi Museum was cool. Admission was only like 3 Euro, I think, and it had those cool displays along with other group B cars, and the rest. I don't do guided tours, I just wander around and discover.

    I don't know if all URs were talkers, but I do find it funny that the "fasten seat belt" alert comes after the defective brakes alert. As I was a kid in the 80s, I love talking cars and digital displays. Too bad MB never used either.

    Here it is in English - the German voice is much nicer, IMO. In my rental A8 on my last trip, the English nav voice was grating and demanding kind of like this.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    I agree, it is a lot of flash for the cash, and even at a major show, you'll be the only one - I know you appreciate uniqueness too.

    I bet he'd take 20K or maybe even a little less for it if you showed up with cash at his door. If I wanted a cool space-age land yacht, I would be all over that thing.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,575
    I bet he'd take 20K or maybe even a little less for it if you showed up with cash at his door. If I wanted a cool space-age land yacht, I would be all over that thing.

    Heck, I'm kinda tempted myself, even though I prefer the 1962 models. But, I swore to myself I wouldn't raid any more home equity unless it was absolutely necessary.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,320
    I don't wish to be single, but...I am jealous of guys like andre and fintail when it comes to stuff like this!
  • I don't wish to be single, but...

    Hmmmm... I'm still on the fence.... ;)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    Oh, I wouldn't blow 20K on an old car. One extra mouth to feed is enough. But, if I wanted something like that, I can't imagine it being better than that Caddy.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,320
    edited December 2012
    Me, too. Buying an old car is an emotional thing. I can dig out the latest Old Cars Price Guide all day long (do they really need to update it bi-monthly?), but I simply haven't seen that nice of a car (in that I value originality and authenticity, and uniqueness is a bonus), at that price, in a looonnnngggg time.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,885
    That car might be hard to value other than subjectively - it is a weird design and color scheme, but the condition and preservation can't be duplicated. You couldn't get a rat to be that nice for that money.

    Unless I somehow experience a large income gain or inherit a fortune from an unknown source, I doubt I will buy another old car. Sometimes keeping the one I have seems kind of silly. But, I am sentimental about some things.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,320
    I always said that I would keep my Lark Daytona Skytop R1 forever. I did have it 23 years. But when the buyer came pursuing, I started thinking about college coming up for my daughter. I do miss the car, but the current owner has done a lot to the car, only improving it. I did a driver restoration on it, which was more than the three or four owners prior to me did! ;)

    I'm not a mechanic, and I find it harder to find anyone who will work on an old car around me.

    I bought my '64 Daytona on a whim (wife said, "Go for it"), but it was under $5K. And I got what I paid for! With it and the Skytop taking our entire garage space, I realized soon that I was in over my head.

    I bought the '66 last year, after selling the other two, thinking I'd have it a long time. It was rock-solid everyplace and ran like a dream, but I thought the paint was amateurish for a car as otherwise so nice, and I just ended up not liking it as much as I thought I would.

    I would like another Stude at some point, just don't see it this year.

    I never had any of my three cars advertised for sale; I was pursued on all three of them and got my asking prices without haggling.

    My wife says I'm like George Costanza, since all three went to Australia--an 'import/exporter'. Another friend, a Mopar guy, says I'm like a Studebaker dealer.

    Back to the Cadillac...just lovely in every way to me. And the color is so 1961 to me...better than white, red, or black any day of the week to me.
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