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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    Hi,

    If the dealer promises to throw in his/her children, you can be sure they're still making a profit. I bought two BMWs in the last 2 years, and quite honestly, and although I like my salesman and trust him to a certain extent, if he doesn't give me a deal I can feel comfortable with and have no regrets, I will bargain and walk away if I don't like it. I, quite frankly, don't care if the deal costs him his grocery money for 6 months.

    Every sales person is going to tell you that they may lose their job if they sell you the car at the price you're asking (or more often at slightly above that number), but the thing to remember is that the car dealers (with the possible current exception of the "big 3") are not in business to lose money. If you always remember that, you can negotiate from a stronger position.

    They won't run out of cars.

    xeye
  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    Hi Vish,

    My recommendation has two components;

    1) Pay what leaves you with no regrets. The one thing you want to focus on is driving away and sleeping well knowing that you're OK with yourself. It's not easy, and whatever you do, DO NOT RATIONALIZE THE PURCHASE! I think you were in the ballpark last purchase and I did the same. No one can tell you what deal will make you feel good about what you did. It sounds like you know what you're doing.

    Having said all this maudling stuff, my wife and I have a 2008 328xi (her car) and a 2007 335xi (my ride). If you can come up with the $$$ difference and you like zoooom, go for the 335, no doubt at all. If you want a very capable car, still with a ton (& a half) of fun factor, you can't go wrong with the 328. They're both a lot of fun to drive. Both of ours are 6-sp manuals. The real difference is, do you want zoom starting at the low RPM end (335,and it will make you smile every time you nail the pedal), or do you like the zoom as the RPMs climb (Wait! A few more RPMs before the shift point!)?

    Either way, you'll have a great ride. In the long run, especially if you get the 0.9% financing, the difference is lunch at a fancy restaurant. I wouldn't sactifice the BMW fun for a Waldorf salad.

    xeye

    P.S. For me, it's the turbo'd 335. Absolutely no question. But that's me. And I have no citations after ~15,000 miles, although there were one or two occasions...
  • forget about 2008, what if I want to get the same car but in 2009 with fully loaded like the one I described before, then what should be the price for it? the MSRP is 62K
  • red44red44 Posts: 2
    I've called around to a few dealers and the lowest quote I've received is $39,880 for a 2009 328i xdrive for:

    Alpine white
    Premium Package
    Heated Seats
    Ipod Connector

    This is about $1400 above invoice. Is this a good deal or should I hold out for something better? Thanks!
  • red44, where are you located? In the mid-Atlantic area I was able to find a car with similar features (328i with x-drive, premium package, heated seats, metallic paint, steptronic automatic transmission) for 38,800. Basically the same car you're getting but without the i-pod adaptor and with metallic paint. Make sure you go through their internet sales departments, they seem to be better able to negotiate.
  • red44red44 Posts: 2
    Thanks. I'm in the same geographic area. It sounds like I can get a better deal if I shop around a bit more.
  • rorkinrorkin Posts: 10
    Just came back from Annapolis BMW.. Felt like I was being sold a 75 Chevy.
    Manager gave me the "If I give you a good price will you put a deposit down today" line.. Sheesh !!

    Anyway.. they cant find a stick do would be ordering
    2009 325 I Sedan
    Premium Package
    Cold Weather Package
    Logic 7 Radio
    Sirius Radio
    Cash deal
    Metallic paint

    quoted me $38,992.. sticker $40,745
    Can this be bought for appreciably less.. Looks like $1k or so over invoice
    Thanks in advance
  • I just picked up a 2009 335i Coupe from Weatherford BMW in Berkeley (California). Here are the specs:

    * Manual Transmission
    * Premium Package
    * Sports Package
    * 19" Wheels
    * Power Rear Sunshade
    * Heated Front Seats
    * Parking Distance Control
    * iPod/USB Adaptor
    * Navigation
    * Satellite Radio
    * Logic 7 Sound

    Paid: $50,580 (before taxes, license, etc...)

    I actually went in with the intention to special order different color and slightly less options but after taking a closer look at my original color I backed out and went with black/black which, coincidentally, they had 1 MT 335 in stock. It had a couple options I didn't really need, but it was there and the thought of having it that day put me in a state of euphoria. I already have worked out a deal with the sales rep over phone/email for $600 over invoice. But I guess she took advantage of my eagerness and I ended up paying $1100 over invoice. We were actually negotiating relative to invoice and agreed on $800 over, but they tack on this additional $300 internal thing, supposedly for prepping the car, paying their utility bill, and keeping the toilet paper well stocked. I know it's BS, but I decided not to fight that battle. After all they are my neighborhood BMW dealer where I have to take the car in for maintenance and didn't feel like getting nasty with them. Besides - I felt that $1100 over invoice was a fair deal, for a 2009 manual trans in stock (very hard to find MT). Also - when I almost bought one last year, the best deal I was offered was $100 off MSRP.
  • Hey Paul - thanks for replying. I posted a new message with the deal I got.
    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef0f830/9395
  • I am new to BMW car. My local dealer has similar lease on both 08 528i and 335i, with 335i equipped more with Nav. and Xenon headlight. No sport package for both cars.
    Please help me with some advises if I should go for the 335 engine or the 5 series space? Thanks in advance.
  • Polyester 1970,

    Congratulations on your new purchase. I bet black/black is stunning! That would be my first color choice too but I purchased a new black/black Mercedes C350 earlier this year (very nice car but my son ‘borrowed’ the car and won’t give it back :-)), so I am now shopping for a red or white 328 convertible. I think you could probably save a few hundred dollars if you played hard ball but MT is indeed very hard to find and I definitely agree with you not to fight the battle.

