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Ford Escape Hybrid

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  • hybirdhybird Posts: 2
    I recently was (stranded out of town) due to a failure on the electric motor coolant pump. I was towing a small utility trailer along an old jeep trail, so I was in electric mode most of the time. The dealer service rep said that this had nothing to do with the problem, but I'm not convinced. The rep also said that this problem was on the Ford "hotline, " so it is happening to other vehicles. Anyone else have this problem? If not, be careful if you are off-road!

    Also, a reply to Jim regarding the whine at low speeds. I hear it also. I think that it is nothing to worry about and just noise from the motor/generator spinning. Anyone else?
  • stevewastevewa Posts: 203
    Wix part number is 57203. Purolator part is L15505. Both come with the o-rings. The Purolator is more of a dead ringer for the Motorcraft filter than the Wix is, but the build quality is better on the Wix IMO.

    The guy at the counter is full of it, you really should replace _both_ o-rings at every oil change (the big one on the filter housing and the small one on the drain plug). Eventually the o-ring will stretch enough that you'll have no choice. My dealer is stocking and replacing the o-ring. OTOH, their tech overfilled my oil on this service (I left them with 5 quarts of Mobil 1 5w20 and they just dumped them all in rather than put in the correct 4.5 quarts).
  • stevewastevewa Posts: 203
    There's a rumor about of a TSB on the coolant pump. It has nothing to do with being offroad, it just happens in some vehicles. One owner had it happen in his driveway.
  • cdoldcdold Posts: 34
    "The battery isn't large enough for that to pay off".

    But there are aftermarket kits to add more battery, and the ability to plug in overnight (PHEV). Then it can be useful, although with a price of $10,000 for early adopters, the E-Drive system won't really "pay off" in dollar terms. edrivesystems.com

    I have managed about 8 miles on electric only, but the MPG, which I reset as soon as I got stuck in the traffic, went from 99 back down to 38 within a few miles after the engine started.

    I was spending over $50 per week on gas, and now it's $20 less than once a week, so my cost savings is substantial, and i think it will amortize. That's not the whole point, though, is it? If I wanted savings, I would have purcahsed a used Escape V-6.
  • zx24szqzx24szq Posts: 2
    I pick mine up tomorrow morning...a full week early! (I ordered mine with what I wanted) :P I am like a kid waiting for Christmas! Thank you all for all this interesting information I have been reading while lurking behind the scenes waiting for mine to show up so I can join the club! :shades:
  • Were you able to track down your squeak? I just got an Escape Hybrid about three weeks ago, and it squeaks at about five miles per hour or less after it has either been driven for over an hour or it is hot outside. (Same conditions for you?) It is definitely not a brake squeak. I called my local dealer and they said that they had another one in the shop doing the same thing, but they couldn't figure out what was wrong and the Ford hotline wasn't any help. They said they will end up having to torque everything -- or something like that. I'd prefer them to better isolate the problem before they start torquing stuff, so any insight would be appreciated.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    A reporter is interested in speaking with owners of the Ford Escape hybrid. If you own or lease one and would be interested in speaking with the reporter, please send your name and e-mail address to Pam Krebs, Edmunds.com PR, at pkrebs@edmunds.com.
  • stevewastevewa Posts: 203
    I have not been back to the dealer to have them spend more time on it. Been on the road the past couple of weekends. It's definitely somewhere in the suspension and it changes depending on whether you're coasting, braking or accelerating so something is shifting around. I don't think it's anything hybrid-specific.
  • bart4bart4 Posts: 2
    I have factory leather, nothing special not like a high end BUT it comes along with other options packages, also it come in verrrry limited colors (1), have to check that out. The after market can be done to your liking, level, cost, design etc but it is $$$$. Also check out 05 federal rebates vs 06, may cost you more than its worth. If every thing else is cool go with what you can get and buy your wife a nice leather coat.
  • bart4bart4 Posts: 2
    anyone located hi flow air filters for the Ford hybrid escape yet or any other items that may help further the cause of saving fuel (new chips etc.) or a little extra power, even though it is very good in general use
  • stevewastevewa Posts: 203
    The team that did the Prius+ modification is looking for Escape Hybrids so they can study them with the idea of developing a similar modifiction.

