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Honda Pilot Maintenance and Repair

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  • prithisprithis Posts: 13
    I just purchased a brand new 2008 Pilot last week. I re-fuelled it yesterday at the pump, and tightened the fuel cap by a couple of clicks. On starting the car, I immediately noticed that a "Check Fuel Cap" message started flashing on the dash. I stopped the car, tightened the fuel cap a few more clicks, and the light went away, but only after I completely took out the key and re-inserted it.

    Is this normal?
  • rond1946rond1946 Posts: 1
    As far as the check engine light on is concerned, in most cases this is due to a missing or loose gas cap
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    Lately I have noticed that when I drive the Pilot (EXL 4WD) a strange noise comes out of the engine compartment?, It kind of sound like another engine sound running next to the motor. It is steady in pitch and usually after it is over 20 mph speed. I checked the transmission (by putting it in N while making the noise) and it did not go away so I assume it is not the transmission. My 4WD light is off also so I don't think that is it, although it feels like it. Any ideas before I take it to the dealer? Thanks.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Could it be a cooling fan for the engine or AC condenser ?

    You could duplicate a fan sound by sitting still with the engine idling and turn on the AC. You will hear the fan come on under the hood. A steady muted roar. Then turn off the AC, and the fan should stop.

    Is that the noise?

    This was just a thought. , but probably not the culprit. Engine Cooling fans tend to be active, more so, when sitting still or moving very slow. They are also generally hard to hear when the car is moving, unless defective.

    Might try turning the AC on and off when the noise starts, although I'm thinking that mostly anything mechanical would not be "steady". It would increase in frequency or speed as the car and/or engine does. Although anything is possible.

    Can you duplicate the noise while sitting still, in neutral, by revving the engine to around 2000 or so?

    Might try looking around under the hood, and under the car, for anything that might be "fluttering" in the wind created by the car moving. A loose piece of molding, insulation, mud flap, plastic shield, plastic grocery bag hitching a ride. etc...

    Kip
  • hackdogghackdogg Posts: 2
    My noise is more a knock or thud coming from the back and Honda is telling me it is fuel. Nothing like a swish or a sound or a fluid, but they insist it is the gas tank.

    Anyone have a similar sound? Was it the gas tank?

    Thanks

    Mike
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    Thanks for the thoughts Kip. I did try the Ac and don't think that is it. Also, I don't think it is the fan since the noise or the sound stops when I stop the car and then comes back on after a short awhile. I did look under the hood very quickly but have not checked it as extensive as you have suggested. I will do that tonight to see if there is anything amiss. The sound is just like the engine sound, only louder, kinda like it is on 4WD mode, only it is not. Thanks again.
  • rodutrodut Posts: 343
    Drive it with the gas tank almost empty (less than 10%). If you still hear the knock, then it's not the gas !
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    I get that sound every once in a while. Seems it is mostly when making an abrupt stop, and more so when making that quick stop headed slightly up hill. Because it may "bump" more than once, I'm pretty sure it is indeed fuel forced against the front then up to the ceiling of the tank. Been doing it since new in January of 03.

    There have been many post concerning it in these Pilot forums. Also, every once in a while, I get a sickening sweet smell when the car starts after sitting for several hours. Smells somewhat like Anti-Freeze. As my heater fan runs anytime the switch is on, I'm thinking I'm actually dragging some of the start up exhaust into the car, if a light breeze is aimed just right.

    Kip
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    I got the 08 VP 4x4 in May-01 ... which is about 3 weeks now.

    The thing I don't feel right is the fabric driver seat (gray interior). My right hip bone seems feeling the problem of something like the cushioning down under isn't padded enough. It is not pain but feel of the pressure point there instead of my hip weight spreading evenly throughout the whole seat. I now started having consistent shoulder pain for past week or so and don't know whether it is related, reflected from the hip up due to seating position not square.

    I know it is not my own hip problem because I traded in 07 Odyssey and that driver seat is pretty comfy, no such problem.

    Wonder whether anyone has same problem?
  • mike274mike274 Posts: 35
    Hello
    I picked up my pilot a week ago and notices that there is rust between the tires and breaks. Anyone notice this?

    Thanks,
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,990
    An upholstery shop can rebuild the seat; add more foam, etc. Might be worth checking into or at least try some sort of pad on the seat cushion to see if that helps.

    Sometimes seats aren't lined up well with the pedals and I've heard people complain about aches from that situation once in a while. No sure how you'd check that or adjust it - someone who does a lot of auto upholstery probably has seen it all.

    If the seat angle is off, I wonder if you could take a long ride using the cruise control so you can move your feet around, and see if the pain isn't as noticeable.

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    If you are speaking of the light film of rust that appears on the rotors AFTER SITTING OVER NIGHT, that is not uncommon.

    The rotor sits just behind the wheel. They are round and flat like a DVD and will be shinny after driving a short distance. They can be seen through the wheel spokes. You may also notice a slight scraping sound when applying the brakes lightly, first thing. That is the brake calipers scraping the rust off.

    Kip
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    Steve

    Thanks.

