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Nissan Quest 2004+

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,297
    "Dealers are charging more for certain models, creating more 'buzz' and leading buyers to spend thousands on purchases.

    The Nissan Quest minivan, for example, is often selling for $500 over its sticker price..."

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  • mlherczegmlherczeg Posts: 2
    Personally...here in British Columbia, Canada, I believe that Toyota's Access Pricing scheme is total way off-base and over priced IMHO. Just by checking the competition...this is obvious to see.

    As a result, I would not purchase a Toyota or Lexus model unless there was some room for negotiation.

    One solution is to boycott these manufacturers to teach them a lesson. Once the inventory levels have reached critical levels...prices will drop dramatically or the manufacture will go out of business. This is just an opinion of mine and will force the hand of all manufacturers in the automobile industry to compete better not only in the technical side of vehicle design, but also on proper pricing structures.

    It is amazing to see how many people just shop and purchase blindly for lot of items, not just vehicles in particular.

    Personally...I shop around to see what is truly the best value for every penny invested ROI (return on investment) Isn't the industry to be consumer driven and not the other-way around.

    Just my two err...one cent worth of input!!!

    thanks Michael.
  • kmeadkmead Posts: 232
    Unless I missed it, but how do you get to the bottom line win? You show the Quest at 5k over the Toyota, and even if Nissan starts to deal, I find it difficult to believe you will be able to get 5K off a new Quest. Unless the thing totally tanks, there is just not going to be enough factory money out there to get that low.

    I agree with many of your points about the Quest over the Sienna in terms of driving dynamics and the general feeling of roominess. The looks department, well in both cases its very subjective, I tend to give the hat to the Quest but my wife likes the Sienna as she says the Quest has a ugly face.

    In any case, could you more clearly delineate the win at the bottom line? Thanks.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    the Quest and the Sienna won't be able to compete once the new Odyssey rolls out in Spring/Summer 2004!
  • For those who are interested in learning more about the Quest, Nissan has the Owner and Nav System manuals posted as PDFs.

    They're at www.nissan-techinfo.com. Navigate to Publications, Owner Manuals.

    Here's a direct link (not sure if it will work):

    http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissan/deptog.asp?dept%5Fid=34
  • My wife and I took delivery of a 3.5SL this morning. Our dealer had 2 of them last night, the Silver Mist (which we bought) and one in Green Tea. Both were SL models.

    I won't detail our transaction because we traded in a leased Altima, but the salesman did say there is about $2000-2500 in wiggle room on the Quest. There was a "Market Adjustment" of $960, but he told me to ignore it because "who pays sticker".

    I picked it up this morning and drove it for about 15 miles. I can report more later, and if anyone has questions, post 'em and I'll try to answer. BTW, it's with my wife at work right now, so all answers will have to come later. :)

    Craig
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    For those who are interested, there is a full-test of the Quest in the September issue of Car and Driver. Its a bit... harsh, in my opinion, but succint and well written, as usual.

    ~alpha
  • Okay, I must really be missing something.
    With similar options, the Sienna seems to
    come in at a higher price, MSRP and dealer
    invoice.

    Are prices different in Cananda?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    What trim lines of the Sienna and Quest are you talking about, and which options?
    ~alpha
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    i think that the Quest is more expensive comparably equipped in the SL trim, but less expensive comparably equipped in SE form. The S, I think is $24K, so it is competitive with base Sienna LEs. The SL, which starts at $27-$28, only has one power door, whereas the Sienna XLE can be had for $28,770 with 2 power doors. The Quest SE is cheaper than the Sienna XLE w/ pkg. 9 by a mile. the Quest SE is: $32K the Sienna XLE with leather package is: $33-34K+. The Wall Street Journal did an article on Friday about minivans- It was pretty interesting.
  • Here are the options I selected:

    Nissan Quest
    =============
    3.5 SE 4dr Minivan (3.5 6cyl 5A)
    National Base Price $32,240
    Optional Equipment total (below) $4,850
    U01 Navigation System info $2,000
    H01 DVD Entertainment System (Dual Screen) info $1,900
    S01 Seat Package info $750
    L92 Floor Mats info $150
    W95 Cargo Cover info $50
    Destination Charge $540
    Total $37,604

    Toyota Sienna
    =============
    XLE Limited 7 Passenger Fwd 4dr Minivan (3.3L 6cyl 5A)
    National Base Price $34,480
    Optional Equipment (see below) $4,096
    HO Limited Package #6 info $3,630
    PC Special Color info $220
    CF Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector info $196
    GV Limited Package #2 info $50
    GU Limited Package #1 info $0
    Destination Charge $510
    Total $39,086