    Given the small production volume don't expect any of the tuners to try to tweak the Escape Hybrid. It's a very different powertrain from the conventional models and the opportunity to mess things up is great. Look at how much longer it took Ford to get the vehicle to production than they planned. Also, note the caution in the owner's manual about using anything but the standard air filter...
  • Can you tell me how long it took you to get yours in? How long ago did you place the order?
  • zx24szqzx24szq Posts: 2
    Hi Kandij,
    I actually got it 6 weeks from the order date which according to what I was quoted was two weeks early. I absolutely love my 2006 it's beautiful and fun to drive. My neighbor calls it my golf cart since I'm so quiet pulling into the driveway... unless of course I've got the radio up hehe. :shades:
  • Hi, I am a newbe at this forum stuff, sorry if I do it wrong.

    I have a 05 hybrid and love it. It has the nav/audiofile option. Has anybody been able to hook a direct line into their nav/audio with Sirius (or XM)?

    Unrelated to above, I am getting a solid 31.5 mpg on the car. You got to drive carefully to get that number though. My leadfoot wife gets only 27.
  • Hi. I'll respond to this question the same way I did on another page.

    I don't have a hybrid yet. I'm driving a 2001 Olds Silhouette mini-van. I started with a K&N high-flow air filter. Then to a free-flow muffler and finally a free-flow cat. Mileage wise, I gained nothing. Well, it did accelerate a little better. I did, however, manage to mess up the emission control computer, which was cured by putting a factory cat back on. Very expensive lesson.

    Today's cars are engineered quite nicely. Outside of breaking some federal laws, there isn't much that can be done to improve mileage.

    Enjoy it as it is. Save yourself lots of money.

    Larry :)
  • I have found a good opportunity for Ford Escape Hybrid Owners to get Ford to listen to their concerns and, at the same time, learn about their cars directly from the guys that built it.

    Ford Escape Hybrid Owners and Hybrid Enthusiasts – Ford Motor Company is please to present a unique opportunity…

    The Ford Escape Hybrid Fuel Economy Experience: Learn to Optimize Your Fuel Economy with the Escape Hybrid Development Team

    The Escape Hybrid development team, designers of the first American-made hybrid SUV, would like to invite you and a guest (and your Escape Hybrid if you own one) to attend an exclusive, invitation-only, limited participation event where you will interact with the people who designed the Escape Hybrid.

    With gas prices skyrocketing, everyone is trying to get the most from a gallon of gas. Now you and a guest can learn how to maximize your fuel economy in a special up-close-and-personal experience with the engineers who created the Escape Hybrid. During this behind-the-scenes three-hour session at Ford Motor Company, you will:

    · Meet with Ford engineers, including Mary Ann Wright, Director of Sustainable Mobility Technologies and Hybrid Programs, to discuss the Escape Hybrid and its fuel economy

    · Attend a classroom presentation with Escape Hybrid engineers, during which you will learn techniques to help maximize your fuel economy as well as participate in a Q&A session with the Escape Hybrid Team of Subject Matter Experts. Many of the techniques you will learn will apply to a conventional vehicle, while others will apply only to Escape Hybrid

    · Experience a short drive in an Escape Hybrid through the Dearborn area with a Ford engineer as your fuel economy coach. You will even have the opportunity to ride in the original fleet of Escape Hybrid development vehicles!

    · While you will be experiencing the drive in an Escape Hybrid, the techniques demonstrated will help anyone maximize their fuel economy while driving any vehicle

    · Get a sneak peek at the new Mercury Mariner Hybrid, as well as Ford’s upcoming family of hybrid vehicles

    · Participate in the future development of Ford hybrid products, by providing feedback to the hybrid engineering team

    · Receive an Escape Hybrid gift bag

    Where: A restricted location in the Ford Motor Company complex, Dearborn, Michigan. Specific location and directions to provided via a confirmation email that will be issued upon event registration.

    When: Saturday, October 8 and Sunday, October 9. There will be 3 sessions per day, each lasting approximately 3 hours with a limited number of participants in each rotation. Slots will be filled on a first-come-first-served basis. Invitations will begin arriving in homes and email boxes in mid-September. There will be a registration phone number included.

    Maximize Your Experience - Travel Planning

    The Escape Hybrid development team looks forward to your visit to Dearborn. Please note that in order to drive during this event you must be 18 or older.

    Detroit Metropolitan Airport (DTW) is the closest airport to Dearborn, MI. The event location is approximately 15 minutes from the airport in Dearborn.

    There are a variety of hotels, restaurants and tourism attractions in and around the Dearborn/Metro Detroit area. Please check www.visitdetroit.com or call 1-800-Detroit for useful travel planning resources.

