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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Hey, I have an offer to buy 2012 328i for $39,499. The MSRP is $44, 499 for this alpine white/coral red interior with tech+premium+sport package. Since it becomes almost an year old model in 2013, would like to know if the price is right.
    Sorry if it is a repeat question that someone already asked.

    Thanks in advance
  • Can someone tell me if this is a good deal on a 328i 2013. It's Msrp is 39995. 39 month lease 4k out door includes first month payment and 347 per month 12 k miles per year.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,631
    What's the final price of the car, what is the money factor? What options are on the car?
  • Final price is 36995 .0013 and .59 residual options are sunroof red color and the wood trim. Thanks
  • This seems like a great deal. I wanna get deal like that
    Which dealership was that?
    I live in NJ and there is 7% sales tax here so it might be little more here for me
  • I was looking for 2012 model on 328i, I found a private seller who wanted $34,200, the car has 9,000 miles and it comes with premium and technology package. no cosmetic issue. Doing a price research on KBB, this car seem like a good price but when I compare it with Edmund TMV, the car should only be from $30-32K. Is this a good deal before I jump on this?
  • I want to help people out who might be in the market for a 328i (2013) Sedan. Here are TWO deals that were offered to me yesterday (Chandler, Arizona).

    2013 BMW 328i Sedan (12/20/12 build date)
    Alpine White / Venetian Beige Dakota Leather
    ZPP Premium Package
    494 Heated front seats
    4AB Dark Burl Walnut wood trim
    508 Park Distance Control
    609 Navigation system
    MSRP: $44,745 (including destination of $895)
    Offered @ Invoice: $41,745 + $300 = $42,045. Subtract Feb $1000 cash offer = $41,045

    2013 BMW 328i Sedan
    White/Beige
    + Premium
    + Navigation (not Tech)
    MSRP: $43,545
    Sale Price: $40,950
    Rebate: -$1000
    Balance: $39,950 pls TTL & Doc fee

    What I ended up doing was picking up a 2011 328i Sedan, CPO, only 12k miles, manager demo. Fully loaded @ MSRP of $44k, got it for $30k... AND BMW FS @ 0.9% for 48 months... the numbers and the car are just too perfect to pass up this one. I know it's not the new car but meets all my needs and I personally love the inline 6! :)
  • A local dealer has 2012 demo cars of 328is for sale and they are priced at $37.5k. When their original MSRPs were ~$44k with options.

    So the 2012 offer you have if for a new body sedan, is killer.
  • You can get that deal on a 2013 basically... you might be getting $1k more. I would also ask the dealer the exact differences between 2012 and 2013. I think in 2013 they added folding rear seats which were extra? I could be wrong.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,631
    Excellent deal on the 2011, BTW, who was your salesman at Chapman? When I buy I go through Jimmy or Brian (sales manager.)
  • So there is a $1000 cash back offer good on the 2013 3-series in Feb?
  • newtoocanewtooca Posts: 10
    edited February 2013
    Hi all first time luxury car buyer...actually didn't had any car for last 5 year (living in nyc) .....

    one dealer has given me quote for following car

    2013 BMW 328i Sedan
    Jet black
    Premium Package
    BMW Assist
    MSRP: $42,000

    37,500 + tax+ dmv

    Is this a good price?

    any help is appreciated...

    Dealer is offering this
  • Is 37,500 out the door price?
  • sorry no that + taxes which is 8% around orange county CA where i will buy and ia m moving there..
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,631
    It appears that BMW is aggressively moving their coupes and convertibles since the new 4 series is due out soon. I'm sure since BMW contacted you, you are in a good position to deal...
  • jwallsjwalls Posts: 30
    2013 328i Black Sapphire Metallic, cold weather package (ZCW), premium package (ZPP), BMW Assist (6NL).

    MSRP 42,645...dealer offer $38,350
    36 month lease with .00130 LMF....we will put down $5000 which will leave a balance of $26,866 at the end of the lease.....Dealer said the residual value is 63%

    Any information would be greatly appreciated...if you need more info hopefully I can provide it
  • That's a lot of money to put down on a lease. You should always try to get your down payment as close to $0 as possible since it is likely that you will never get that $ back should you suffer a total loss on the car (accident, theft).

    Talk to your CA about doing MSDs instead--multiple security deposits. These are refundable at lease end and they bring down your money factor (interest rate).

    Of course, all of this assumes you want the option of turning the car back in at lease end. If your payment strategy is aimed at eventually paying off and owning the car, then that kind of dp makes more sense.
  • jwallsjwalls Posts: 30
    The $5000 down is to get the payments to a level my girlfriend can afford. Half is from a trade in and the other half cash.
    Neither of us have leased so we are not familiar with the MSD's you are mentioning.
    I will do a little research on those...thanks
  • No, no, no, no, no. jwalls, shabadoo25 is correct. you should NEVER put that much money down on a lease. If the car is totaled, you will lose all that money, and you would be out of luck. MSDs are definitely the way to go. I would highly recommend that you see if you can modify the deal, where your car equity goes towards the fees/etc, and the cash that you put down, goes towards the multiple security deposits. They can issue you a credit for the difference between the fees and what your car is worth. Sure, your payments will be higher, but that sure beats losing all that money if your car gets totalled.