    What am I configuring wrong? The base price
    on Edmonds is higher too.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Sorry. Just went back to Nissan Website and checked. The SL starts at $26,740, not $28K. Here are the options I added on the Quest:
    2004 Nissan Quest 3.5 SL:
    base MSRP for zipcode 45458: $26,740
    Options:
    Trailer Tow Prewiring
    Fold Away Seat package
    3.5 SL Upgrade Package
    (The printout didn't list the prices- I'll get them back here in a few minutes)
    Total Price:
    $28,920
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Here is the pricing for the Sienna and Quest. I priced the both like this: CE vs. 3.5 S, LE vs. 3.5 SL, and XLE vs. 3.5 SE. (The XLE Limited is only built as an AWD model for our area, which is Ohio, so comparing an AWD Sienna vs. a FWD Quest wouldn't be fair, so I checked the most expensive Sienna XLE built for our area, and it was cheaper than the Quest, but was short a few items) So, here goes:
    The options on the 3.5 SL were:
    Base Price: $26,740
    options:
    trailer tow Pre-Wiring $540
    Fold Away Seat Pkg. $350
    3.5 SL upgrade Pkg. $750 (Parking Sonars and a couple more items- I forget.)
    Destination: $540
    Grand MSRP: $28,920
    The Sienna LE 7 Passenger FWD:
    Base Price: $24,260
    Options:
    LE Package 6: Trip Computer/Homelink, Power Right Side sliding door, Rear Seat Audio, JBL Sythesis AM/FM/Cassette/CD with 10 speakers,Special Utlity Pkg., P215/65R16 tires with 16 inch Alloy Wheels, Driver and Front Passenger Side Aribags, Three Row Curtain Airbags
    Pkg. Price: $2,645
    Destination: $510
    Grand MSRP: $27,415
    yes, the Sienna costs less, but the Sienna was a few items short. The parking sonars for instance. Trailer Tow Prewiring too. Both are small items, but I would buy both if possible on the Sienna. So, Price Advantage: Sienna LE Value Advantage: Quest 3.5 SL

    Nissan Quest vs. Toyota Sienna CE FWD, 7 Passenger

    Nissan Quest 3.5 S:
    base Price: $24,240
    Options:
    3.5 S Upgrade Pkg. $700
    Fold Away Seat Pkg. $350
    Trailer Tow Prewiring: $540
    Destination Charge: $540
    Grand MSRP:
    $26,370
    (Sorry for the long post; just wanted to show the price comparison between two vans almost everyone is going to cross-shop.)
    Toyota Sienna CE:
    Base Price: $22,955
    Options:
    CE Pkg. 3: Urethane Steering Wheel, Laminate Green Shade Windshield, Green rear side glass, green rear quarter glass, Green rear glass, Power Mirrors, Cruise Control, CE Fabric Seats/Door Trim, Front passenger seat/3rd row seat back with hooks, roof rack, driver and side passenger airbags, 3 row curtain airbags, VSC with Trac/Brake Assist, Rear Disc Brakes, Windshield Wiper De-icer, Wire harness pkg.,(e/g Room Main) Wire harness pkg., (I/P Wire) Daytime Running Lights. pkg price: $2,145
    Destination: $510
    Grand MSRP: $25,610
    Opinion to this comparison on next post.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The Quest is not likely to sell for retail price in many areas, so the price is negotiable, whereas the Sienna is not. So, it would be easy to chop off maybe $750-$1,000 dollars off the price on a Quest. A price chop of $900 is kinda assumed when the Conclusion is written. OK, back to the final verdict on Price/Value on Sienna CE vs. Quest 3.5 S. Price Advantage: Toyota Sienna CE. Value Advantage: Nissan Quest 3.5 S The Quest was short the parking sonars once again, and was also short a price discount and a trailer towing pre-wire.

    Okay, last one. (i promise!) Nissan Quest 3.5 SE vs. Toyota Sienna XLE
    Toyota Sienna XLE:
    Base Price: $28,260
    Options:
    XLE pkg 16. (I'm not writing everything down, you can check thru the new cars section of edmunds.com., they list all the pkgs. pretty well. i don't want to take up too much room) Pkg. Price: $6,545
    Destination Charge: $510
    Grand MSRP: $35,315

    Nissan Quest 3.5 SE:
    Base MSRP: $32,240
    Options:
    DVD entertainment System: Single Screen: $1500
    Fold Away Seat pkg. $750
    navigation system $2000
    Total MSRP: $37,030
    OK, OK, the price advantage with the Quest's navigation system up against a Sienna without one is not right, but I'll compare both.
    Price advantage w/ NAVI: Sienna XLE
    Price advantage w/o NAVI: Quest 3.5 SE
    Value advantage w/ NAVI: Sienna XLE
    Value Advantage w/o NAVI: Quest 3.5 SE
    To conclude, either van would be a great van to drive, and I would buy both. The Quest has the lower price, but the Sienna offers more flexibility between trim levels. For $28K, I can choose between a loaded Sienna LE or a stripped down XLE. The Quest has a small jump too, but has less options therefore less choices in between trim levels. Some people don't want to spend $28K on a stripped down car, so you buy a fully loaded $27,999 car. So, both vans are great, and you'll make no mistake by buying either- unless all the dealers in your area are charging over sticker for one model and charging a few bucks off sticker for another model. (Quest or Sienna) So Good Luck minivan shopping! Drive both, see which one feels better, and then hunt for the model you want.
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    Both the Sienna and Quest offer some nice features. Toyota has the laser cruise control (who needs it?), front AND rear sonar system, rearview camera, split rear seat, sliding door roll down windows, ++, While the Quest have cornering & puddle lamps, reverse tilt-down mirrors, second row seats fold in floor, dual DVD screens, sky lights, power passenger seat, memory seats, power adjustable pedals, illuminated controls for everything, ++

    It's very hard to decide which one is better. I would like a minivan with everything together!

    Also, there is no cassette player on the Quest, Only CD. I have 100's of cassette recordings, and that is a big problem to me. I could not understand why so many vehicles offer either a cassette player OR CD. Toyota always gives you both, even if you go with 6-disc CD changer, the cassette player remains. Honda, Mazda, and now Nissan plays around with this stuff.

    BTW, I think the last few messages belongs to the "2004 Nissan Quest vs 2004 Toyota Sienna" discussion board.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Sorry. The Quest 3.5 S wasn't short parking sonars and a discount. It was the Sienna CE. Sorry for the typo. By the way- I have 100% CDs, so the CD player isn't a problem. The Big 3 offer both CD and Cassette together, so that wouldn't be a problem if you walked into a Dodge dealer and bought a Caravan.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    You can get a dealer installed Cassette player on the Honda Odyssey EX.
  • gg2k2segg2k2se Posts: 109
    Where's the spare tire on minivans with fold down rear seats?

    I'm just beginning to look for a replacement for my Windstar (it will take something special to make me buy another Ford, lots of problems and service aggravations).

    I own a Maxima and the Quest looks good on paper...I mean web page, but I'll be seriously considering Honda/Toyota also.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    In the Oddy and Quest it is under the floor between second and third rows. This seems like it would be a real "BEAR" to change. I would get the nissan and you have road side assistance. Otherwise with the toyota and honda you have to pay extra for RSA or take out the seats and change it yourself.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    My family owns a 2003 Honda Odyssey EX-L, and while the Odyssey is a great minivan, I have gotta say that the Quest is the best thing on the market, look-wise.

    I was up in Dayton Ohio last weekend. While the family was at Dayton Mall, I went to a nearby NIssan dealer.

    They had ONE Quest, an SL in Tea Green (Green Tea?) NICE NICE NICE.

    Made our Odyssey look downright boring. I am trying my best to get my mom to get a new Quest. It looks really big compared to our Odyssey as well.

    Really like the design of it.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Where's the spare tire on the FWD Toyota Sienna?
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    is under the floor directly below the front passenger seat
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Wouldn't it be just as hard to change the tire in a Sienna as it is in a Quest or Odyssey?
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    they would all be a "bear" I just had no knowledge of where the sienna kept it's tire on fwd. AWD models have run flats. but there is a little horror story about those on the sienna board.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    just took a look under a CE model. Its basically between the front and second row seat on the passenger side and its a (larger) donut.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    interesting how there is all this new 'buzz' in the minivan market and NONE of it is from the domestics.........another market that is going in favor of imports?????
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,297
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    JD Power & Associates (Used Autoshopper Press Release)

    Tell your Windstar/Caravan/Venture driving friends to log on!

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  • artgpoartgpo Posts: 483
    Perhaps there is no "buzz" from the domestic minivan market because there has not been an all new model in how long? Ford and Mercury will be first out of the box with their all new 2004 vans. GM hits the road in 2005 with the all new Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Saturn sport vans. I'll bet the biggest "buzz" of all in '05 will not be those or the made over Honda but will be the new VW Bus.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The VW Microbus. Musta been researching the Quest too much.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,297
    I love the looks of the concept. It's odd though - every discussion that gets started about it dies off from lack of interest.

    My '99 Quest seems to be running good; got new shoes and passed IM today, so it'll be a few more miles before we have to think about a new ride.

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