    A highlight in the Dearborn area is the collection of museums and experiences offered at The Henry Ford, America’s Greatest History Attraction. Witness the celebration of the innovation of manufacturing in America during the Ford Rouge Factory Tour — where history and the future merge. The tour consists of five unique components, including: a Historic Driving Tour, Historic Footage Viewing, Assembly Plant Walking Tour. Also included in the Henry Ford are Greenfield Village, and the Henry Ford Museum. Learn more at www.thehenryford.org.
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    Ford Escape Hybrid Owners and Hybrid Enthusiasts – Ford Motor Company is please to present a unique opportunity…

    The Ford Escape Hybrid Fuel Economy Experience: Learn to Optimize Your Fuel Economy with the Escape Hybrid Development Team

    The Escape Hybrid development team, designers of the first American-made hybrid SUV, would like to invite you and a guest (and your Escape Hybrid if you own one) to attend an exclusive, invitation-only, limited participation event where you will interact with the people who designed the Escape Hybrid.

    With gas prices skyrocketing, everyone is trying to get the most from a gallon of gas. Now you and a guest can learn how to maximize your fuel economy in a special up-close-and-personal experience with the engineers who created the Escape Hybrid. During this behind-the-scenes three-hour session at Ford Motor Company, you will:

    · Meet with Ford engineers, including Mary Ann Wright, Director of Sustainable Mobility Technologies and Hybrid Programs, to discuss the Escape Hybrid and its fuel economy

    · Attend a classroom presentation with Escape Hybrid engineers, during which you will learn techniques to help maximize your fuel economy as well as participate in a Q&A session with the Escape Hybrid Team of Subject Matter Experts. Many of the techniques you will learn will apply to a conventional vehicle, while others will apply only to Escape Hybrid

    · Experience a short drive in an Escape Hybrid through the Dearborn area with a Ford engineer as your fuel economy coach. You will even have the opportunity to ride in the original fleet of Escape Hybrid development vehicles!

    · While you will be experiencing the drive in an Escape Hybrid, the techniques demonstrated will help anyone maximize their fuel economy while driving any vehicle

    · Get a sneak peek at the new Mercury Mariner Hybrid, as well as Ford’s upcoming family of hybrid vehicles

    · Participate in the future development of Ford hybrid products, by providing feedback to the hybrid engineering team

    · Receive an Escape Hybrid gift bag

    Where: A restricted location in the Ford Motor Company complex, Dearborn, Michigan. Specific location and directions to provided via a confirmation email that will be issued upon event registration.

    When: Saturday, October 8 and Sunday, October 9. There will be 3 sessions per day, each lasting approximately 3 hours with a limited number of participants in each rotation. Slots will be filled on a first-come-first-served basis. Invitations will begin arriving in homes and email boxes in mid-September. There will be a registration phone number included.

    Maximize Your Experience - Travel Planning

    The Escape Hybrid development team looks forward to your visit to Dearborn. Please note that in order to drive during this event you must be 18 or older.

    Detroit Metropolitan Airport (DTW) is the closest airport to Dearborn, MI. The event location is appro
  • I seem to be experiencing the same squealing noise.... have you gained much insight into the problem since you posted? (I've scanned posts but there does not seems to be a definitive response that I've noted).
    I've had my Escape Hybrid for one month as of August 30 and have experienced a high pitched squeal on two occasions, both times as I was returning home after extensive highway driving (1.5 hours and 5 hours); the squealing occurred as I was travelling more slowly (approximately 40-50km/hr) in a residential neighbourhood and was not breaking. It would seem to be heat-related and not associated with the act of braking.
  • doccdocc Posts: 24
    I have come to think it is a noise made by the electric motor or something in the electrical circuit for the motor. It is there all the time when the engine is off and the car is in electric mode. I think it is also present when the engine is off and the motor is being run in reverse for charging, but I'm not positive.

    It is annoying, but tolerable.

    Jim
  • Purchased a 2006 F Escape Hybrid on 9/2, and I started hearing the squeak on 9/5. :( It comes and goes, but is between 1-25 miles per hour, on electric or not. It starts out slow and speeds up; sounds like an axle issue. Has anyone had a dealer try to fix the squeak? JD
  • just curious...
  • Hi. My question is simple. Like me.

    I've read that the Atkinson cycle engine is "unrefined" at higher speeds. To me that means noisy. I don't like noisy. Can anyone share their opinions about this? How does the Escape hybrid do on the freeway, and is it a good touring vehicle; road noise, engine noise, wind noise etc.

    Thanks.

