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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today!

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,325
    edited January 2013
    What in its class when new would have brought that much? I guess we'll never know, but somehow I doubt a Pinto or Gremlin (not V8) would bring that. I've seen Cosworths on eBay that didn't bring that much--but not at 35K miles.

    My best man bought a Cosworth with 13K miles that had been within 15 miles of his hometown its whole life, and in fact had been sold new at our hometown dealer (I rode in it when I was 17 years old). Very clean in and out, and ran well. He paid somewhere just slightly north of $4K--although that was about 15 years ago, at a Chevy dealer.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,577
    Sometimes I'll see yahoos at Carlisle trying to sell a Gremlin for $4995 or $5995 or so. But, of course, they don't sell, and pop back up at another show sometime later. And these aren't pristine, showroom-new looking things. Usually they have a little rust on them, and look like used cars. In good shape for a ~40 year old used car, for sure. But, nothing that's going to Pebble Beach anytime soon. More like, IMO, some neat, oddball beater that you might be willing to pay $1000 for, at best, and drive around and have fun with.
  • yeah it's the low miles that's the point. Someone guarded that car and purposely kept the miles low but the condition pristine. So my point was that the tremendous effort brought meager rewards.

    Oh a Gremlin X w/ 304 V8 could easily top $8500 if it was a really nice one. As high as $11.5K. A 6 cyl Gremlin could probably hit $9.5K if pristine.

    But not a Pinto

    A Cogsworth Vega maximum potential would be about $14K.

    Actually, given the condition of that '76 Vega, I would say it actually underperformed for its class and type at $8500.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,577
    What would that Vega have sold for new, back in 1976? I just ran the numbers on an inflation calculator, and $8600 today equates to about $2131 back then.

    But, in 1976 I doubt if you could even get a stripper Vega, let alone a GT, for that little. Although it doesn't have a/c, only has an AM radio. I can't tell from the pics whether it has power steering or brakes. So, other than the GT package, I guess it IS a stripper.

    The only real price reference points I have for that timeframe is 1975, when my Mom bought a new LeMans coupe, and my grandparents bought a new Dart Swinger, and both were about $5,000.

    I guess very few classic cars ever get back up to their original MSRP, when you adjust for inflation.
  • Now calculate insurance and garage and maintenance costs for 35 years :P
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,577
    I saw a story on the internet not too long ago, where a thief stole a brand-new Corvette back in the 1980's. I forget the exact year, but it was a C4. Anyway, he actually got away with it, but it got to the point that he could no longer afford to keep it in storage, so he turned himself in!

    I don't know if he ever tried to insure/register it or not.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,596
  • Cool. They only paid double what it was worth, on a car that continues to depreciate---that's smart investing!
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,325
    edited January 2013
    Andre, that Vega has the Custom Interior package and the side stripes--both actually optional on even a Vega GT.

    Totally off the cuff, my guess is that that Vega was probably right around $4K on the sticker. Cosworths were $6K and up (sticker). I was looking at new Vegas at that time and that's a fairly educated guess (not to sound 'vain'!).

    The 5-speed trans was also optional, as was AM radio, as you noted, plus whatever the destination charge was back then. Can't remember if it has power steering or not, which would have been optional. Swing-out quarter windows were optional. I'll have to look back at the ad to see what all the car has.

    I never look for Gremlins or Pintos on eBay, honestly, but whenever a clean Vega non-Cosworth like this one comes up (rarely, trust me), there always seems to be a good bit of bidding interest on it...unlike Cosworths and general Vega mongrels which are always on eBay.
  • Now here's an optimist's version of a car advertisement I just saw: (misspelled words were left in place)

    "FOR SALE 1967 VOLVO 122 4 DOOR, GREAT SHAPE, A LITTLE RUST BUT ALL THE CROME AND DECALS ALL ON CAR. HAS A RAG TOP VERY RARE ,THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. IT WILL START RIGHT UP BUT NEEDS NEW BATTERY AND NEW ENGINE SEALS IT LEAKS OIL BAD, I WAS GOING TO FIX IT BUT HAVE NO TIME . YT FATHER STARTED WORKING ON IT BUT NEVER FINSHED THE JOB SO THE TRANNY IS OUT BUT I HAVE IT AND ALL THE OTHER PARTS HE REMOVED. ITS A BEAUTIFUL CAR JUST NEEDS TLC . IF YOUR INTERESTED CONTACT ME AT XXXXXX"
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,559
    if this is his idea of "great shape" I would hate to see "needs work".

    and is he implying that a 120 series has a fabric top?

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,325
    Just looked on ebay, including completed sales (although I'm not sure how far that goes back)--only two Gremlins that have sold showed up...one for $2,850 with 122K miles that looks nice in the pics, and the other, a V8 (not 'X') with 27,500 miles with a dent and scrape on the one side, that sold for $5,010.00 last week.

    I couldn't even find any Cosworth Vegas that sold under 'completed sales'.
  • here's one that sold on eBay for $12K---- a Gremlin X with 12,000 orig miles!

    http://media.collectorcarpricetracker.com/auction_data/2012/10/29/121007490104/1- 21007490104.pdf
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,325
    edited January 2013
    Only 12.8K miles...they don't come any newer than that.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 892
    I grew up near the AMC plant in Kenosha, My uncles worked there and my Dad for a while, he had a Gremlin and I owned two when I was a teenager. Cheap cars to own, easy to work on and the boneyards around here were loaded with cheap parts. I have no desire to own, drive or ride in one ever again.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,887
    A 122/Amazon could be fitted with a full length webasto style sunroof.

    Funny ad, reminds me of the Ghostbusters car scene.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Rare survivor may be increasing the value.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,442
    I commuted with a couple of other guys for a while.
    One of them had a beater Gremlin.
    The passenger side window was always open a bit due to the piece of rope tied around the frame to hold the door closed.
    I can't remember what we attached it to inside the car.
  • Oh yeah, Gremlins drive like something you built in your backyard.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,887
    Saw 2 old style S-10 Blazers this evening - my dad had one of those, it was falling apart when he got rid of it 20 years ago, must be a labor of love to keep one going now. Also a W126 in the same color as my old car, diamond blue - couldn't see if it was actually the same car.
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