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Honda Extended Warranties Pricing and Info

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  • fm1381fm1381 Posts: 5
    Thanks for all the helpful information. What kind of sucks about the EW for CPO Honda vehicles is that the EW must be purchased at the time of the vehicle sale. If you try to purchase it afterwards or from another dealer after you drove your car off the lot Honda will reject the application. It states this on their website and I also called another Honda dealer. I think the price might be higher
    because of my location--everything is more expensive in NY.

    "Plans and Eligibility
    Honda Certified Used Cars qualify for Honda Care Certified Additional Coverage, up to 7 years/100,000 miles from the original in-service date.

    Honda Care Certified Additional Coverage contracts must be purchased at the time you purchase or lease your used vehicle. Ask your Honda dealer for details."

    http://automobiles.honda.com/certified-used/honda-care.aspx
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    edited March 2010
    I agree, it sucks!

    It appears that we not only have to deal on the car, but also the EW before signing the papers and consummating the deal. .

    However, "Honda Care Certified Additional Coverage contracts must be purchased at the time you purchase or lease your used vehicle."

    It doesn't say the EW has to be purchased from the same dealer as the vehicle purchase. There may be a loop hole where you can purchase the EW from another dealer before you drive the car off the lot.

    Something else that still concerns me is: "up to 7 years/100,000 miles from the original in-service date." I would make sure the card you get will show an expiration date, in your case, of 5 years or 60K miles from the date and miles you purchase the vehicle. Rather than from the original date of the car first being put "in-service" by the former owner. A representative at Honda Care can tell you that!

    If you have to deal on the EW, call another dealer and find out their price for the EW on the model car you ar buying, if you were buying the car at their dealership. Then tell your dealer you will pay that price or the whole deal is void. Keep in mind the "Finance Manager" earns his commissions on EWs, Selected accessories, and financing.

    Kip
  • ksibleyksibley Posts: 3
    edited March 2010
    We are purchasing a used 07 Pilot, 32k miles, the truck is certified Honda, comes with 1yr/12k bumper to bumber and 100k mile powertrain. They have offered me additonal "wrap around coverage" from Honda Care for an additon 995+ tax that will cover the car bumper to bumper.
    Does this price sound right? Do you think it is negotiable?
  • denver5357denver5357 Posts: 319
    Update ... after the dealer didn't call back as promised, I called three days later and left a message. A week passed and I finally got a return call yesterday. "Your extended warranty info should be in the system at HondaCare in a week or so."

    No explanation of why, after buying the Pilot on Dec. 31 and the HC the same day, that it has taken until March 2 to get the info to Honda.

    On the other hand, if the HC person was right about the warranty not starting until Honda has dealer info in its system, did I just gain two months on the warranty?
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    On the other hand, if the HC person was right about the warranty not starting until Honda has dealer info in its system, did I just gain two months on the warranty?

    If your pilot was purchased new, then the warranty begins at the time the vehicle was entered into service. So no, you would not gain two months on the warranty.
  • Your HC warranty will go back to when you bought the car. I shopped around to get the best price on my 2010 Pilot and got the warranty three days after the vehicle purchase. When I rec'd the warranty paperwork, the date purchased was different from the start date of the warranty (which was the vehicle purchase date). If it wasn't, everyone would wait to buy the warranty to "buy" more time.
  • crvdude1crvdude1 Posts: 47
    accordexl, over aggressive is the right word. The finance manger made me looked like a criminal buying 'stolen' goods from another honda dealers in front of my family. He offered me $100 off the 7yr/80 HC for $1,450. I did my homework and got the HC deal from CollegeHills for $775. Called and paid Kara @ CollegeHills couple days after getting the new V. I received the Official HC package last night (2 wks from signing up for HC). Everything is authentic. Everybody should shop around. A few emails and phone calls can save hundreds of dollars for other goodies.

    The prices of HC for V @ CollegeHills are:

    6yr/80m $725
    7yr/80m $775
    8yr/100m $1,045

    Cheers!
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Expect all prices offered at a dealer to be negotiable!

    What is the time frame and mileage limits on the "Wrap Around" they offered?

