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Chrysler Crossfire

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  • our Crossfire, I found a nail in the tread of one of the front tires. I took it to Tire Pros (about 2 minutes away) to remove and repair. I also asked them to check the other tires to make sure there were no other nails.

    They removed the nail that had punctured the tire and repaired it. They also informed me that there were 2 other nails in the back tires that had not punctured.

    I am wondering if someone hates the Crossfire (we haven't had this problem with our 300M's, so it seems to be aimed at the product) or if the tires have some strange magnetism. Or maybe I got the car in that condition (it was a demo with 5,800 miles).

    On the bright side, Tire Pros did not charge me for the repair/inspection...
  • environpenvironp Posts: 1
    While I like the way this car handles I wonder about the placement of the cup holder. On the 6-speed manual I would think I would bump into my morning coffee. I know the Germans don't think we should be drinking coffee and driving - but I do!
  • kusheenkusheen Posts: 28
    Intrepidspirit...be VERY thankful you did not have to replace any tires. Right now, the Pilot Sport S2's (NOT the same as the Pilot Sports) generally are not in stock at dealers, and likely won't be stocked because of their limited use. Dealers will need to order.

    Cheapest I've seen is Tire Rack...$218 shipped each for the fronts, mid $300's each for the rears.

    Also, if I were you I'd change out that repaired tire. The tires lose their speed rating if repaired.

    Re the cupholders...yup, dumb place for a cup holder, really is NO good place for one in the car. If the cupholder position is on your A list of features you need in a car, then pass this one by.

    Of course, for such things as performance, handling, style, build quality, warranty,it's pretty darned nice. But really crappy cupholder.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Jealousy is hardly the word. Top Gear (and the reviewer in particular) has reviewed seemingly more top-end world cars than anyone else. That guy owns a F355, SL55, etc. And the Crossfire will get compared (on that show) to the best cars in the world... not in the U.S. Therefore I can see why some would have issues with the Crossfire. Here, dealers still are trying to play the dealer markup game. A dealer-marked up Crossfire versus a near-invoice Mazda RX-8? It's not even a contest.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    Well, I see that the DC initial pricing on the SRT-6 is probably going to put me in the mindframe of getting an 04 Vette instead. $46K for the coupe is just a little much. An 04 Vette, towards end-of-production-year closeout with discounts should run about $40K -since Kerbeck has 'em listed that way today. Even an 05, if you could get one, would probably be close to $46K. $10K just to up the hp to 330, and to add a permanent spoiler?? Gulp. [And I actually liked the powered spoiler better than the way the permanent one looks.]
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    bigmike5-

    I did a double gulp when I saw those prices. Collectors will probably buy them and cross their fingers that they will appreciate like the Vettes.

    Speaking of Vettes, do you know anything about Kerbeck? HOW does he manage to get all those Corvettes? He has more NEW Corvettes than ALL the Chevy dealers in the USA put together? Does he have GM connections?

    fastdriver
  • kusheenkusheen Posts: 28
    While Vettes hold their value reasonably well (but not as well as a benz or M3 BMW), I'm pretty sure their values don't appreciate, and are prone to depreciation of value like any other car. There are too many of them, and they all look alike. A great performance car, but certainly not a collectible.

    Re the Crossfire pricing. I agree, way too high, Chrysler STILL doesn't get it. Heck, for $40K the Lotus Elise can be had, which frankly is a superior sports car to the Vette or Porsche Boxster.

    As a current Xfire owner, my bigger concern is the lower priced Xfire. Doesn't make any difference that the heated seats and a few other gadgets will be gone, visually they will be identical to the current car, and performance wise the same.

    Current owners took a bullet for Chrysler.

    I've got a deposit on an Elise, should be here in December/early 2005. Can't wait. Was going to keep the Xfire until then, but I think I'm going to try to unload it now, take my losses, before the watered down one comes out and drives my residual down even further.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    Kerbeck is the #1 Vette dealer in the US according to letters from GM that are shown on their web site. I don't know anything about them other than they are always the first ad in the section of Autoweek dealing with cars for sale, their pitch ladies look really foxy, and their advertised prices are lower than anything else I have seen, and they are only a short one-way flight away from where I live. Course I would use their ads to see what my local guy could do first on a deal, since all the servicing would be done locally. I would like to see the gussied up Crossfire SRT-6 though before jumping.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    Tom-- You've had your white Xfire for about a year now, how about a synopsis of your year with the car? Are you out there? Are you going to the Cruise again this year?
  • I took my Crossfire in to the 5* dealer last Thursday for some items that needed attention. I got some all too familiar Chrysler 5* dealer service. The car was brought in at noon and promised for 5 P.M. on Friday. There were 8 items to address as follows:

    1. Compound or glue stain on crossbar behind the seats.
    2. Water-stained headliner.
    3. Telescoping steering wheel does not lock solidly in place.
    4. No licence plate holder or holes on front of vehicle (manditory in California).
    5. Hesitation on accelerator (compared to my 300M).
    6. Passenger door does not close properly -- sometimes the window gets caught on the rubber seal (sometimes the door even closes with a gap --the window being outside the rubber seal).
    7. The radio display can't be read in the daytime.
    8. The exterior decorative vent on the driver's side has partially come loose from vehicle.

