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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,147
    1. That's most certainly not true across all dealers.
    2. Even if a dealer did such a thing, that would not exclude negotiating because the salespeople aren't selling units for themselves, they are selling for the dealership management/owner, and it is those folks who need to move units. If they want to move a unit, they will negotiate.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,098
    I agree with Q.

    One sure way to find out, ask them for their "non-negotiable" price. Once you have it, tell them you're just shopping around and plan to see if another BMW dealer is now part of the "non-negotiating" business plan.

    See if they let you walk.
  • Here is what we were offered:
    MSRP: $49,795
    Sale price: $49,000
    Customer cash: $4,751.99 (includes adv payment, upfront charges of $3,161.51 and total cap reduction of $2,756.30
    Total rebates: $1,750
    (Since we are looking at leasing another BMW, they offered to take another $750 off, which is not included below)

    36 months/15,000 miles

    $584.18 a month

    Options include:
    Cold weather
    Drivers assistance
    Lighting
    Walnut
    Navigation

    Thoughts???

    We would greatly appreciate your advice as this would be our first lease.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 780
    You will definitely make the salesman's Christmas card list if you take that deal...

    Go back through this discussion and you'll see that others have gotten $3k plus rebates off the MSRP. Wait until the first MLB pitch and the prices on xi models will drop further.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,643
    I agree with Vinny.. $800 off?

    I'm guessing if you see all the figures, they are marking up the money factor and the acquisition fee as well..

    Might have an easy $2500-$3000 of total cost to take off that deal..

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  • seanh2oseanh2o Posts: 27
    First of all, thanks to all who have posted. The discussions were really helpful. I have been shopping around for 3 and found that most dealers are willing to offer at invoice in addition to cash back incentives (1k for financing with BMW and 750 for loyalty). However, what I am concerned is that the MF is 0.0013, which is over 3%. Comparing to others, it seems pretty high. Did BMW MF ever go close to 1%? I'd like to know if this is really the best time to lease one.

    Thanks!
  • narjissenarjisse Posts: 2
    MSRP: $47095

    So Your Purchase Price is: $44800 ?
    ($2300 off of MSRP is a good deal.)
    - $1000 USAA discount
    - $1000 finance incentive
    Total = $42800

    *
    weather mats = rubber mats from BMW for free?
  • narjissenarjisse Posts: 2
    edited March 2013
    dealer offered you $4500 off of MSRP? I think this is a very goooood deal.
    I am in NY and looking to buy 328i xDrive, too. Can you tell me where you got this deal?
  • I am looking to buy 2013 328i xDrive in PA and below is the price I got from dealer.
    Wanted to check if its a good deal or I can negotiate further.
    This is first time I am buying a BMW.

    MSRP: $43,445
    Sale price: $40,795
    Total Rebates: $1000.00

    Base Monthly payment : 458.61
    Tax : 41.27
    Monthly Payment: 499.88
    term : 36 months

    Residual Amount: $27370.35
    Money factor/rate: 0.00135
    Mileage Program : 10,000

    Advance Paments: $499.88
    Upfront Charges: $550.93
    Total Cap Reduction: $1,149.19 (I didn't understand whats this. Can someone tell me whats this?)
    Due on Deliver : $1200

    Car has heated front seats,navigation,moon roof, BMW Asst with USB

    Thanks in advance!
  • insidecarbuyinsidecarbuy NYCPosts: 95
    Some dealers configurer deals different ways. He should have just structured it first month and bank fee out of pocket and it would have come out to $1,143.04 plues DMV. With that being said on a car with that MSRP you should have a monthly payment of $418.04. Doesn't look like he is giving you such a great deal. See the details of what the deal should look like below... Good Luck!

    CUSTOMER DISCLOSURE

    Customer Name: Inside Car Buying, LLC
    Sale Vehicle: New 2013 BMW 3 SERIES 133* 4dr Sdn 328i xDrive w/AC , Automatic , Odom: 0


    Payment Details
    Term 36
    Base Payment 383.52
    Total Payment 418.04
    Purchase Option 27,370.35
    MSRP 43,445.00
    Est. Miles Per Year 10,000
    Disposition Fee 250.00
    Excess Mileage Charge 0.20



    Amount Due at Signing

    1st Month Payment 418.04
    Acquisition Fee 725.00
    Total Inception Fees 1,143.04
    Rebate as Cap Reduction 1,000.00
    Total Drive Off 2,143.04

    Total Cash Required on Delivery 1,143.04

    Tax Information
    Customer State: Pennsylvania Customer County: ADAMS
    Type Amount Rate Paid
    Cashdown Tax 65.25 9.0000 Capped
    Monthly Tax 34.52 9.0000 Capped

    Fee Information
    Description Amount Paid
    Temporary Plate Issue Fee 5.00 Capped
    Transfer Fee 6.00 Capped
    Encumbrence Fee 5.00 Capped
    Online Dealer Fee 14.15 Capped
    Online Reg Fee 16.85 Capped
  • Thanks for the below. I tried to negotiate and dealer is not ready to come under $489. There is a big difference with what you have mentioned.
    Any dealers you suggest I should check with?
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Total Cap Reduction: $1,149.19 (I didn't understand whats this. Can someone tell me whats this?)