    Kip
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    "The prices of HC for V CollegeHills are:6yr/80m $725, 7yr/80m $775
    8yr/100m $1,045 "


    What is the deductible on these?

    Thanks,
    Kip
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    Something else that still concerns me is: "up to 7 years/100,000 miles from the original in-service date." I would make sure the card you get will show an expiration date, in your case, of 5 years or 60K miles from the date and miles you purchase the vehicle. Rather than from the original date of the car first being put "in-service" by the former owner. A representative at Honda Care can tell you that!

    My guess is th "original in-service date" is the first owner not when he purchased it. He is automatically covered by a 1 yr/12k mile warranty because it is a CPO which takes him to 57k miles. Basically he will be covered for only 3k miles.
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    edited March 2010
    My guess is th "original in-service date" is the first owner not when he purchased it. He is automatically covered by a 1 yr/12k mile warranty because it is a CPO which takes him to 57k miles. Basically he will be covered for only 3k miles.

    Instead of guessing, just consult the FAQ on the Certified Used Car web page which says:

    When does coverage for a service contract begin?
    Coverage for a new-vehicle plan begins when the auto is originally put into service and at zero miles. Coverage for a used-vehicle plan begins on the purchase date and at the mileage on the odometer on that date.


    http://automobiles.honda.com/certified-used/honda-care.aspx#

    So he would get 4 year and 48K above the included 1 year, 12K.
  • ksibleyksibley Posts: 3
    We are going over tonight, he just mentioned the wrap around coverage the other night and the cost. I will find out tonight if there are time limits.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    edited March 2010
    From the link above, supplied by jet1000..

    "Plans and Eligibility
    Honda Certified Used Cars qualify for Honda Care Certified Additional Coverage, up to 7 years/100,000 miles from the original in-service date".


    If your car is an '07, it is already 3 years old and 45K miles. Add the 12/12 you get free and the car will be at 4years/ 57K. Seems you would only be getting an additional 3 years/ 47K to equal the 7/100K. You said you already have a 100K drivetrain warranty. So the 5/60 they are wanting to sell you would have to include the free stuff you are already getting. :confuse:

    Therefore the EW they want to sell you for $2300 will basically cover stuff other than the drive train and Cross Country Motor Club.. Seems like an overly expensive deal to me. :sick:

    That is why we need to be very wary from the time we arrive at the dealer.

    Kip
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656

    Seems you would only be getting an additional 3 years/ 47K to equal the 7/100K.


    He's not buying a 7/100K policy from the original service date, so that doesn't apply to him. He's buying a 5 year, 60K from the date he purchases it. Yes, the first year and 12K are duplicated. The last 4 years and 48K miles are not.

    You're trying to use terms from another policy and then you're saying that somehow restricts his coverage which clearly spells out 5 years, 60,000 miles. If it clearly says that, that what he gets. Not 3 years/47K as you're claiming.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    >"Yes, the first year and 12K are duplicated.......You're trying to use terms from another policy and then you're saying that somehow restricts his coverage which clearly spells out 5 years, 60,000 miles. If it clearly says that, that what he gets"

    Where am I trying to use terms from another policy?

    Read what I wrote and you referred too :
    "Seems you would only be getting an additional 3 years/ 47K to equal the 7/100K"

    Notice the word additional and how it is used!

    I will try to explain it more clearly.

    Depending on the original date of "in-Service" by the original owner, If he purchases the 5/60 he is only going to get an additional 3-4 years and 47K-48K miles over and above the 12K he gets free.

    He would not be getting an additional 5 years and 60K miles over and above what comes with the car, in my opinion ! He would, in effect, be either loosing the free 12mo/12K or not getting it with the 5/60. In the latter he would only be getting an additional 4/48 as you have said.
    "Yes, the first year and 12K are duplicated. The last 4 years and 48K miles are not."

    Seems to me that he would be better off with a 48 mo/48K policy that starts when his free stuff is over. But they likely won't do that. As with everything else at a dealership, it is all about how many $$$ they can squeeze out of the customer. If the customer is willing to pay it, they are happy to take it.

