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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • My uncle bought a white 4DR 328i 6AT for $32,800 before taxes and fees in SF Bay Area. Base model with nothing on it but the AT. He took advantage of the .9% and first two payments deal. The dealers seemed willing to deal. He also looked at Acura TSX, Infiniti 08/09 G35/G37 and Lexus IS. He had a first generation Audi A4 and I think fell under the sway of the BMW. I was between the G and the 3-Series. Every car dealer he visited was willing to work at invoice.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Your car has a 6-speed manual transmission? Nice! Way to go! Enjoy the car.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • magplatemagplate Posts: 2
    It has the automatic - I would have preferred the stick but had no choice.

    It does have the paddle shifters though. I'm having trouble keeping the RPM's under 4500 for the break-in period...
  • (comparing to a 2009 model)

    Has anyone gotten any quotes on 335d below MSRP?
  • iaymnuiaymnu Posts: 5
    SO I just came back from the dealer and got a price. My husband and I plan on taking the financing deal for a 328xi with Premium Package, Cold Weather and Nav. After a bit of paper shuffling the sales gave me an OTD price of $47576.

    Does this sound too much? This will be our 1st BMW, and it seems going in the dealer with edmunds TMV doesn't help much. Also need to buy the car before this month ends also. We are in the NYC area.
    Please help :cry:
  • hemanthhhemanthh Posts: 40
    Cant speak for the '09, but I recently got an 06 330xi fully loaded for about 26k. Like somebody else said on this board a few days ago, that like almost half the price. Why no look for a CPO with the same financing option? Shop around till you find a car that is really in shape and looks like new...

    But then, of course, if you have your heart set on a brand new car..:)
  • iaymnuiaymnu Posts: 5
    Yes, we have our hearts set on a brand new car. :blush:

    I just can't seem to find threads about purchasing/paid new '09s.
    I am totally in a bind since I am racing against time now. :sick:
  • jicbulkjicbulk Posts: 20
    6-Spd with Htd Seats and Ti Silver Metallic Paint
    16k miles
    Mine for $22,600 OTD

    Still can't believe it! Fantastic Car!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,381
    Yes, we have our hearts set on a brand new car.

    If you buy a CPO 2008 you will save at least $10,000-$15,000 AND you will have a better warranty. And you could have a 335i instead of a 328i...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    sweet car dude! what was the asking price?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Great deal!

    Curious to know where you live and what the sales tax rate was since you mentioned the price was OTD.

    Enjoy the car.

    Thanks,
    Ryan
  • jajjaj Posts: 55
    That sounds really high to me - at least 4 to 5K over what it should be, especially now. I'm assuming OTD means just that and includes tax, which you can't escape, but that it also includes some fees that are just bogus means of bringing in more to the dealership. Have you sought other offers, including via the Internet? As anxious as you are to get the car, these guys are at least as anxious to sell. Good luck.

    -jaj
  • beamer44beamer44 Posts: 17
    I have a deal right now at $200 over invoice but working to get invoice which i should get soon. My question is do i have to pay Training/service fee which is $180 & do i have to pay Maco which is $250 and appearance package is $189 & Electronic fee is $25. Thanks for your help on this.
  • iaymnuiaymnu Posts: 5
    That is what I exactly feel. I am looking into other dealers in the NYC area, but we went here first because it is 2 miles from our home. I am anxious to get the car, but not when I don't feel comfortable.

    Edmunds TMV suggested ~41k for the model (328xi AT,PP Cold weather NAV) in my area. So should my tactic be offering price between the MSRP and TMV? (i know the prices are before tax and other fees).

    It is very discouraging having the dealer confidently saying they gave me a "discount" when it clearly seems a bit over. :sick:
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    If you buy a CPO 2008 you will save at least $10,000-$15,000 AND you will have a better warranty. And you could have a 335i instead of a 328i...

    I bought a 2007 335i sport, navi - saved about 18-19k from the vehicle's MSRP (got it for 26.5k including BMWCCA rebate). I couldn't find a 328i manual with sport for 22k-23k otherwise I would have gone for that.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Edmunds TMV suggested ~41k for the model (328xi AT,PP Cold weather NAV) in my area. So should my tactic be offering price between the MSRP and TMV? (i know the prices are before tax and other fees).

    1:
    Internet only - do not go to a lot until the deal is ready

    2:
    Internet only - sorry had to repeat it. Going on the lot is a waste.

    3:
    Invoice minus any trunk money. If you have a BMWFS lease or loan, you've got a couple grand waiting for you. If you do not, then invoice. That's it. Invoice + maybe $100-400 (depending on how generous you feel).

    4:
    No mention of a trade-in

    5:
    Negotiate price AND check extra fees. Some scummy dealers tack on extras.

    6.
    Be prepared to walk away. They NEED you. You do not need them.

    I did my last 2 BMWs and Mini via phone/internet. On my last BMW we showed up with the deal ready (they even had my info as I was that sure); drove the car; signed the papers; left the dealership in under 1 hour.

    Salespeople are a waste of your time. Internet. TMV is a joke - aim much lower as TMV reflects what the average boob pays.
  • jajjaj Posts: 55
    Blueguy's advice is very sound. Keep in mind, too, that no matter who you purchase the vehicle from, you can still get it serviced at the dealership two miles from your home. And they'll be happy to have your business. Let us know how you make out.

    -jaj
  • iaymnuiaymnu Posts: 5
    Thanks for the great advice!

