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BMW European Delivery

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  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I toured Austria a couple times in 1999 and 2000. Things may have changed but ... I didn't do anything special with respect to licensing or my US driver's license. There were some sections of autobahn that required a special license and I avoided these, that was the only restriction I was told about and paid attention to. They're clearly marked.

    Mostly I drove country two -anes. My impression on both trips were that drivers paid little attention to speed limits except in town - on the country roads, everybody drove as they pleased and the drivers are very skilled - some going crazy-fast, others poking along. It is a totally different experience than in the states where you feel like you're in a herd of gazelles all doing 5-10 over and watching for the state trooper lions hiding in the bushes. I even passed some cops doing 20-30 clicks over and we'd wave to each other - once I might have been flashed to slow down. I really get the impression that they're more interested in safety than revenue generation.

    But again ... I generally stayed off the autobahns and I adhered closely to the speed limits in the towns.

    I love driving in Europe except in the cities where the traffic density just goes off the scale and parking is impossible. It is also highly desirable to avoid August when everyone is on vacation. If you stay in the country, it is some of the most enjoyable driving to be found

    - Mark
  • wstevecwstevec Posts: 126
    How much does one save with the ED program, for example if you were buying a 325xi with a list of $35,000 (with options of course) what would that cost over Europe? Thanks
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    All the numbers to do the cost comparison are published on the net - their are pointers to web sites in this forum.

    But in round numbers, for a 325xi, you're probably going to be able to bargain about $1500 over invoice, whether you do USD or ED, so the basic ED discount is going to be around 8% of the MSRP of the base car, say about $2.5K.

    Against this $2.5K, you have to weigh the cost and value of a trip to Europe (which can vary widely depending on whether you want to go anyway and what flight options you have), and the issue that you will be paying for the car before you leave, which can amount to an extra couple car payments with no car. Also, trade-ins can be trickier if you have to give up your car before you go and don't have a car while it is being shipped.

    For some, its the greatest bargain in car buying around. For others, its a lot of trouble and expensive to save a relatively small amount. It all depends on your situation and POV.

    For most, if you want an Euro adventure, its a great deal. If you just want your car cheaply, its not worth it.

    - Mark
  • wstevecwstevec Posts: 126
    Thanks for your help.
  • hbouhbou Posts: 13
    With European delivery, do you pay the $675 destination charge? Also, has anyone heard of having to pay a 15% deposit for Euro delivery, which is then reimbursed when you pick up the car in the US? Thank you for your help!!!!
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Ummm, Yes and horse hockey.

    The destination charge applies regardless of how the car was purchased. The 15% deposit, however, is another matter, my deposit on my 530i was $1,000.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I had heard that you pay a deposit when you order a ED car, typically a few months before you plan on getting it in Europe. The deposit amount and refundability is negotiable with the dealer but $1K-$2K is customary and most dealers don't want you backing out of a ED car, so they will want a non-refundable deposit.

    You then pay for the car in full at least 30-days before you are to take delivery in Europe.

    No other charges and no "reimbursement" schemes.

    - Mark
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    My salesman didn't even ask me for a deposit.
  • derprofiderprofi Posts: 249
    It's nice to see so many "old-timers" from the 3-series board still alive and kicking here like shipo, hgeyer, postoak, nyccarguy, seivwrig :-) I just spent the past hour or two reading through the whole thread and it's good to see that ED is still going strong.

    I've got another year of warranty left on my '02 330i, which I'm still loving, but I'm considering something like a Prius or maybe a motorcycle (note to BMW: bring the C1 to the US!) as a replacement when the time comes (long story). My father is loving his '03 530i that we picked up in July '03, but I'm not sure we'll be doing another one soon since he doesn't like the new 5-er styling. Fortunately, my wife will be looking to replace her SLK this spring/summer so I'm starting the subtle process of pushing her toward another ED trip.
  • I plan to buy 330i ZHP with xenon, leather and cold package thrugh ED delivery. Does anyone has idea what the reasonable price will this car be?
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    As the first person I can remember recommending the Hotel Uhland in Munich you might be interested to know that they've really taken to it over at bimmerfest. There are many in the ED forum there who have stayed there (indirectly because of you) and loved it.

    I'm still hanging out in Ed forums because there's a good chance I'll do another one next year. If the E90 is not to my liking though, then it may be on an MB of some kind.
  • 330iii330iii Posts: 71
    I took delivery of my Munich Pickup E60 yesterday afternoon and i noticed something funny. My front bumper had those two "little doors" that open up for the headlight washers.I could've sworn they were not there when i dropped off my baby at E.H. Harms.The weird thing is that i never ordered the cold weather package.
  • aukemaaukema Posts: 19
    DK3307

    My wife and I have children the same age and are thinking about a ED on a X3 3.0i. We feel if the children get much older they won't want to go with us. Touring Europe in a vehicle of choice, saving money on the purchase price and car rental is the way to go. I understand it takes 6-8 weeks for the vehicle to arrive stateside but we can get by with the two cars we have currently. I met a couple in the book store that did the ED on a 3xx and toured S Germany, N Italy and France in 2weeks. Really thought it was a great experience. The price I have been quoted is 1750 over ED invoice. That is a 4000 savings off US MSRP or 2500 off some accepted offers. Let me know what you have decided to do.