    Kip
  • ksibleyksibley Posts: 3
    We bought our pilot Thursday evening, 21,200 for an EX with 30K miles, excellent condition.
    I want to thank you for the advise concerning the warranty, they were offering a "wrap around coverage" which is basically a bumper to bumper for 7 yrs or 100k miles for $995 +tax.And yes it starts from the original in service date in 9/06. I asked if they could discount this and the did knock $200 off, whoopee!!! :) The salesman stated to me that he has never seen this done, I personaly think he is a liar or I am the first to ever try. Regardless we are happy, not happy to have payments again but happy!
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    He would, in effect, be either loosing the free 12mo/12K or not getting it with the 5/60. In the latter he would only be getting an additional 4/48 as you have said.

    It sounds like we're in agreement now. I was only saying that I thought the 3 year, 47K number you used was incorrect. But yes, the first year is mostly duplicated. The part that is not probably duplicated is the roadside assistance benefits. That's the same when you buy a Honda Care for a new vehicles. The first 3 years are duplicated as far as warranty work, but you do get the benefits from day one.
  • crv123crv123 Posts: 31
    Hi All --

    I tried to search this forum and couldn't find what I was looking for, so I apologize in advance if this information is out there.

    I am in the process of negotiating on a 2010 Honda Pilot. I definitely want the extended warranty and I am looking specifically for the extended warranty thorugh HondaCare. I remember a few years back when I got my CRV, that I requested quotes through the internet and the quote I got was SIGNIFICANTLY better than the in person deal they tried to sell me. What I can't remember or find is whether there was a central location from which to request the quote or if I needed to request it directly from different dealers.

    Also, my recollection is that I can buy the extended warranty from any dealer and that my local dealer will have to honor it...but I am hoping that someone can confirm that for me.

    FYI, I am probably looking for 7 yr/100k or something similar...so if anyone can give me a cost range on that, it would be very helpful!!

    Thanks in advance!!
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    What I can't remember or find is whether there was a central location from which to request the quote or if I needed to request it directly from different dealers.

    Also, my recollection is that I can buy the extended warranty from any dealer and that my local dealer will have to honor it...but I am hoping that someone can confirm that for me.


    Yes, you can use your Honda Care at any Honda dealer in the country. They all are issued from the same corporate office and they go into the nationwide database so usually you don't even have to bring your paperwork. The dealer will see the contract that you have when they enter the VIN number in their system

    There is no central place to get a quote. You do have to deal with dealers directly. They are no longer allowed to publish the quotes online. However, you can request a quote via their websites. Below is a list of dealers to get you started. Let us know how you do...

    Saccucci
    http://www.saccuccihondacare.com/
    Bernardi
    http://www.bernardiservicecontracts.com/
    College Hills Honda
    http://www.collegehillshonda.com/hondacare/index.htm
    Hyannis Honda of Hyannis, Massachusetts
    http://www.hyannishondacare.com/
    Curry Honda
    http://www.curryhondacare.com/
  • crv123crv123 Posts: 31
    Thanks!! I will keep you posted!! :)
  • You can google santucci honda and bernardi honda and find pricing, but I have heard and read horror stories. So...when we bought a pilot a few weeks ago here's what we did, we tried negotiating with the dealer we were purchasing the vehicle from and they would not budge with warranty price. I spoke with Honda directly before we purchased to make sure we could buy the warranty after the fact and elsewhere, they said yes (had to be before 6,000 miles). So, when the other dealer we were working with found out they lost our sale on the pilot, and could make a sale on at least the warranty they offered us $200 less on the 8yr/100,000 $0 deduct. honda care warranty for $1290. Not the greatest price, but better than the purchasing dealer and better than being scamed online. Hope this helps - watch out - when in doubt - call the Honda 800# for assistance.
  • crv123crv123 Posts: 31
    Thanks. That is very helpful information. I will add the Honda 800# to my list of important information in my file!! ...but can you elaborate on what you mean by horror stories? I'm not sure what you mean and I am sure it will make me a better consumer...so thanks in advance!! :)
  • mkielmmkielm Posts: 38
    Bought mine from Saccucci (my spelling is correct). They were flawless. There is an issue if you are from CA or FL, but I have never heard a bad word about Saccucci, AND they are the ones putting up the money to fight Honda corporate from prohibiting internet sales of HCEW (after Honda originally encouraged Saccucci to do so). For that reason alone they should earn EVERYONE'S business - sticking up for the consumer (sure they have a dog in the fight since they were making a good amount of money on volume, but they were not screwing over the customer like so many back room "finance" managers ("take a seat in my office")). Why pay a premium for the same product? The horror story is the local dealer telling you its twice as much as it should be, then dropping it by a few hundred bucks after you point out that you saw it advertised for cost (you're still getting screwed, he's just making you feel a little better about it).
    Good luck.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    edited March 2010
    >"The horror story is the local dealer telling you its twice as much as it should be, then dropping it by a few hundred bucks after you point out that you saw it advertised for cost (you're still getting screwed, he's just making you feel a little better about it)."