    I got the free rental car from Thrifty (on the premises). It was a Neon. On the way home, I noticed the gas guage read just under half-full. I called Thrifty when I got home and they said not to worry about it -- just bring it back as is.

    When I went back to get the Crossfire on Friday evening, I returned the rental. They checked it out and then advised me that I hadn't filled it up. I explained what I was told and they said that they needed to put some gas in the car and charge me @ $3/gallon. I advised them I would do it, and since I had driven less than 40 miles in total, I put only $3 of gas in it, which brought it up close to where I remember the gauge was when I got the car. Sheesh!

    I picked up the car and found the results of the service were (in same order as above):

    1. Stain removed.
    2. Stain not removed.
    3. Part on order.
    4. On order.
    5. Got the dreaded "could not duplicate concern". Sound familiar, fastdriver?
    6. Door is aligned properly -- could be cabin pressure causing problem. (LOL)
    7. New radio on order.
    8. New vent on order.

    Bottom line -- 1 1/2 working days -- 1 stain removed. But as usual, they were very cordial (I think this constitutes about 99% of the 5* training).

    I'm just glad I didn't have a drifting/pulling problem with the steering, because after the Thrifty experience and the lack of anything done on the car, I simply could not have tolerated another "could not duplicate problem -- could be due to the crown in the road..."
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    intrepidspirit-

    "5. Got the dreaded "could not duplicate concern". Sound familiar, fastdriver?"

    I'm telling you- they MUST learn that at Chrysler "training" school!!! Doesn't seem to matter if it's "5-STAR" or not! ;-))

    At least you were treated well. That has to count for something. What, I don't know. You have to look on the bright side.

    How did you get a water stained headliner?

    fastdriver
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    Could this give Crossfire some competition?

    http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0403/24/c01-101579.htm

    fastdriver
  • "Got the dreaded "could not duplicate concern". Sound familiar, fastdriver?"

    I thought that might bring back fond memories of your service experiences...LOL!

    The headliner stain is behind the driver's seat. actually there are several 3 to 4 inch by 1/4 inch stains. This appears to be close enough to the top of the hatch opening to have come from a leak there. I got a service record on the car (it was a demo) and it included a seal/stripping replacement, but it didn't say where. It may have been replaced because of water leaks.

    Then again it could have been the passenger door seal/stripping replacement since the door window catches on the stripping, preventing the door from closing properly. Oh, but I forgot, the closing problem was due to cabin pressure...
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    Intrepidspirit-Don't discount the possibility of the mechanic wearing a grungy oil or grease covered hat, and having it rub on the headliner while working on the car or sitting in the seat. I've seen that happen, but at least they usually have an industrial strength de-greaser that gets it out.
  • No, these stains aren't grease smudges. You can tell by their appearance that they are from a thin liquid (I hope it's water!). And they seems very light, like they are showing through from the other side of the headliner...
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    that journalist is such a dweeb.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    ruski-

    Mmm...I THOUGHT he was well-respected. I see his name a lot of places. I'll have to pay more attention to who writes these articles. Sounds like the newer Crossfires are getting nearer in price to the Mercedes! Don't think that will fly.

    BTW- Your poor Merritt Parkway has been inundated with traffic due to I-95 being closed BOTH directions in Bridgeport as a result of a tanker vs car accident. The Northbound lane is now open, but the southbound lane had to be completely knocked down and replaced with a temp bridge until it can be rebuilt which was JUST completed before the heat warped the iron girders.

    No speeding in this area right now.

    fastdriver
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    wow...

    but then, last time I visited CT, even without any accidents traffic was very, very bad. I had to drive from Milford to Guilford and it took me forever to get there.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    One of my car rags--maybe M/T this month had stats on yearly sales of the various sportscars. I was surprised to see that the Crossfire figure was in the 2,000's. Mazda RX-8 for comparison was over 8,000. I have seen some RX-8 but not one Crossfire on the road. No wonder they have started discounting them $5K. My dealer still has the red automatic I drove last June!! Maybe it will go on Premier Night, the 22nd of April. Maybe...just maybe. lol
  • I know what you mean by that I saw the same magazine although I have seen some Crossfires not as many as RX-8, or 350Z yet though. I thought that Chrysler wanted to sell 30K unit on the Crossfire? It doesn't look like it will happen yet unless that add more rebates or that cheaper model comes out in 2005. As for the discounts Crossfire was over price to start out with so no surprise there.
  • im thinking of getting a crossfire. i am pretty much set on it as i have just sold my car. i test drove it and loved it, but the real reason i am getting it is because i got an amazing deal from my dealer here in l.a. they are giving me 17k miles a year, 39 months, and with 3 down i will be paying 299 a month. does that sound like a good deal to you guys?
  • a lease obviously
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    have you seen the nation-wide Crossfire lease ads on TV?

    they feature $299 per month with a lower downpayment. Although I am not sure about how many miles they allow per year. 17K miles is a good amount.
  • have seen those, but it is 299 a month with 12k a year and its about 3k down.
  • If you think you are going to be driving about 17K a year why not buy the car?
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    'cause it sounds like a greatn lease deal ;)
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    nissan350z-

    AND....if it turns out to be a lemon, DC OWNS it and takes the loss!

    fastdriver
  • friends is exactly why. i dont take any lose this way, get a 35k car for the price of a 20k car and loads of miles. if it werent for the miles they are giving me i probably would not be getting it because i drive about 17k a year.
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