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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • mayberryguymayberryguy Posts: 145
    I like the dark blue with the brown interior - very classy

    I agree, that is my favorite combination too. It seems to be the most classy out of all the combinations IMO. Have only ever seen one in person and fell in love. I tried to locate one when I was buying back in March but no new '05 325i or xi's with that color combo.
  • mayberryguymayberryguy Posts: 145
    I've done some searches of similarly equipped CPO's here in my area (Indiana), and this seems to be a very good deal. I would maybe try for 26k but if you really want the car don't let it get away. I found out the hard way back in March when I was looking for my '05 325xi with Manual. Good Luck.
  • sender1sender1 Posts: 29
    We signed a purchase agreement for a 2005 330xi about a week ago and put down deposit of $1000. We were supposed to pick up car yesterday. My husband's calls to salesman who sold him car went unreturned all week. The day before we were to go pick up car, the sales manager calls my husband and tells him that "by mistake" the car was sold the day before to someone else. How they can do this when we have a purchase agreement with the VIN # of the car and a deposit on it is beyond me but all the guy says is that mistakes happen. Their stories change with whoever gets on the phone. The biggest problem is that we spent weeks looking for this car, there are NO 2005 330xi's equipped like that in basically the country. ( I did a search with BMW). Major problem, my husband's lease on his Volvo is up in 2 weeks and new 2006s not out until Oct. Angry doesn't even begin to describe how we feel. Oh, by the way the dealership is Wide World of Cars Bmw in Spring Valley New York. What recourse do we have
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    You have no recourse...

    Did the dealer offer to find you another car?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    $1500 over ED invoice + all options priced at invoice (there is no ED invoice on options.. all are same price, US or ED) is a good deal.. That wouldn't keep me from asking for $1000 over, though...

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    No cash incentives on the coupes.. AMT was referring to '05 sedans...

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    The price looks pretty good... If I were negotiating, I'd ask for the 6yr/100K maintenance extension.. (value: $1K)..

    Natural Brown is really nice looking.. reminds me of leather furniture.. I'm not fond of Orient Blue (like that should matter to you), but it contrasts nicely with the NB.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    I get $458.75 + tax.. If NY just taxes the lease payment, then that comes to about $497/mo...

    So, I'm getting $7/mo. less... That could be explained by a different tax calculation than the way I did it... If they multiply the total payments by the tax rate, then add it to the cap cost, that brings it up to about $500.. Tax on the acquistion fee? If not paid upfront and rolled in, that is another $2/mo...

    As you can see, we're talking minuscule differences.. $7/mo at most....

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • baekhobaekho Posts: 6
    Thanks for your reply. Ok sounds like i got a great deal.

    I think the coupe is still better than the 06 sedan simply because the coupe is sportier and has the performance package. Also, mine isn't the demo model. I had it custom ordered they are making it in germany so can't be demo. They are shipping it over here so I assume it isn't a demo?

    I wish the coupe 06 came out but can't wait that long!

    :)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,584
    That's really crummy that they sold the car out from under you. I can tell you that my parents bought 2 cars from wide world last year (an '04 X5 3.0iA and an '05 530iA) and the buying experience was quite good. I'm actually using the same guy again if I decide to go ahead with an '06 325i. If you email me I can give you the name of the salesman I worked with. I'm not sure where you live (Rockland, Westchester, NJ), but they came out to be the cheapest both times. I called many dealers for pricing in the city, Jersey, Westchester, CT...

    If you're leasing, ordering an '06 might be cheaper considering the residuals will be higher. You can extend the lease on your Volvo for a few months. You really don't need the AWD in our area (the car mfrs. make you think you need it) Honestly we get maybe 5 days a year where the roads are bad. Go with a 330i and get a set of snow tires for it.

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  • amt7565amt7565 Posts: 165
    That's terrible. They might have sold it for a higher profit. I am not sure what kind of recourse you have. You paid a deposit and that makes it an agreement. If I was in your position I would be very angy too! You will have to look into your rights as a consumer.
    Good luck.
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  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    If you signed a legally binding agreement saying a certain VIN is your car I'm sure you can go after them for car rental fees until you can get a 2006.
    Possibly talk to a lawyer...
  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    2006 330i Sedan
    $36,300 MSRP
    $695 Destination Charge
    $475 Sparkling Graphite Metallic
    $1,000 Cold Weather Package
    $2,200 Premium Package
    $1,600 Sport Package
    $575 Power Rear Sunshade/Rear Manual Side Window Shades
    $350 Park Distance Control (rear)
    $2,000 On-Board Navigation System w/iDrive
    $45,195 Price as configured

    $3,825 Difference between invoice
    $661 Difference between TMV

    In addition I will be adding the Comfort Access option, thus pushing my build date into September.

    Currently I'm talking to a sales rep from another dealership (BMW of Towson) who is extremely help. Another sales rep from that dealship said they are the biggest BMW dealer & have #1 Customer Service in Maryland and #5 in the Nation. I dont know how true this is but they do have a large size lot, twice as big as the next largest one I've seen.