    The Pilot is just 3 weeks old and seat problems, if dealer finds it is true (replicate it), should be covered under warranty. I plan to give the car to dealer a couple of day and let the decision maker drives it home/work to see the problem.
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    Update - I took the Pilot to the dealer. It turns out that the front left ball bearing was bad. The dealer said 18k miles was too soon for something like that to happen but for some reason that was it..
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Glad they were able to find and fix the problem so quickly. :)
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    Thanks, me too! Do you happen to know if replacing the ball bearing would require a realignment on the car or not? I think it is pulling to the right more than the normal tolerance since I took it back from the dealer but am not sure.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Would think they would have checked the alignment after the replacement. But it can't hurt to let them check it out!

    Kip
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    Once they touched the wheel(s), they have to take care of it free if you found the alignment is off. It is possible they messed the alignment during procedure. If they won't do it free then complain to the Honda regional office. The service manager needs to respond to you due to pressure from Honda customer service. The key point is "Did the repair job involve the wheel?", which in your case, it is.
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    thank you both. They are closed today. I'll give the service advisor a call tomorrow.
  • rodutrodut Posts: 343
    Kipk, do you see an obvious difference between the front rotors and the rear rotors ? I am asking because after 600 miles (since brand new) the rear rotors still are not perfectly clean (like a mirror). The front rotors were perfectly clean after the 1st day !

    It looks like the rear brake pads barely touch the rear rotors, like 99% of the braking would be done by the front brakes.

    Did somebody else had the REAR brake rotors not perfectly clean after 600 miles ???

    Thanks
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Rodut,

    A higher % of the braking is done by the front brakes. If your car goes for a while without a bath, you can see more of that reddish-gray brake dust accumulated on the front wheels than the rear ones. There is "valving" in the brake system to deal with all that.

    I'm pretty sure the brake shoes actually drag on the rotors a tiny amount, even when the brakes are not being applied. (for what that's worth) Also believe there is no adjustment for the brakes, as in days of yore. All that is built in these days.

    Just looked at mine, and they appear to be the same degree of clean. But mine have about 30K miles on them. :)

    Kip
  • carat414carat414 Posts: 2
    My son accidently put 14 gallons of e-85 in my 2005 Honda Pilot. I called the dealership and was told that it shouldn't cause any major issues that I should drive it out as soon as possible and replace it with high grade gas when I get to a half a tank.
    This morning on the way to work my VTM-4 light and the engine light both came on. I don't hear any difference in the motor sound or in performance.

    Any suggestions?????
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    E-85 will do that to an engine not calibrated for flexible fuel. But if you run it out and put regular gas back in from now off, those lights should eventually go off on their own, although it may take a while.
  • carat414carat414 Posts: 2
    Thank you. It's a mistake that I will never let happen again.

    It really freaked me out driving on the freeway and suddenly having all the lights start glowing in my face.
  • scooter28scooter28 Posts: 1
    I have a 2003 Honda Pilot with 66,000 miles on it. I was having the same problem. I took the vehicle in to the dealer and found out that I had a bad EGR valve. Once it was replaced, the problem was fixed. I also read online that this can also be caused by running the car on too many short trips which doesn't allow the engine to fully warm up. This same website also indicated that if you don't change the oil at the routine scheduled times this can also occur. So try longer trips and making sure to change the oil as scheduled. If that doesn't work you may want to have your EGR valve checked out. Hope this helps.
  • piglet3piglet3 Posts: 1
    Looking to purchase 07 Pilot ex-l with 28k Certified to4/48k, powertrain is supposedly covered 7/100k. May not have enought $$ to buy extended warranty.
    Does anyone know if there are "bad" repairs to watch out for in this car? ie; alternators, a/c, heaters, sunroof motors, power seat motors, etc that honda has problems with?
    piglet10
  • My 2007 4wd Pilot has about 29K miles, and I'm wondering what we'll need to do at 30K. I can't find any list of recommended service in the manual, and I've read that you should just do things as the MM tells you to. However, I'll be on a roadtrip at roughly the time that I hit 30K, and worry about whether I should be proactive to get the work done. My dealer offers a 30K maintenance package, but charges almost $500, which seems like a bit of a rip-off. Can anyone tell me what I need to have done at 30K? Thanks!
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    With your Pilot, the 30000 mile number does not really mean much. It all depends on your oil life, since the MM tells you about the other stuff at the same time that you reach the 15% oil life. So see where your oil life stands now and based on the length of the trip you will be taking, you should be able to tell if you can make the trip and be back before you get the"wrench" light! At that point I think you would be looking at the rear differential oil ($79 at my dealer), oil and filter ($35), rotate and balance tires ($35), air filter and the cabin filter ($99 at my dealer). Those are what I can think of, depending on the wear of your car, the dealer may suggest other things, if you or someone you know is handy, the filters can be changed by yourself and Costco charges $3.50 per tire for balance and rotate. so those items together may save you a little.
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    I just had it done at the dealer for $430. They changed the oil, diff fluid, air cabin filter, rotated the tires, and the usual check everything. I found a local place that would do everything for about $350 so you can definitely save some money if you want. I generally perform all my service at the dealer until the warranty runs out so if anything happens I hopefully don't have to argue as much!

    In this case it was a good thing since they found a leaking strut and changed it under warranty, which was nice.

    tom
  • hackdogghackdogg Posts: 2
    Did you have the same thing? If so, what did they say it was? Thet said it would only do it between 3/4 & 1/2 tank. I heard the noise 20 miles into a full tank but the dealer tells me every Pilot makes the noise. This is my only vehical so it is a pain to keep bringing it back to the dealer when it seems like they only want to point to the service notice from 2002.
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