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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today!

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    edited February 2013
    I remember liking those GTs when I was in high school. Around 1993-94 maybe, I remember my dad pointing out an ad for one, and saying I should get something like that. The car was still like 8K used, and I just replied "you going to buy it for me?" As I was maybe 16-17 and didn't exactly have that kind of cash saved up. He was very into a first car being an old car, which is why I started with a 66 Ford. Taught me about dealing with cold stalling, flooding, steering when the car stalls in motion, anyway.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,651
    He was very into a first car being an old car, which is why I started with a 66 Ford. Taught me about dealing with cold stalling, flooding, steering when the car stalls in motion, anyway.

    LOL, I can relate. My grandpa was nice enough to give me his '75 Buick Regal when I got my license in '87. It taught me many of the things you mentioned above. It taught me to never leave the house in the winter without a heavy coat, hat, gloves, and always have a good pair of walking shoes no matter what the weather was;)

    OTOH, I get get 6+ teenage girls in it, so it wasn't all bad;)
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    as the car was pretty trouble free otherwise.

    Mine was a total nightmare. It was a loaded to gills LX silver/grey leather. Off the top of my head, it had the HG failure, tie rods two/three times, idled at 3K intermittently, leaked everything, blew air only through defrost, and the WOT tranny problem. This was all between about 65K and 100K.

    I'm sure I missed a few things, but I can tell you my previous 89 Grand Marquis was much more reliable.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited February 2013
    One thing I hated (besides the motorized mice) was the oil filter was on the side of the block, above the exhaust. Very poor placement, you had to reach up from the bottom to get to it, and I would use a diaper to catch the oil that spilled no matter what you did.

    You could get an oil filter relocation kit for the Miata but I never found one for the Escort.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    I had a very late model Mustang rental once, about 25 years ago, in Richmond, VA. I can't recall if it was a four or a six, but it went 50 mph without my foot on the gas. I went out to dinner with a coworker who's a Ford guy (I still work with him at a different company), and he accused me of being a complainer and Ford-hater. I took him for a ride and his eyes about bugged out to see my foot wasn't even on the gas.

    Similarly, my '81 Monte Carlo, when cold, would barely stop in reverse--even as a new car. You'd have to stand on the pedal to get it to stop. I never took it in for that, but a couple years later I met a guy at work who had a Cutlass Supreme and he complained about that, saying he'd better not hit a kid because of that and if he did GM would be sorry.

    I never heard any media attention to either of those issues.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    Now that I remember it, the Taurus got taken in for a warranty claim, as a strut started making noise within a few weeks of purchase. The AC was also long gone by the time that gasket blew. I think it also lost a starter or alternator sometime in its life. But no leaks or weird things come to mind. My mom is pretty easy on a car though.

    Oh yeah, I swear it had an 85mph speedo too - in 1993!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    I drove my friend's 1983 Monte Carlo (305) once - I think it idled around 15mph. Braking seemed to require more planning than I was used to.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    The Galaxie was an 8 passenger - and it was a 2 door :shades:

    Really has moved me away from ever wanting a carb car. The 9mpg combined with insane cold-bloodedness, and what seemed like constant adjustments.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    That's what shops are for :shades:
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,051
    I've never had enough road to get up to 50, but on level ground, most of my old cars, when warming up, will idle up to around 30 mph or so without touching the gas pedal.

    They might actually get up higher, but I've never had the opportunity. Either a red light, stop sign, sharp turn, or hill would present itself before I got going too far.

    Even once the fast idle has kicked down, my '67 Catalina and '76 LeMans still feel like they pull harder than they should. But, I'm afraid to mess with them too much, because then some other issue will most likely crop up!
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I swear it had an 85mph speedo too - in 1993!