    Hope i don't need to exercise #6 too often
  • jicbulkjicbulk Posts: 20
    It was at a Honda dealership and they had it online for $23,800 and I had several phone conversations with a Sales Manager. When I went in the Sales Guy puts me through the ringer with forms, etc. , then we drive the car, then he goes to his Mgrs and comes at me with a figure of $29+. I'm like, "Um, No." and showed him the internet ad. He goes away and comes back with stuff like "Well, the car was mispriced, but they'll honor it if you really want it..." and then talked about how internet shoppers get better pricing than the people who walk on to the lot...? Anyway, 2 or 3 rounds later and we sealed the deal.
  • jicbulkjicbulk Posts: 20
    Ryan - I live in Tax-Free NH so there was NO Sales Tax!
  • Thanks for the info.

    I have to tack on 8.25% for mine :( The price of living in CA. (And for those of you buying a car in CA, if you wait until April 1, sales tax is going up by 1% :mad: )

    Hope you enjoy the car. I think you got a great deal!

    -ryan
  • iaymnuiaymnu Posts: 5
    We finally made our decision. 2009 328xi with PP, Cold Weather, Navi, Ipod connectoin. We got a price of $44500 OTD. Not sure if the deal was great or just avg, but it was definitely better than our first. :D
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    how do you like your 335i? Are you happier with it than your former 330i?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Much happier. Of course I'm now 3 cars removed from my ZHP. I'd still like to remove the 18s, put on go flat 17s and get a real exhaust on the car but otherwise I'm enjoying it. A couple of dips into wide-open-throttle every day makes me smile, RWD feels like home, the AC really thumps (thank god as it's miserably hot here), 23 mpg average is fine for mixed/aggressive driving and of course with my infant son it's so much easier to live with daily than my Cooper S.

    I smile when I fire it up in the morning. Can't say that happened with my 2006 330i.
  • biggedbigged Posts: 1
    Yes it is too much. I just lock in a quote from Life quality BMW for the following package:

    STEPTRONIC automatic transmission
    Navigation
    Sport Package
    Cold Weather Package
    Cold
    IPod/USB
    Parking distance control
    Comfort Access System
    Blue tooth wireless

    all for $47,800 and i am not getting a 328xi but a much more expensive 335xi.
    You have to make sure you look at their wholesale value before you start negotiating the price with them. Especially at this time, THEY NEED YOU! don't pay more then you're suppose to. I am an accountant so you can pretty much imagine on how cheap can i get lol. well hope that helps!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    I'm glad you're happy with your car (& your kid too...congrats btw!). I'm so far away from my next vehicle purchase as my '01 Prelude (still makes me smile every time I fire it up) has over 108,000 miles and shows no sign of age, we are expecting child #2 in about 4 weeks, and we are trying (since May '08) to sell our 2 bedroom condo and buy a house. I've never actually thought to get a used car as my daily driver. I've always rationalized by saying, I'd rather have a new 328i with few options rather than a used 335i. Unfortunately I've driven a 335xi & 535xi (slushboxes saddled by AWD) and found the acceleration simply intoxicating. So when the time comes I'm going to strongly consider a CPO search for a 335i (Sport & stick of course).

    Funny how things come around full circle. Back in '01 when the E46 330i first came out, people on the left side of the country were paying MSRP +. Used E36 328is coupes were commanding just a few thousand less than a new E46. Now BMW is offering cheap financing + 2 payments (new) & used twin turbo 3ers are screaming bargains.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • If you buy a CPO 2008 you will save at least $10,000-$15,000 AND you will have a better warranty. And you could have a 335i instead of a 328i...

    roadburner - what do you mean when you say the warranty is better for a CPO vs. a new 2009? Are you referring to the additional 2 yrs of warranty on all CPOs, or something else? Just curious.

    I am in the market to buy a new 2009 328i - enticed by the 0.9% and 2 month payment. Thanks to this forum, though, I've also now been shopping for 2006 325i's and 330i's with low mileage since BMW also has the 0.9% financing on these models. I've never bought a used car before - how do you derive what offer to make to the dealer? I know that for new cars, the goal is to get the dealer as close to invoice (less any incentives or rebates) for the best deal. With used cars, there's no invoice, correct? So should I be negotiating based on the Edmunds TMV or Kelly BB price? I'm just looking for help on how to figure out what the best price on a car should be.

    For example, here's one of the 2 cars I'm looking at:

    2006 330i
    Prem Package, Sport Package, Auto, Xenon, Navigation, Satellite Radio, Logic 7 Sound System
    15,796 miles
    Asking price - $29,991

    What would be a good price to buy this car at? (and how did you get to that number?)

    Thanks for your help!
  • Maybe someone can help me? I own a 2007 328i stationwagon that I have had nothing but problems with since I purchased it new! It is now 15 months old with just over 25k miles on the clock and for the second time in the last year my electronic door locks are not working. No, it is not the key fob battery. The last time the dealership told me that one or two of the door locks were defective and replaced them. Now this has happened again in such a short time. I am starting to wonder if this "new" vehicle that I bought from the dealer was a flood vehicle that was rejuvenated. Is their a way, other than using carfax, to find if my new vehicle was damaged prior to sale as a new car? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, J.
  • They offered $28K fairly easily. I think I can get this down to $25K if I go down there and negotiate. Is that out of the question for the options attached?

    sjsharkie - did you buy the car? I'm curious what the final price was, as I found a similarly equipped '07 328i here in LA...

    AJ
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