    Well said!
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    >"they were offering a "wrap around coverage" which is basically a bumper to bumper for 7 yrs or 100k miles for $995 +tax.And yes it starts from the original in service date in 9/06. I asked if they could discount this and the did knock $200 off, whoopee!!!"

    WoW ! Sounds like you got a heck of a great deal. Congratulations ! :shades:

    Kip
  • crv123crv123 Posts: 31
    Ok...thanks for explaining. I definitely want to avoid that!! I will let you know how I do!!
  • Thanks for correcting my spelling....that was important. My point was to just be careful what you purchase from online sales people. Why on earth would their profit margin be little to nothing? A friend had to cancel/dispute the credit card charge because the warranty didn't go through (hence the profit was taking ALL the $) and another waited for paperwork for months. I never said I got the best deal on my warranty, but at least I got a warranty where as others I've known have had a battle. Not looking for one here either friend, just offering crv123 the advice they wanted. You sound like you may work for SANCCUCCI...no?
  • mkielmmkielm Posts: 38
    It's Saccucci and, yes, spelling is important (especially if one is doing a search on the internet).

    No, I live in Richmond, VA, not RI (as is noted in some of my earlier posts), to answer your suspicion.

    There is nothing wrong with valuing purchase at a local dealership over the lowest amount of money (via a reputable internet business - there are numerous one's listed on this forum with no complaints associated with them). It's all what one is comfortable with and willing to spend. Sorry I ruffled your feathers, but, as you note, this forum is for giving advice and past experience, and I was sharing mine.

    As I understand it, Saccucci's profit margin on the actual, individual HCEW was minimal to ZERO. They made all or almost all of their money through "bonuses" for selling such a large number of HCEWs per month (so, yeah, there's another profit component in the EW scheme - when you pay cost as I did you are still paying some profit to dealerships (hold back anyone?). (In fact, when I researched the law and court case on internet sales of HCEW before buying I recall that Saccucci ended up making as much money from these sales in a month, just due to the bonus, as they did on car sales owing to the fact that they are in a small market. Chalk one up for savvy business persons adjusting to technology AND giving the consumer a positive experience on a valuable commodity.) I had a great and flawless experience with Saccucci, but I suspect the same result could have been had with Bernardi or other reputable sellers identified in this forum (It just seems to me that since Saccucci is the one paying its money to fight Honda Corp. in order for these type of sales to continue, they should get some credit and business out of respect).

    It's a shame that more people don't research such decisions fully before purchasing, the internet can be amazing (as well as misleading and a place for fraud).
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656
    A friend had to cancel/dispute the credit card charge because the warranty didn't go through (hence the profit was taking ALL the $) and another waited for paperwork for months.

    Notice that you omit the dealer that your friends dealt with, and you try to connect their experiences to dealers that many people have purchased from online with no problems whatsoever. Where exactly are these horror stories that you've read?

    Honda Care paperwork is processed very quickly from my multiple experiences with online purchases. The online dealers have always been very helpful.
  • mcobramcobra Posts: 4
    I'm planning to buy Honda Pilot EX in orange county soon. I have few questions regarding warranty.
    1. Do I need Extended warranty??
    2. If its needed, buying at dealership is better than online??
    3. Is Honda Care warranty available online for CA residents?
    4. If warranty needed, what is the better price for 8-10year 120k warranty?

    Thank you very much in advance.
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