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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today!

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  • berriberri Posts: 4,138
    Oh yeah, Gremlins drive like something you built in your backyard.

    ...and look like a high back tennis shoe - no offense Converse! Come to think about it, maybe it started a styling trend. Later on the Ford Tempo and Mercury Topaz kind of looked like a tennis shoe that someone had stepped on.
  • merckxmerckx Posts: 565
    I saw a mid 80s Marcos at a local...i thought they were just from the early seventies. The owner said it was prepared for the NY auto show with a V8 engine-Wern't most of them sixes?
    not a very attractive car, but it was fun to see. I'd never seen one in the flesh before....
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,167
    The espenses you list are sunk costs, so those expenses really don't matter to today's buyer. Frankly, I'm surprised anyone would pay as much as $8,500 for a Vega, even a Cosworth, unless it was for the purpose of flipping it with a high probability of making a profit. It's not worth that as an econobox, an there wouldn't be $8,500 worth of pleasure - for me, at least - to display it at car shows. It might be worth that in 35 more years, when it'd be an extremely rare novelty that no car show visitor recalled.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,116
    That Volvo ad reminds me of this ad for a lost dog:

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    edited January 2013
    Even then you never know. I know a guy who has the last surviving specimen of a 1920s car---and it's worth no more than a 1920s Buick. Why? Because nobody cares--well, nobody with money cares. A museum cares, but it has no money, so it cannot affect the price. Passion doesn't drive up prices---a checkbook does.

    Sunk costs are, true enough, water over the dam, but with cars you can also have prospective costs.

    Say you own a Ferrari F40. It's fun, it's great--you're out tracking it and you miss a shift----oops, you just spent $75,000 for an engine.

    Unless you own a very VERY blue chip and rare car that everyone lusts after, your "investment" of $8500 can evaporate in the snap of the fingers.

    That's the weird thing about classic cars---North Korea invades South Korea and your Camaro is suddenly worth half. Very bizarre.

    I guess "toys" are very vulnerable to economic conditions.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    Never expected to see one of those, especially as a current driver in the winter.
    Other than a missing left front wheel cover and being covered with salt, looked to be in pretty good shape.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 894
    Haven't seen a X-body in years. Saw a Ford Maverick yesterday, looked like it was ready to be retired.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    I came close to considering an '85 Citation X-11 before I ordered my Celebrity Eurosport, but I figured I'd take a hit on resale value (back when I traded every three years or so). Same car mechanically, even same wheelbase as my Celebrity was. Tom Jumper Chevy in Sandy Springs, GA had several to choose from, when other dealers had none. His lot of new Chevys was so big they drove you around it in a golf cart.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,040
    Saw one a few weeks back. It was traveling the opposite direction and didn't look rusted through. It was the golden brown color that was popular for those. I have no idea what year it was other than a 4-door with sloped back.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,138
    Years back there was a huge Long Chevrolet in Elmhurst, west of Chicago. You'd spot it coming into O'Hare sometimes. One night, GMAC must have hired every tow truck within 20 miles and cleaned out the lot.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,499
    I saw a yellow Citation 4 door a year or so ago, it looked mint. Funniest thing is that it had "Collector" plates. How times moves by.
  • Years ago I got to ride in a very special Chevy Citation. The car was a GM test mule, and, the performance it had was simply awesome. After the ride, the test engineer popped the hood for me. I was looking at a turbocharged Buick 3.8 V6. Turns out the car had the prototype drivetrain destined for the Buick Grand National.

    Regards:
    Oldbearcat
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,499
    edited January 2013
    Out in the rain this morning: 87-88 Ciera driven by a 75 year old woman with her 100 year old mother as passenger, early 90s Ciera with back-up damage driven by a man who was probably that woman's father, and a driver quality 59 Cadillac flat top, white with a coral roof.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    Front drive turbo v6? I hope you wore your seat belt. :)
  • berriberri Posts: 4,138
    Once they got the initial kinks out, I thought the Citation was a nicer car than competitive K cars or Tempo and Topaz. More comfortable ride.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,138
    This evening at the gas station I saw a rather pristine 80's Mark VII LSC. It was a white coupe , yet it still looked rather classy to me.
  • Sure did. The driver punched that beast in our plant parking lot, and, about threw me in the back seat. My son once owned a Citation X-11, and, it didn't have anywhere near the get up and go the test mule did.

    Regards:
    Oldbearcat
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    This evening at the gas station I saw a rather pristine 80's Mark VII LSC. It was a white coupe , yet it still looked rather classy to me.

    That's probably the last Lincoln I've liked. I always thought those were pretty cool in their day. A bit of class and attitude.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,846
    Once they got the initial kinks out, I thought the Citation was a nicer car than competitive K cars or Tempo and Topaz. More comfortable ride.

    I agree. They definitely felt roomier inside. I think the K-cars were a bit wider inside (but had paper-thin doors), but the X-bodies had better legroom, while still being wide enough.

    Now, I always thought the Citation looked pretty cheap inside, at least in base form...much more plasticky than a Reliant or Aries. But, the Phoenix, Omega, and Skylark versions, when equipped the right way, could be downright luxurious inside.

    I developed a new-found respect for the K-car though, when I drove my cousin's Dodge 600 one day. Okay, technically, it was an E-car, but it was still the K with a 3 inch stretch in wheelbase. It seemed roomy and comfy enough, and a good alternative to the Chevy Celebrity, Ford LTD, or even the Taurus. However, I didn't like the fact that they were depending on turbo 4's for added power, instead of a good old fashioned V-6. But, my cousin's 600 was a turbo, and decently quick for the time.

    The Tempo and Topaz never seemed like much more than cheap, basic transportation to me.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,167
    I think explorerx4 may have been referring to torque steer even more than acceleration. It must have been wild in a FWD car with that much torque, at a time when they hadn't yet mastered the art of controlling FWD torque steer.

    The Buick GN wasn't afflicted with torque steer, of course, since it was RWD.
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