    Larry
  • doccdocc Posts: 24
    I don't know anything about the Atkinson cycle being "unrefined," but I've put 18,000 miles on my Escape hybrid and that includes a reasonable amount of highway driving. It has seemed just fine, in all respects. It is not noisy at speed and the engine does not rev excessively at constant high speeds.

    The continuous "gearbox" takes a little getting used to at first, because the Atkinson cycle engine will rev a bit all by itself as hills are encountered, even at steady speed. You will notice this if you use the speed control. You soon cease to notice it.

    If you are planning to do mostly high-speed highway driving, I wouldn't recommend the Escape Hybrid or any hybrid, for that matter. Most of the gains from the hybrid design come in driving that includes varying speeds or stop-and-go. I can get 36+ mpg on a long trip on back roads--which is the way I like to travel. If I manage to find an open highway and drive at a steady 80 mph, I'll be lucky to get 25 mpg.

    But the Escape handles all the kinds of driving just fine. The only noise I notice is a slight whine from the electrical components at low speed, mostly when in full electric mode.

    Jim
  • Thank you Jim, that was above and beyond what I expected to receive. My main motivation for all these questions is: I'm looking for the perfect car. I know it doesn't exist, but I keep looking.

    Right now I'm driving a 2001 Olds Silhouette Premier. Nice car; good mileage, considering it's a two ton vehicle, and a decent road car. On our last trip I got between 23 and 29 depending on the conditions i.e. mountain passes, wind etc. But, we're considering a smaller car but one that's higher off the ground for easier entry and exit; I'm 65 with a bad back, my wife 70 with weak leg muscles. Since we do hit the road a couple of times a year, something safe, comfortable and quiet.

    Small 4-banger SUV's are out (save for the Escape hybrid) because the motor gets noisy at higher speeds, and they ride harder. Prefer V-6's. But then there goes the mileage. And, if gas goes to five bucks like I've heard could happen, filling a 25 gallon tank every week or so could get costly.

    So, we may just have to "bite the bullet" and deal with the painful process of crawling into a smaller sedan, which will also raise our choices.

    Thanks again, and I'm sorry for the long response. It sounds like you know your way around cars (I used to), and I appreciate your input.

    Cheers,

    Larry
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,900
    If your 2001 Olds is running good I would keep it. You are not going to find a vehicle that gets any better than the 23-29 MPG that you are getting now, and maintain the easy entry and exit of your mini-van. You are talking of plunking down $30k plus for any kind of new vehicle in that class. You can buy one heck of a lot of $3 per gallon gas with that money dumped into a new vehicle. With all the cheap GM cars being sold your Olds has little value as a trade. If you have a ton of money to spend buy the Lexus RX400h. It should be easy to get in an out of. It will get about the same mileage you are now getting. I know what you are saying about getting in and out of some of these small cars with a bad back. It is painful climbing out from time to time for me also.
  • It's funny you suggested keeping the van. I told my wife that's what we should do, at least until something comes down the pike we can't refuse. It's such a nice car, and I know it won't bring much on resale. I may wait an see if VW puts a diesel in the Passat in the next few years.

    Thanks for your expertise.

    Larry
  • Larry, I have no expertise. But your van sounds like a great car. gagrice was right about the gas mileage and costs. You will probably not do any better buy spending more money. I have looked around extensively for a car that you described and there are very few. The Subuaru Outback, though may be one such car. The non turbo engine gets decent mileage (similar to yours), it is higher than a regular car and it has tons of cargo room. I don't see it as a particularly roomy car to get in and out of though.

    I would spend $100 for 'the works' at the car wash - hand wax, seat cleaner. Or even $250 and get it detailed. They will fix any paint chips and amp up the color. Cars always driver better after going to the car wash :D
  • Truth be told, my van still looks almost new. I take very good care of it. My biggest complaint is getting the tiny swirls out of the finish. It's dark dark blue, almost black, and with the chrome wheels is a head-turner.

    I suppose I'd better quite talking about my Olds in the Ford forum.

    Thanks,

    Larry
  • doccdocc Posts: 24
    I have a 2005, and the rear cargo area has a flimsy cover that slides out of its "mounts" and becomes a mess anytime anything is slid across it. Has anyone found a solution? Is the 2006 cover improved and will it fit?

    Jim
  • stevewastevewa Posts: 203
    My solution was to place the rear cargo cover in my basement :-)
  • doccdocc Posts: 24
    I hear ya. Maybe I should do that and paint the battery cover...
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