    As long as you did not take delivery, you can change the deal, and if they refuse, just cancel the deal altogether.
  • I haven't purchased a BMW for close to 20 years, but I'm hoping to purchase a 335i this spring. Walked into a local dealer recently, and was told sales folks there are on salary and no longer negotiate. Is this true across dealers? If not, I'll just find another one.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,285
    1. That's most certainly not true across all dealers.
    2. Even if a dealer did such a thing, that would not exclude negotiating because the salespeople aren't selling units for themselves, they are selling for the dealership management/owner, and it is those folks who need to move units. If they want to move a unit, they will negotiate.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,220
    I agree with Q.

    One sure way to find out, ask them for their "non-negotiable" price. Once you have it, tell them you're just shopping around and plan to see if another BMW dealer is now part of the "non-negotiating" business plan.

    See if they let you walk.
  • Here is what we were offered:
    MSRP: $49,795
    Sale price: $49,000
    Customer cash: $4,751.99 (includes adv payment, upfront charges of $3,161.51 and total cap reduction of $2,756.30
    Total rebates: $1,750
    (Since we are looking at leasing another BMW, they offered to take another $750 off, which is not included below)

    36 months/15,000 miles

    $584.18 a month

    Options include:
    Cold weather
    Drivers assistance
    Lighting
    Walnut
    Navigation

    Thoughts???

    We would greatly appreciate your advice as this would be our first lease.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 772
    You will definitely make the salesman's Christmas card list if you take that deal...

    Go back through this discussion and you'll see that others have gotten $3k plus rebates off the MSRP. Wait until the first MLB pitch and the prices on xi models will drop further.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,475
    I agree with Vinny.. $800 off?

    I'm guessing if you see all the figures, they are marking up the money factor and the acquisition fee as well..

    Might have an easy $2500-$3000 of total cost to take off that deal..

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  • seanh2oseanh2o Posts: 27
    First of all, thanks to all who have posted. The discussions were really helpful. I have been shopping around for 3 and found that most dealers are willing to offer at invoice in addition to cash back incentives (1k for financing with BMW and 750 for loyalty). However, what I am concerned is that the MF is 0.0013, which is over 3%. Comparing to others, it seems pretty high. Did BMW MF ever go close to 1%? I'd like to know if this is really the best time to lease one.

    Thanks!
  • narjissenarjisse Posts: 2
    MSRP: $47095

    So Your Purchase Price is: $44800 ?
    ($2300 off of MSRP is a good deal.)
    - $1000 USAA discount
    - $1000 finance incentive
    Total = $42800

    *
    weather mats = rubber mats from BMW for free?
  • narjissenarjisse Posts: 2
    edited March 2013
    dealer offered you $4500 off of MSRP? I think this is a very goooood deal.
    I am in NY and looking to buy 328i xDrive, too. Can you tell me where you got this deal?
  • I am looking to buy 2013 328i xDrive in PA and below is the price I got from dealer.
    Wanted to check if its a good deal or I can negotiate further.
    This is first time I am buying a BMW.

    MSRP: $43,445
    Sale price: $40,795
    Total Rebates: $1000.00

    Base Monthly payment : 458.61
    Tax : 41.27
    Monthly Payment: 499.88
    term : 36 months

    Residual Amount: $27370.35
    Money factor/rate: 0.00135
    Mileage Program : 10,000

    Advance Paments: $499.88
    Upfront Charges: $550.93
    Total Cap Reduction: $1,149.19 (I didn't understand whats this. Can someone tell me whats this?)
    Due on Deliver : $1200

    Car has heated front seats,navigation,moon roof, BMW Asst with USB

    Thanks in advance!
  • insidecarbuyinsidecarbuy NYCPosts: 95
    Some dealers configurer deals different ways. He should have just structured it first month and bank fee out of pocket and it would have come out to $1,143.04 plues DMV. With that being said on a car with that MSRP you should have a monthly payment of $418.04. Doesn't look like he is giving you such a great deal. See the details of what the deal should look like below... Good Luck!

    CUSTOMER DISCLOSURE

    Customer Name: Inside Car Buying, LLC
    Sale Vehicle: New 2013 BMW 3 SERIES 133* 4dr Sdn 328i xDrive w/AC , Automatic , Odom: 0


    Payment Details
    Term 36
    Base Payment 383.52
    Total Payment 418.04
    Purchase Option 27,370.35
    MSRP 43,445.00
    Est. Miles Per Year 10,000
    Disposition Fee 250.00
    Excess Mileage Charge 0.20



    Amount Due at Signing

    1st Month Payment 418.04
    Acquisition Fee 725.00
    Total Inception Fees 1,143.04
    Rebate as Cap Reduction 1,000.00
    Total Drive Off 2,143.04

    Total Cash Required on Delivery 1,143.04

    Tax Information
    Customer State: Pennsylvania Customer County: ADAMS
    Type Amount Rate Paid
    Cashdown Tax 65.25 9.0000 Capped
    Monthly Tax 34.52 9.0000 Capped

    Fee Information
    Description Amount Paid
    Temporary Plate Issue Fee 5.00 Capped
    Transfer Fee 6.00 Capped
    Encumbrence Fee 5.00 Capped
    Online Dealer Fee 14.15 Capped
    Online Reg Fee 16.85 Capped
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