    Enjoy your new car!!!

    Paul
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,283
    Please help me with some advises if I should go for the 335 engine or the 5 series space? Thanks in advance.

    It all depends upon your preferences and your needs. Have you driven both cars? If not, you really need to do that before you can make a decision. Do you prefer the extra power of the twin turbo or do you need the added room of the 5er? In my case I wouldn't want either car without the Sport Package, but I'm a track geek. I also don't like big heavy cars, and the 3 Series is almost too porky for my tastes- never mind the 5 Series. That said, it's your money; buy what YOU like...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • xman7xman7 Posts: 10
    It seems easily to get deal at invoice +$500 in my experience. BTW, any one knows if 'Training and MACO $560' comes from BTW to every car on its invoice?
  • I agree with roadburner - it's really based on your needs. If you like the 5 and need that extra room - then go for that. If you like the 3 and the room is enough than go with that! I also agree that BMWs look 100x times better with the sports package (specifically larger rims and low-profile tires - I guess all cars look better this way). And I think when BMW designs these cars they are intended to have larger rims since they are sporty cars. But if you don't particularly care for that sporty look then the non-sports package will accomplish that. But, personally, if I weren't going for the sporty look I would consider MB or Audi as well.

    If you really want my personal opinion, I just bought a 2009 335i Coupe with Sports Package, 19" rims, and a bunch of other stuff. I also liked the 550 a bit, but I felt the car looks better on someone a bit older or taller than me. It was also a bit big for me.

    I think you should definitely get to know the different types of cars BMW has beyond the 2 you mentioned from your local dealer to find out exactly what your style is. 528, 550, M5, 328, 335, M3, Sedan, Coupe, Sports Package, 18" rims, 19" rims, all have a distinct styles, performance and fuel economy. You should get to know that a bit more before you sign up and get stuck for 3 years. And don't worry - you have plenty of time. As soon as these 2008's clear, if they ever do, they'll apply the same incentives to the 2009's. In many cases they already have. So take your time. Spend lots of time on bmwusa.com, bimmerfest.com, spend a couple hours at dealers looking at different combos.

    I didn't get nav in a couple cars I bought in 2004 & 2005 and totally regretted it. My new 335 has nav. BTW the 2009 iDrive has been redesigned and seems to be much nicer than the 2008 in my loaner car.
  • I am being offered the following deal:

    MSRP - $44,345
    Invoice - $40,820 (on Edmunds)
    Dealer price - $41,400

    The dealer is claiming that the invoice price above does not include his MACO/Training fee of $380. He is located in MD. Can anyone confirm this?

    Thanks.
  • xman7xman7 Posts: 10
    that dealer didn't lie to you. Invoice price list on Edmunds doesn't include Training and MACO fee since MACO is location related.
  • rjorge3rjorge3 Posts: 138
    Executive Demo Lease with 10,000mile already
    2008 BMW 335XI
    * Black Sapphire Metallic / Black Leather
    * 300 Horsepower 6-Cylinder Turbocharged Engine, 25 MPG Highway, xDrive All-Wheel-Drive
    * Options include Premium Package, Heated Front Seats, Automatic Transmission, iPod/USB Adapter
    * Free Maintenance for 4 Years / 50,000 Miles
    * Lease for $489/Month for 36 Months with 10,000 Miles per Year
    * $0 Capitalized Cost Reduction
    * Sales Tax and Inception Fees (First Month's Payment, Refundable Security Deposit If Applicable, BMW Acquisition Fee, Motor Vehicle Fees, Dealer Documentation Fee) Due at Signing

    The ad is not from a BMW dealer, but from an independent leasing company.
  • Anyone buy a car from BMW of Tenafly ?? It use to be Difeo BMW but looks like it's been re-named and part of Penske Automotive Group.

    If so, how was your experience ?? Was it legit or a bait-and-switch type of shop ??
  • BD87BD87 Posts: 2
    Hello. Can someone give me some insight for this current lease offer that I have received: (i apologize but this is a cross post)

    This is for a 2008 328xi it was used as a dealer loaner and has approx. 6K miles. the lease term is 36 months, 15K per year

    monaco blue/tan leather
    premium package
    cold weather
    steptronic auto
    ipod

    MSRP: 41,325
    Dealer invoice: 38485 (based on wholesale)
    Offered sale price - 35,325

    money factor - .00130
    residual - 56%

    due at signing: 1500
    monthly payment - 489 (including 7% sales tax)

    i have not yet received the details on any additional charges, i know the destination was quoted at 775 though.

    please let me know your thoughts. thanks in advance
  • Hi,
    I live in Los Angeles, and I'm looking for a 2008 328i sedan with the following options:
    Monaco Blue
    Automatic
    Premium Package
    ipod adapter
    xenon lights (maybe)

    So far i've received quotes of $36370(includes xenon and ipod) which is $445 below invoice but not the color I wanted (bronze platinum) and $35455 (no xenon or ipod) which is $630 below invoice.

    Are these the best or should I negotiate and which one do you think is a better option?
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