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Ford Escape Hybrid

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  • dubowdubow Posts: 1
    So will Ford have to strip down the vehicle to reduce its weight in order to get it to "perform" well as a hybrid?

    Remember that for crash test safety mass matters!
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    I remember reading one of the articles about the hybrid Escape a while back which discussed this. They said something to the affect that the battery array will actually improve crashworthiness. Most vehicles have the spare in the trunk which, in case you didn't know, is a key component in it's rear crash system. It is actually part of the crash structure.

    The battery array in the Escape will be in the rear under the cargo floor and, because of it's size and mass, will help out in a crash more than any temp spare would.

    If you think about it it makes perfect sense. I'm sure we'll see a more solid answer to this question as next July approaches though.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    The vehicle will not be lightened that much by removing items, instead, replace them with lighter, yet stronger materials, such as aluminum. Don't be surprised if there's a few components here and there be interchanged this way.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Latest on the Escape HEV, it'll be built in KC.

    http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=16755&ma- ke_id=trust

    Source: Ford Media
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Here is the Press Kit for the 2005 Escape. All the information pertaining to changes, and such, are listed here.

    http://media.ford.com/products/press_article_display.cfm?article_- id=16802&vehicle_id=1004&make_id=92
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    are they finally going to let the pubic drive this car???
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    At some point, hopefully :-) Look for the end of Summer as some of the previous stories I posted stated.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I drove a Prius last week and really liked it, in fact I was surprised about just how much I liked it, may even consider one.

    It's cool, they are totally silent at low speeds, it feels very luxurious. Plus the Prius has 295 lb-ft of torque at idle, so it steps off smartly.

    Another cool thing? The $2000 tax deduction can amount to $800 if you're in the 40% tax bracket, but more importantly, you don't pay state tax in MD, at least. That's 5%.

    For a $25,000 vehicle, that saves you $1250! If you're in the right tax bracket, you save $2 grand. That might even make prices about the same.

    Depends on where you live, of course, but that's a big deal!

    -juice
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    will Ford's Escape Hybrid be eligible for the soon to be $1500 tax credit?
  • harhirharhir Posts: 29
    Does anybody know if the Hybrid version will be available with 4WD and if it will be rated for towing? I would require about 2000lbs of towing capacity for a small popup trailer.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    it'll have optional AWD. I don't know about towing. Hybrids generally have gobs of torque, but the Prius can't really tow anything with 295 lbs torque. It's just not the type. Maybe the Escape, but I don't know.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    they're trying to iron out all the bugs to avoid recalls coming daily.
  • john1701ajohn1701a Posts: 1,897
    > but the Prius can't really tow anything with 295 lbs torque

    Since a handful of Prius owners have reported towing small utility trailers using the less powerful version (258 lbs torque), "can't really" is not an accurate description. "should not" is probably the phrase you were looking for.

    JOHN
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    you got me- I didn't know that the Prius could actually tow, but in any case, people shouldn't be slapping on a trailer the size of the car onto the Prius. It's like towing an Excursion with an Excursion- you shouldn't do it. The Excursion would be safer towing a Prius, or an Explorer.
  • john1701ajohn1701a Posts: 1,897
    I'm willing to admit that towing isn't something to be endorsed as a Prius ability. We'll save that for the upcoming bigger hybrids.

    The concern actually revolves around the cooling aspect. Even though the battery-pack, inverter, and electric-motor can handle the power requirements just fine, it's what to do with the heat after pulling the load for too long. In fact, that was a reason Ford sighted as causing one of the delays for the Escape-Hybrid debut. They wanted to insure cooling needs had been properly handled. Those electric components get very hot when fully utilized.

    JOHN
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Some people just want to pull a little utility trailer or a 1000 lb pop up camper. Not everyone needs 4 tons towing capacity. Myself included.

    -juice
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Don't forget carguy, BMW is on the 15th & 16th recall on their X-5 now. You just don't hear about it because it's not "cool" to bash a foreign car maker in America - especially the sacred Bavarians. Recalls happen, and they're actually a good thing. Mitsubishi was indicted last year for ignoring safety concerns on many of their models. It's customary for Honda to disclaim any potential defects in their cars, like Accord transmissions recently. At least, Ford steps up! So does BMW.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I agree, a recall admits guilt, better than denial.

    -juice
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    did a recall on the 99-2000 Odyssey. They sent me a letter saying my 2002's timing belt could snap because of a slight design problem and they fixed it for free. Honda just doesn't go public with this kind of stuff. Toyota had a recall on the Sienna a few months back. Nobody's Perfect.
  • I agree with juice (as usual), that a recall admits a problem and is better than denial. But I also seem to remember a few class action suits and a bunch of people dieing before Ford pulled the trigger on recalls in the past (ignition, tires, gas tank explosions, etc, etc). So I'm not so quick to say Ford steps up, at least not willingly, or at least not always.

    But you guys are right, nobody is perfect in this regard. I'm still interested in the Escape Hybrid. We'll see.
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