    What do you guys think is a reasonable price to pay for this. The dealer gave me about a 640 dollar discount off invoice and said will call to talk the next day and never did. So I wont be going back to that place unless they give me an amazing deal.

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    At that level, I'd want $1500 off MSRP.. .even if it is a brand new model....

    Prices go up about $500 for cars that arrive after September 1st..

    I've never heard anything good about Towson... especially their service department...

    Have you tried Passport?

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  • kmg68kmg68 Posts: 108
    I would shoot for $800-$1000 over invoicce. I am looking at a very similar configuration and that is what I am going to ask for.
  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    I have but the person that sent me an email is on vacation for 10 days.
    I forwarded the email to the two individuals that he listed as being his back ups.

    Northwest was the dealership that didnt call back.
    My mother is friends with the general manager at Russle BMW, so I'm going to see if that connection can make some kind of deal out of itself.

    Are there any websites that have dealership ratings and so on?
  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    Passport BMW just replied with this:

    "Your cost would be $43,840 based on the items on the attachment."

    About $2500 above invoice.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    $1350 off MSRP... well.. better than the other quote.. ;)

    I get the feeling, that if you would get them on the phone, or make an appointment to drop by, that there might be another $500-$1000 to work with....

    Good luck!!

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  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    TMW is way off base on this car. Don't go by that. Information posted on this forum is a much better real time indicator.

    I think that you should be able to do a transaction in the range of $1,000 to $1,500 above the invoice price. I placed an order on a new 330i last week. You can go back a few pages to find my July 13 post.
  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    Does it matter that you are taking yours for lease rather than purchasing on the final outcome of the price? Is the dealership making more money on the lease than on the regular purchase?
  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    No, it shouldn't matter at all that I am taking mine as a lease rather than a purchase. First I negotiated the sales price and then I asked them to work up lease numbers based on the negotiated sales price. My lease will result in a sale by the dealer to BMW's financing arm at the negotiated sales price. My dealer is not making any backend profit on my deal by marking up the rates on the BMWFS lease program.
  • poldimpoldim Posts: 13
    It seems like a lot of the New York guys are getting pretty good deals on their 06's. I wonder if there's a chance of getting one of my dealers locally to price match to that...
    I would be extatic if I could get it at $1500 above retail.
  • ddasddas Posts: 14
    Thanks for the info. I closed the deal on Sat for 26K out of the door. I have put in 2K downpayment but have not yet signed the dotted line, plan to do it sometime this week.
    I am working with VOB BMW in Rockville, MD. Does anybody have any feedback on this dealership?

    Thanks,
    Dipanjan
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 159
    :) Perhaps kyfdx or corvette can help me out. I am looking for a reasonable bmw dealer in the midwest (I live in Bloomington, Indiana). I have bought at Isringhausen in springfield, IL and D&R in indianapolis. Neither are very "price friendly", but I do live just 45 minutes from the southside indy store. Any ideas??
    I did just figure out that corvette did a PCD via passport bmw - perhaps that might be a fun option.

    Thanks,
    Mark
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,703
    The midwest is a pretty crappy place to get a great deal on a BMW...

    Not that I've bought there, but the guys at Voss BMW in Centerville (Dayton), OH seem to be straight shooters... Other than that, Chicago has eight dealers..

    I wouldn't consider going that far out of town unless it will save you at least $1000.. Buying at the local dealer is always preferable...

    That said, D&R sure doesn't have a reputation for great deals... Alternatively, you could try Swope in Louisville... There are dealers in Bowling Green and Paducah, KY as well... I'd guess both of those are as close as Chicago.. (maybe not).

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • kennynmdkennynmd Posts: 424
    I'm in MD also. Have you tried Tischer? I got a car from there a couple of years ago was great. Not sure about their service dept. If you want to contact the salesman I dealt with, make your email public. Whe I was thinking about the new 3 a couple of months ago he told me he would split the difference between the invoice and MSRP so in your case it would be about $1900 off.
  • tzdontzdon Posts: 2
    Dealer is trying to push the premium option on me for the added hp. Its nice - but I wonder if I just wait 1 more year - won't the new convertible come with that standard?

    Here's the deal - I own (outright) a 2002 TT Quatro 225hp bought new in 2003 (2 years old - 30k miles) with all the fixin's. (Baseball optic leather, etc.). Dealer wanted to give me 21k on a trade in. I thought that was pretty low - but can't find really good data.... someone here seems to have access to wholesale pricing.

    Would like another convertible - but want back seats for the dogs. Not people - dogs - one beagle - one boxer.

    However, seems like no matter how I do the math - getting a car on a lease costs me about 10k over just keeping my TT and buying it seems like a bit early (maybe I should wait a year).

    The car I wanted is 51,650 - they want to give me one off the lot (obviously and get all hemmed up when I suggest ordering). My point - this is the last year of a body style - I ought to get a pretty significant discount.

    What do people think?
  • tzdontzdon Posts: 2
    actually - I'm in Miami
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