    Thanks
  • dk3307dk3307 Posts: 8
    aukema,

    Our dealership here would not have any 2.5 until mid Feb. We want to test drive the 2.5 before we decide to buy the 3.0 or 2.5. We don't need the car until Aug so we have a lot of time to decide. I will keep you posted. Thanks.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    In an effort to evaluate the difference between the two engines I might suggest that you try driving a 525i and a 530i with the same transmission as you would like in your X3. Given that the 5er, when compared to an X3, will be about a second quicker to sixty you can determine that if the 525i is more than fast enough, than the X3 2.5 should be adequate. However, if the 530i is only marginally fast enough, you certainly will not like the 2.5 mill and should opt for the 3.0.

    I have read numerous posts that many folks can't really tell the difference between the two, well, no offence, but there is a huge difference according to my "Butt Dyno".

    Good luck, let us know what you decide.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • ger3sfger3sf Posts: 29
    Assuming BMW FS offers leases on ED cars, would the money factor be different (compared to non-ED)?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,523
    Nope...the MF is the same. But, since you have to pay for the car before you pick it up, and then have a six week wait for it to be delivered to your dealer, you usually have to make 2-3 lease payments before you get the car.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I don't see how one could avoid paying less than two. I lived in NJ when I did my ED, and due to the fact that you make your first lease payment one month prior to your arrival in Munich, there is your first month, the boat ride for us East Coast types is a second month. For folks on the Left Coast, it's more like 10-12 weeks from the first lease payment to the U.S. delivery of the car.

    In my case, I needed a car in Europe one way or another, so I just considered my extra 2 months of lease payments as my European car rental.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • i am doing my ed mid february, which do i leave on the car, the front or back license plates? also, what type of tool do i need to bring to detach the plate?
  • 330iii330iii Posts: 71
    Take the front plate with you just before you drop off at E.H. Harms,leave the rear plate on. I used the screwdriver provided in the trunk tool kit. To my surprise the rear plate was in my trunk when i took delivery stateside!
  • Also take the first aid kit and safety triangle if you definitely want to keep them. The first aid kit will also have to be in your checked in luggage, it contains a pair of scissors.

    Our rear plate was still on the car when it arrived at the dealer, although the dealer may have put it on before we arrived.
  • Anyone have a 6 ordered for ED?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    But the queue is long.
  • When did you order and when do you pick up? Did you get european invoice pricing or pay a premium? I hear that if ordering a 04 model now pick up is around July and that an 05 model ordred in a month or two can be picked up as early as Oct 04...
  • aukemaaukema Posts: 19
    dk3307,

    Ok, my wife and I took the plunge yesterday and purchased the x3 for ED for the end of May. The purchase price was $1750 off the ED MSRP. I figure the $2500 savings for ED and $1000 savings on a car rental will more than cover the air fair and some of the vacation cost.

    Unfortunately we were planing to use frequent flier miles for 2 tickets but discovered with Delta you need to plan a year in advance for available seats. We are looking into the Lufthansa offer of 2 for 1. We'll know next week the cost of the tickets and availability.

    Anyone that has done ED, please let me know were you stayed in Munich, how long it took for the pick-up process, factory tour (is it worth the time), and museum. We are thinking of touring southern Germany and northern Italy with a drop-off at Munich. Would appreciate any comments from individuals that have done the same.
    Thanks,
  • 330iii330iii Posts: 71
    Could you have paid 1750 over ED confidential wholesale invoice instead? Maybe you can take your deal to another dealership and try to meet or beat it? I stayed at Movenpick near Munchen airport but that was for only one night. I flew out of JFK on 12-06 Saturday night,arrived in Munchen (Munich)late Sunday morning 12-07.Woke up first thing 12-08 Monday morning 600am,checked out of the hotel,hopped a cab to Freimann Delivery Center,picked up my E60,took some food for the road compliments of BMW with the voucher. Then i drove to the local BMW dealer (Niederlassing)picked up some toys and drove to E.H. Harms in Garching. Dropped off the car,got a cab back to the airport for my 330pm flight. I was back at JFK 600pm Monday night! Cost:350 for the nonstop flight on Lufthansa, 80 for the hotel thru Expedia. By the way i found out that your car must be on the ship at least 5 days prior (due to 9-11-01) or you have to wait for the next ship. My E60 was brought to my ship on 12-09 the ship set sail on 12-10.I had to wait for the next one on 12-24 otherwise i would have probably gotten it 2 weeks sooner!
  • The confidential ED Munchen Delivery base price for the X3 is $30,720. A good price is $1,500 over the confidential wholesale price for the vehicle including destination charge and all options.
  • We stayed at Four Points in the Olymic Park. I cannot remember the chain. They have secure parking, is near all BMW Facilities and is an easy subway ride to the delivery center, one transfer. It is much easier to use Munich's Subway system than to drive around Munich to various sights.

    I also highly recommend Lucerne, Switzerland. Also,the McDonald's in Innsbrook has the best McDonald's parking lot view I have ever seen.
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    Since no one else has answered...

    It's been 1 1/2 years since I went and the dollar has collapsed against the Euro since then so take this for what it's worth. From the airport to my hotel (about 6 miles past the delivery center) was $45.
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