    It did. I remember because I had it pinned when I got snagged by the cops for well over the limit! :surprise:

    Andre,
    My one and only carbed car (79 Continental) idled really fast before it warmed up as well. 30 MPH without touching the pedal was certainly possible.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm too cheap. Plus I enjoy doing it - to a point.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    I remember pegging the needle on my mom's car, too. :shades:

    Actually for the day, that 3.8 seemed like a decent enough performer, or maybe just felt that way after driving the fintail.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    I passed that point when I was in my 20s - the resultant oil spill + oil in my hair and skin was more annoyance than the money saved. And now, I like to see my cars up on a lift so I can give a good inspection, and have someone else check for any immediate needs.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Actually for the day, that 3.8 seemed like a decent enough performer,

    The 3.8 had a decent amount of torque so it was quick out of the gate, however, it ran out of steam quickly. I just looked it up and for a 92 LX (which must be 3.8) a time of 9.2 0-60 and 16.8 quarter. The 93 GL shows 11 and 17.8. IIRC the HP difference betweent the 3.0 and 3.8 wasn't much so that is a surprising difference.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,051
    I think they both had 140 hp, but the 3.8 had a lot more torque. My grandparents had an '89 Taurus LX with the 3.8 and a '94 GL with the 3.0. I had driven them both, and the 3.8 definitely felt a lot quicker. Much nicer car, overall, as well. The '89 only had about 30,000 miles on it when they traded, so it didn't have enough time to cause much trouble, although I think it did stall out once or twice.

    Going back a bit further, it seemed like the older 120 hp Ford 3.8 had decent power, compared to other engines of the time. Before the Taurus, they had an '85 LTD with that engine. When I had my learner's permit, I logged a lot of driving time in it. It was definitely quicker than my '80 Malibu, which had a Chevy 3.8 (229) and 115 hp. And was quicker than the '82 Cutlass Supreme I had, which had a Buick 3.8 (231) and 110 hp.

    I think the Buick engine had 190 ft-lb of torque, while the Chevy was really low, like 175 ft-lb or so?

    Now, once Buick started fuel injecting their 231, its power really improved. But even then, my Consumer Guide from 1985 tested a Century with the 125 hp 231, and an LTD with the 120 hp 232, and got 0-60 in 11.5 seconds for the Buick, 11.9 for the Ford, so not a huge difference. They also tested a Celebrity with the 112 hp 2.8 (173) and I think got 0-60 in 11.2.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    Sounds like a GM 3.8, both even have an achilles heel.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Your girl friends don't like the smell of gear oil cologne?

    That stuff does stink! :D
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,196
    My wife had a 1991 Mercury Tracer when I met her. The paint didn't hold up well and the rubber door sill trim dry-rotted. I broke down twice behind my house in my old neighborhood and needed to be towed so I could get my car out of the garage it was parked in front of. She traded it with 107K miles for a new 2001 Chevrolet Impala.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    LTS, or base model?

    The odd thing was the base engine was 1.9l, while the LTS got a more modern DOHC 1.8l.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,051
    Wasn't the 1.9 a Ford engine, a holdover from the Escort? I mean, from the Ford-built Escort, not the Escort that Mazda built for them?
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,196
    I think it was the base model as it had plastic wheel covers with these circular openings along the circumference.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yep.

    I really only looked at the DOHC 1.8l models.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    ...this one is a far, far cry from the one we last discussed, but I bet this was a sharp little '76 Vega when new...a GT wagon, 5-speed, with Custom interior option. I would have liked the optional side striping though.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-Chevy-Vega-GT-Wagon-/160968666258?pt=US_Cars- _Trucks&hash=item257a7aec92
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,266
    One "bid" for $850...yeah, right.

    Worthless in that condition? Maybe $250 for bits and pieces.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,830
    The only Taurii we have ever had were SHO's, so this is all new to me. :P
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    That eBay ad has 1,815 hits as of this moment, pretty amazing.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,108
    That eBay ad has 1,815 hits as of this moment, pretty amazing.

    1800 of those hits are from Edmunds forums users and lurkers, the other 15 from people who might be interested in it :P

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg, 1993 Honda Accord EXR (my 33rd car).

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,956
    A few oddballs this evening - 70s Datsun extended cab pickup, early R107 450SL - probably 1972-73, what I think was an early Viper - no side windows - just these clip on looking, covers, VW Phaeton, 90s Alfa Spider with a flush rear end.

    And speaking of Vega wagons, about 10 years ago, I spotted this "Nomad" waiting to be discovered and saved:

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  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,228
    edited February 2013
    Interesting! Thanks.
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