    To be honest here if you do not understand leases DO NOT LEASE.... There are many articles on Edmunds in regards to leasing, what it is, and the lingo that goes with it.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,098
    edited March 2013
    As flightnurse said, before going into any lease deal, start here....

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/quick-guide-to-leasing-a-new-car.html

    In brief, cap cost reduction is a down payment on a lease.

    And, to compare apples to apples, insidecarbuy is quoting over $1,000 more out of pocket than your dealer to get a lower monthly, too.

    Not saying his deal is good or bad, nor if your dealer's is good or bad. Leases can get crazy. It's important to compare everything, from Cap Cost, to residuals, to money factor, to mileage restrictions, etc, etc.

    Good luck!
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 764
    yes, I believe so. My lease on my 2011 328 coupe is up in Sept and I had a message from the dealer the other night wanting to 'talk about my options'.

    I haven't returned the call yet. Does anyone have a concrete date when the 4 series will hit the lots? I am not inclined to get another coupe that looks just like the one I have. Not sure if I want to pony up the extra $ to stay with the lovely I-6 and move to a 335. I'll take a look at the sedan but if I am going the turbo 4 route I will definitely cross shop the A4. A5 is out as the roof only pops up not slide back and silly as it may sound thats a big deal to me.

    I'd consider a 'vert 3 or A5. Significantly more $ I know and to be honest I like the look of the A5 'vert better than the current 3 but thats probably just my eyes looking for something different in the garage. I've never been one to buy the same make back to back much less the same model so this will be interesting!!

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,098
    The BMW 4 series is the successor to the E92 3 Series coupe, which is still on dealer's lots. From the pictures, it looks substantially different than the current 3 Coupe.

    That said, the A5 is GORGEOUS, IMHO! Didn't know that about the sunroof, though. I thought it opened all the way. Sounds like the sunroof in the Caddy CTS Coupe, as it only tilts because of the roofline.

    You really can't go wrong with either the BMW or the Audi. Drive both and decide.

    BTW....if you get the opportunity, drive an Audi S4. I think it's the best car Audi currently produces.
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 764
    thanks GG. I think the 4 series is pretty sharp from the pics I have seen. Definitely a totally different vehicle from what I have now, which I have thoroughly enjoyed btw.

    Agree on the A5. Styling is obviously subjective but I think that is one of the best looking cars on the road at any $ amount. If only that roof slid back it would be a no brainer!

    S4 would be awesome. I would like to try to keep the next vehicle under 45k which I couldn't do with an S4 or a convertible BMW or Audi.

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

  • bmulder1bmulder1 Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    I am new to this forum and pretty inexperienced in leasing cars. I am interested in doing a European Delivery on a 328i lease, 36 mos/12k year. Base MSRP is $36,850 - total with options is $44,970. My understanding is that BMW will give 7% discount on the base MSRP, not the options and that destination handling fee is waived. I am willing to put $5k down. Sales tax in NJ is 7%. Does anyone know what my total monthly payments should be? I am getting some quotes that are all over the place..

    Thx.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    BMW has some incredible deals right now on the coupe and convertible as they want to move them out before the 4 series arrive. A friend of mine in Atlanta just leased a 2013 335i convertible fully loaded there is 2350 cash back on them right now, and the MF is pretty low with a high residual, so this makes a perfect combo..

    I love the A5, however for the price, I think the a 4 cyl isn't right engine..
  • I am not a very experienced in leasing. But thanks to friends on this forum one thing I learnt is we shouldn't do any down payment in lease. Instead security deposit is an option in which your lease per month will come down and will get money back at end of lease.
  • fer1fer1 Posts: 8
    Hello Everybody,

    I'm trying to lease a 328i (manual, metallic paint, HK & BMW assist); MSRP 39,820.
    Every dealer in So. Fl. is charging a "Dealer Fee" around $599-699 and the discount I'm getting is around 1200-1500 (rebates are on top of these ones).

    They are very firm about Dealer Fees so I'm trying to increase the discount, what would be a reasonable value? (invoice seems to be 3k below MSRP)

    And also if a negotiate a good deal, and we order the car (manual gear is a killer here), what happens if when they are ready for delivery conditions are better (residual, money factors or rebates), do they usually honor them?

    Thanks in advance.
    Regards,
    Fernando
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