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BMW European Delivery

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  • Looking at the part numbers, I don't know if buying the alarm in Germany is a good idea. In the US, we have an alarm for sedan/coupe/touring and an alarm for the convertible. In Germany, the touring has a different alarm. The numbers don't remotely match.

    Also, I would have to agree with Platypus. The euro is strong. It does not make much sense to buy something that can be purchased in the U.S.

    I purchased wheel locks, luggage net, CD changer and a key ring. Even if purchased now, they would still be cheaper. The key ring that I have is not available in the U.S., so it made sense to purchase it. My CD changer is model 65 12 6 913 388. I go it for 335 euro (I did not pay the 17.5% tax). Even at 1 dollar equal to 1 Euro, it was a steal compared to BMW CD changer prices. It is not advised to buy electronic items unless you have done your homework.
  • Yes, I agree with all that was said! I only plan on picking up a few items that make sense...I just posted the whole list as someone asked for it...as far as airfare, found the flight on Orbitz. It is a Lufthansa flight (united partner) The same flight is now $600...
    ...Thanks for the alarm info and input from others!
  • See that you have pick-up date on 10/17. I have resquested one on 10/30, but have not received a confirmation letter from BMW and the ED at BMW folks say it may be several weeks from now. How did you obtain confirmation so quickly? Need infor for airline, hotel, etc.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    I agree that the best all-around source is Orbitz, especially for international fares.
  • I have a few "newbie" questions about European Delivery:

    1.) When do you actually pay for and take title to the car?
    2.) If you are trading in a car, do you wait until your BMW is delivered to you in the states before turning in the trade-in car to the dealer?
    3.) Has anyone had a particularly good or bad experience with a BMW dealer in the Baltimore/Annapolis/DC area?

    Thanks for the help! This is a great resource.
  • I will be doing ED next month (delivery date in Munich is 10/28). I'll be going to my dealer next week to pay for the car (i.e., pay the purchase price itself; TT&L to be paid once car arrives at the US dealership). My dealer said that I will need to sign and have notarized a purchase order, which I gather he will be sending in to BMW NA. He said that the price listed on the PO will be MSRP, and he assured me not to worry about that, that I will pay our negotiated price--which I have in writing, BTW. I'm sure this is all above board, yet I would still like confirmation from some who have done ED that this is, in fact, standard operating procedure. Thanks!
  • You actually pay for the car or complete financing 45 to 60 days form the date of pick-up. If you are trading in a car, you will need transportation from the time of the trade till the time that you do delivery in the States. As far MD/DC/VA dealers, I cannot help you.
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    sharris - yes, that is above board. My salesman told me the same thing (about MSRP being on the form, but that had nothing to do with the price we had agreed on) and everything turned out fine.

    craigd47 - one downside to ED is that you have to be able to be able to finance or pay for the car without including a trade-in OR you have to be able to go about 3 months without your old car. You receive your title registration forms when you pick the car up at your dealer after it has made its way to the states.
  • I have a delivery date of 10/30 in Munich and have been scheduled to pay for my car at the dealership on 9/23. This Texas dealership want me to also pay the TTL fees at that time. This doesn't seem right in that the car will not be in the states for 2-3 months. Any other's experience? Also when should you receive the BMW confirmation letter for delivery? I am hesitant to pre-pay airline tickets until the date is firm. My car is still in status 112. Gail
  • pap5pap5 Posts: 144
    I have no personal experience doing ED with a D.C. area dealer, but a number of Edmunds users have reported good experiences with Passport in Marlow Heights. Their ED specialist is Joern Esser (may not be the exact spelling). I arranged my ED with a dealer in another area, before reading about Passport.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I was looking at the Performance Center Delivery option on the BMW site last night. How does it compare to the ED? Other than going to Europe, is the experience similar? I was thinking about going to the Driving schools when I pick up my next BMW, whenever that may be and was curious about having it delivered to the PC.

    Opinions?

    -Paul
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    Your dealer is telling you the truth. You pay for EVERYTHING upfront. When the car comes back to the states they just hand it over to you. It seems to me I received 2 letters from BMW, the first was a congratulatory note with a small gift (a pen) and then later an information packet. Once you have a production number that should be good enough, though. I don't know what 112 is, but I guess that means you have a production number.
  • Which driving school do you want to attend? I believe there is a web site for the Performance Center and the dates for the schools are listed. You don't drive your own car for the schools, so that might be a plus. There are also drive packages that can be purchased. I've never gone to the Performance Center but when my daughter turns 16, it will be mandatory even though she will not drive my car.EVER.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I want to attend the M school, but it is very pricey. There is the one that is one step up from the Teen defensive driving school, which I would like my daughter to do. I just like the idea of how they present the car when you pick it up and was curious as to how the PC delivery compared to ED (besides the obvious location difference).

    -Paul
  • The ED is kind of funny. You go to pick up your car at this large garage. Someone helps you with your luggage. You eat lunch (I could have skipped this part). Look around the center (not much to view). They come get you to see your car. At this point, you don't hear anything. All focus is on your new car. Because I have a NAV, the presentatiom seem to go on for ever. Mr. Fortuna told me the break-in info about three times. You smile and drive off. The Performance Center is probably a good experience. In Munich, you have to set up a factory tour before hand and it is only certain days of the week. Then there is the museum. None of this facilities are in the same place like the Performance Center. There are pros and cons. I had my car less than a hour before I got my first chip in the paint. I was cruising at a cool 90 mph just after getting outside of Munich heading to Stuttgart. It was like slow motion, I watch the rock come across my hood. It change the rest of my five hour drive to Spangdahlem, Germany. I did the European pickup because I was going home anyway. My expenses were no different then any other trip to Europe outside of having to pickup my wife at London Gatwick. I spent more money when I took the whole family to Europe and had to rent two cars.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    sievwrig,
    Thanks for the comments. It rather sounds like if you can't afford the ED, either with time or money, the PC Delivery may be a good option to consider for that special feeling.

