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2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    I think it is just that one dealer.. I'm not sure how they do it.. But, if you go looking for that deal in other places, I think you'll come away disappointed.......

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  • They have it listed at 31,995. I got out of the very new salesman that the car has been on the lot since June. When I asked him about the car's history, he told me that they bought it from BMW USA, so it was a corporate car. To me that means the probably got it pretty cheap (relatively speaking).

    I offered 28,000 for it, and the lowest they would go is 31,000 (after several trips to the managers office). Obviously I just walked out.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    It sounds like a nice one, but ANY '03 325i should be under $30K by now...

    I didn't buy mine CPO, but there was one at a dealer in Dayton back in December.. almost the same exact equipment.. BMWNA car, CPO as well.. It was offered to me for $31K even.. That was 9 months ago... I think $28K was a fair offer, and I'm surprised that didn't bring a counter offer under $30K.. Oh well... lots of cars out there...

    Good luck!
    kyfdx

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    BMWNA sells those corporate cars at a closed dealer auction.. They aren't necessarily all that cheap, but they are some of the nicer units you'll find.... that is where my car came from as well... Atlanta auction..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • Thanks for the feedback.

    I've done a fair bit of homework on these cars, but when they acted like I was trying to steal it from them, I started to second guess myself.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    Yeah.. I've gotten that, also... I had a salesman at the local dealer actually refuse to take an offer below asking price on a CPO Z4.

    My local BMW dealers sometimes have cars for months and months.. Maybe they think they just look good sitting out front... I don't get it, and I try to be realistic about price..

    But, I could be wrong..

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  • I did the very same thing this week with Autobahn on a 2005 -- and, like you, had a hard time believing in the price (perhaps being in Houston with its overly high prices have something to do with it) -- but it does look legit to me as well --

    I am trusting that nothing fishy happens -- let me know if it does -- and I'll do the same
  • Im interested in buying a 2004 325xi or 330xi. Does anyone know if the dealer incentives apply to xis?

    Also are there ever any incentives in the first few months of a new model year (ie 2005)? (in case I decide to wait).
  • richzrichz Posts: 135
    Storm, the incentives do apply to the xis because I was negotiating with a dealer this past week on a 2004 330xi. They did try to pull a fast one on me at first by quoting me a price of 41,000 on a MSRP 43,000 car. I just looked at him funny and the salesman went back and said oh my manager didn't know about the rebates...yeah, right.
  • richzrichz Posts: 135
    Also, did you actually find any 04 325xis and 330xis with dealers? If you did, where are you located because I checked every dealer in the metro Detroit area and the 325xis have been long gone.
  • paulepaule Posts: 382
    I'm not finding any incentives on 2005 325xi's. I actually just ordered one today. After getting screwed around by one dealer (tacked on $500 at the last minute for doc fees and the like), I went to his competitor across town who honored his word. I ended up ordering the car exactly as I wanted it for $1,040 over invoice (including drive off plate and their doc fees). That was definitely the best deal I was going to get. I was working (requested quotes from) 8 different dealers.
  • I just bought a 2003 325i Certified Pre-Owned for 27500 with only 4,500 miles.

    Premium Pkg
    Metallic
    Auto
    Leather

    I had seen a bunch of these BMW employee cars that had been newly marketed. Fully loaded cars and great drive. The only question in my mind was how hard had the car been driven in their possession.....

    In essence, 27.5k is what I paid for my car which was Certified. If you shop around, you should easily get this car for around 28k as long as you are willing to drive to pick it up.

    Good hunting.

    Anthony
  • BMW 325i with black leather seats ($1,450); Premium Package ($3,100); Sport package ($1,400); Automatic ($1,275); Xenon Lights ($700); Harmon Kardon Sound System ($675).

    Dealer offered lease of: $2000.00 cash down; $580.00 Total Monthly payment (includes tax and interest factor).

    Lease term is: 36 months; 15,000 miles per year.

    I would like to offer:

    No money down; $550.00 per month for 36 months. Help!!
  • desi1desi1 Posts: 40
    Hello,

    Can you tell me that after i have verbally agreed on a monthly payment, upfront/out the door amount, and the term, what other things should I check for before I sign the contract?

    The items disclosed to me so far when calculating monthly payment are MSRP, Cap Cost, Residual %, MF, Terms, