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Nissan Quest 2004+

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    Actually JD Power has long term reliability ratings too, and we have many of them on the vehicle pages. There's little data available for a new vehicle of course, but we have various Quest ratings going back 5 years from JD Power:

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  • nofeernofeer Posts: 380
    again the options list and packages for the sienna are confusing to the point consumers have complained and it messes up the buying experience, i believe they have had enough neg comments that toyota will change the packages to make them simpler come this fall.
    the quest and sienna are so close but these things stand out
    split 3rd row seat in sienna
    quest has killer style
    quest has to remove the head rests and put them in a bag (yech!!!) sienna clean and neat.
    quest cloth interior looks cheap but i'm going for the leather--???non issue????
    quest rouge and silver is way cool
    quest dual dvd screens (you could probably do this 3rd party)
    quest those skylights are way cool
    sienna has power windows in the slide doors
    quest has far reach for the cd changer
    sienna may be more expensive.
    sienna has more appealing features hid, rear camera front and rear parking sensors.

    waiting for info about the redesigned ody and Consumer reports or other respected mags comparo

    we have to drive both in as close a trim line as we will be purchasing as posssible. hard to do with the quest right now, i'm not purchasing till march 04 so can parkbench quarterbacking till then.
    basically i rate the sienna as my first pick till i can do the above. It is also a toyota which tends to have higher quality acroass the board than others, ody had noise and sliding dooor problems.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    reasons for a few of the issues with quest:

    "quest has to remove the head rests and put them in a bag (yech!!!) sienna clean and neat"

    quest uses NHTSA approved head restraints, as does odyssey. siena's "in-seat" headrests are not approved, but are allowed.

    "sienna has power windows in the slide doors"

    the doors are smaller, with 6" less space when fully opened. the longer doors in the quest mean that the windows are too long to operate in any fashion. you give a little, you get a little, etc...
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    When I got my Quest back in Dec. '98 my salesperson let me look through his big (400+ pages?) training book that compared the Quest to every other minivan out there. For every argument a customer could come up with, the book had a ready rebuttal.

    You have a copy of that book too, right?

    :-)

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  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    actually, i dont. these are things ive learned for being in the car business for 4 years. i do my research.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    What did the book say about it's small size, no power doors, non-fold flat seats, and no price advantage over competitors that did have those options? (Ford Windstar SE and Honda Odyssey EX had all of the above equipment- well, the Windstar SE didn't have the fold flat seats, but the Odyssey EX did.) Someone who has the book explain what the argument was for those factors that add up when we all go minivan shopping?
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i wasnt with nissan then, so i dont know, but those dont matter anymore, since the quest isnt small, has power doors, fold flat seats (all), and competitively priced.
  • After bowke28 pointed out the mid position on the 2nd row seats, we took all the kids and had them pile into a Quest, then immediately took them to pile into a Sienna. Kids agree the Quest is easier to get in and out of and has more room.

    We want the S model as we don't want power doors. Going to get the S upgrade package as well. With the rear sonar my wife might actually try to parallel park sometime!

    Does anyone know, can we get the roof rack as a dealer installed option? It is not available as a factory option. The dealer we're talking too doesn't know, says it is too new. Would like the SE-stype roof rack with the cross bars.

    As much luxury as they pile into these vans they are still primarily people and stuff haulers. Doesn't make sense not to have a roof rack.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    Some of us preferred the small size of the last version Quest (although that didn't translate to a small turning circle). I really doubt that the new one would fit in my garage, unless I disappear some shelving.

    The old sliders are lightweight and don't need no stinking power (I think that's a direct quote from the '99 book <g>).

    A big deal was made over the old track system and the 42 (?) different, if not flat, seat arrangements you could come up with. That's actually been pretty handy for us.

    Got lemons, make lemonade.

    Jimincalif, it's probably too soon for Yak or Thule to have come up with clips for their systems yet, but you may want to look at their aftermarket racks. Check Roof/Bike Racks and Cargo Carriers (OEM, Thule, Yakima) for links.

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  • Where did you get this information about the headrests "quest uses NHTSA approved head restraints, as does odyssey. siena's "in-seat" headrests are not approved, but are allowed."?
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    the size and shape of the head RESTRAINTS in the quest make them an actual safety device, per NHTSA. the head RESTS in the siena are too small for the NHTSA to consider safety devices. this was in the training material for the odyssey as well as the new quest.

    another point on these: have you tried to raise the head rests in the siena to operable height? you cant see out the back window if you raise them.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    Front head restraints are required safety devices in the US and the Sienna head "rests" qualify as "extensions of the vehicle&#146;s seats that limit head movement during a rear-impact crash, thus, reducing the probability of neck injury."

     (link)

    Most head restraints move up and down. Better ones adjust fore and aft. The safest ones are dynamic - they automatically adjust when you get rear-ended. Which type does the new Quest have?

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  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    the dynamic ones...all 7. issue is: the dynamic ones have to be a certain size and shape, therefore making it difficult to keep from having to remove them for seat operation. i didnt mean the siena DOESNT have the proper head restraints...they do, just not in the rear seat. an adult has to raise the headrests in the rear about 6" to be at the proper height. this wipes out rear visibility for the driver....

    those of you considering the siena...sit in the 3rd row, and put the headrest up to where you are comfortable. then sit in the drivers seat and look in the rear-view. it will blow you away how little you can see.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    That's good. There are no specific size and strength requirements for the rear head restraints, so it's nice to see Nissan go beyond the minimum requirements.

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  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i agree...just wish we could have our cake and eat it too...lol.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I always thought the track system was a little hard to operate- take away almost all the carpeting and then slide the seat all the way up. At least you still had the seat with you at all times, unlike a dodge caravan driver who may not have his seat at all times. Also, i kinda wish that all vans could just be a little smaller- Mazda MPV size. the reason i parked an odyssey in my garage is because my wife didn't have faith in the Mazda brand, after our first MPV broke down 24/7.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    fortunately, quest buyers dont have to rely on ford enginuity anymore!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    Hey, the old Quest/Villagers always relied on Nissan engines!

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  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    only after '97...before that, many had the old ford 3.0L. wait...not old...they still use it...lol.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    You need a better book. The Quest/Villager in '93 (introduction year) had the Nissan VG30E engine that was adopted from the Maxima. Had a small problem with the manifold bolts.

    Then in '99, the year Nissan made the Quest/Villager a bit bigger and added the second slider, the hp was upped a bit. Still the same basic engine though. The engine and tranny were shipped to Ohio for assembly from Japan, although I heard reports that the drivetrains were later made in the States.

    You're just making this stuff up as you go along, right? :-)

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  • raul4raul4 Posts: 95
    I love minivans because for an old guy like me they are easy to get in and get out of or putting it another way to ingress and egress lol. The 2004 Quest is a really beautiful vehicle but there are two things that bother me. It's the grill and how difficult it must be to keep it clean of bugs or even clean at all. The other thing is the ignition; looks like an unfinished piece of metal that was just put there without any thought of making it look, well, finished. Yeah, I know these are little things but, paraphrasing a saying, it's the little things that count! Anyway, my two cents worth.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    my mistake...no, im not making it up...i made an assumption about the 3 liter in '93, that it was the ford version, since they dropped it in everything at least once...lol.

    raul4...the metal ignition is by design. ever notice that imports use a metal ignition and domestics "finish" it? the previous generation explorers were the worst. the plastic "finishing" piece would get loose, and be difficult to start, since the base metal ignition was underneath. also, why would you want plastic over it just to get scratched up by your key???

    i cant comment about the grill, because i haven't taken a hose to one yet, but none of my 5 quest buyers have complained to date.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    What did the book say about the poor crash scores from the IIHS?
  • dogmom2dogmom2 Posts: 44
    Quest 2004?
  • I don't think the new Quest is selling well. Already, my local Nissan dealer has 7 on the lot and is advertising $1500 off all Quests. Local Toyota dealer has no Sienna's on lot and Honda dealer has only 3 Odysseys. Not crazy about the center guages but I am hoping to get a Quest for close to invoice. Odyssey is very nice but will seem dated in a couple years and I can't wait for 2005 redesign. Sienna is ugly with complex option packages that can result in an LE with non-alloy wheels, rear drum brakes, and $600 running boards, very dumb.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    what part of the country do you live in? we havent discounted a nickel off a quest yet, and we've delivered 14 of them so far.
  • rjsmomrjsmom Posts: 8
    Hello to all who are considering the 2004 Nissan Quest. I posted on the other message board, "2004 Nissan Quest vs 2004 Toyota Sienna" about my family's experience and forgot to mention one thing that bothered us about the car because I just noticed it "again" on a pix on Ebay. While driving the car, I kept looking in my rear view mirror as I always do while driving and noticed the roof console appeared in the top of the mirror which I considered an obstacle from having full view. The salesman tried to adjust it so that I wouldn't see it but no matter what it was still viewable.

    The car drives like a dream as I've stated earlier. I hope Nissan works out the kinks in the product, i.e. the cheapy interior and rear view mirror, because it's a nice minivan.
  • This is in southern NH, about 40 miles from Boston.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    im in louisville, KY...we have had more than 25 in stock, and just now delivered our 15th at sticker price. i just dont understand how they are being given away like that already...
  • thequestthequest Posts: 11
    That must be something that is driver dependent. I bought the SE around the first of Aug. and obstacles to the rear view never came up for me or my wife.
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