    Does anybody know if the PC Delivery can work with cars other than the Z3 or Z4, and X5?

    -Paul
  • I'll be in Munich a few days before I pick up my ED BMW on 10/28. Looking for a place to stay in a central location where we can walk and/or take public transit to see the sights. Also looking for something moderately priced. Any recommendations?

    Also, our flight back to the states departs early in the morning, so I'd appreciate any recommendations for reasonably priced places near the airport. Thanks!
  • Paul:

    PC Delivery works with any kind of BMW (car or motorcycle). I don't think the Mini is included. ED is really a factor of time an not money. Even though I live in Texas, I consider myself a Florida transplant. Vacations to Orlando can be rather expensive especially compared to European vacations. The thing is the time taken to drive between cities. But you could just plan the vacation to Germany. Pickup the car. Drop it off at E.H.Harms and continue with the vacation. I don't think most people drive their ED car enough to get pass the break-in point. Hence, they don't get to drive the car until the limiter kicks in.
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    A lot of Edmunds EDers have stayed at the Hotel Uhland. It's sort of becoming a tradition. I think derprofi was the first one who brought it to our attention. It's about a mile from the old city center -- a little too far to walk. But taxis are cheap and readily available. A double room in the high season is about $80.00. As for the airport, it is well outside of town and places of accomodation out there are going to be limited in number.


    Hotel Uhland:


    http://www.hotel-uhland.de/enwelcome.html

    Hotel Uhland IS within walking distance of the Augustiner Keller Beer Hall and Garden on Arnulfe Strasse. It is well worth visiting:

    http://www.munich-info.de/biergaerten/augustiner/welcome_en.html

  • I'm an American living in Munich for about 1 year and can recommend a nice hotel on a quiet street in my neighborhood. It is Hotel Adria in Lehel.


    http://www.adria-muenchen.de/index.htm


    It is only a ten-minute walk to Marienplatz (city center) and the Lehel U-bahn stop is less than a 5-minute walk from the hotel. Also, you're less than 5 minutes to the Englischer Garten. The only downside is parking, which can be tight.


    Have fun with ED. I am using ED to pick up a 330 in January before my return to the U.S.

  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    I posted this link on another thread, but now that there is a thread specifically for EDs, I'm reposting as I think people here will be interested:


    http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1014980&uid=635226&members=1

  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    It may be presumptuous of me to post links to other's ED writeups, but I know that when I was planning/waiting for my own ED I couldn't get enough of these:


    Gary Ray's ED website:

    http://www.bariaur.com/e39/EDsavings.html

    platypus' excellent write up:

    platypus "BMW 3-Series" May 8, 2001 11:22am

  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    Here's a link to the website that derprofi put together to document his ED:


    http://mywebpages.comcast.net/derprofi/bmw/

  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    If anyone is interested in taking the BMW factory tour, the number to call to reserve a spot is 1-866-868-7269.
  • Here are a few sites for cheaper tickets to Europe. We went with Scandanavian and loved it ($450 rt out of Seattle).


    http://cms.lufthansa.com/us

    /fly/en/spc/


    http://www.thedailyauction.com


    https://ibp2.scandinavian.net/


    You'll love ED!


    ButMyWife

  • Just wanted to reiterate the benefits to dealing with Passport BMW (Marlow Heights, MD) for ED, which you may have read on this and other forums. Thanks to all who posted about them.

    Ask for Joern Esser (pronounced "yorn"), who is willing to deal. I just ordered a 2003 330i nicely equipped for 1,200 over ED invoice. This was a hassle-free experience.

    I am not affiliated with Passport in any way...just a happy customer.
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    From time-to-time the question has come up whether an ED car comes out of the dealer's allotment. If it doesn't, of course, then it should be easier to cut a good deal on an ED. Some salesmen were saying (at the beginning of 2002) that the policy had changed and that ED cars were now coming out of the dealer's allotment where they hadn't before. Well, this question was posted over on bimmerfest yesterday and someone answered it who seemed pretty knowledgeable. He said that M cars do come out of the allotment but the others don't. So bear that in mind when you are negotiating...
  • hgeyerhgeyer Posts: 188
    The dealer who sold me my ED 330i in March confirmed this as well.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    The amount of misinformation (or outright lies) from car sales people is astounding. In negotiations I don't get into whether cars come from allotments, whether advertising fees are levied, or what appropriate margins are. Instead, just find out what a "good dea" is (it appears to be aroudn $1200-$1500 over base ED invoice) and work a few dealers to get it. They don't have to make the deal if they don't want to and I don't have to buy. I also don't worry too much if I got the absolutely best deal - if the dealership deals straight, treat me well, and I'm paying around the market rate, then I'm happy. They've got to make a living too.

    - Mark
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 780
    I'm considering purchasing a 2003 330 convertible in the next few months. I reviewed the BMW website as well as all the posts here, but I think I'm missing something on how ED pricing works. Can anyone answer the following questions?
    1. What is ED invoice price and where to I find it?
    2. Are ED prices negotiable just like regular MSRP?
    3. Can I order the car from one dealer and have it delivered to another? If so, is there an extra fee?
    4. If you recently used ED for a 330CIC, what did you pay?

    Thanks for any help.
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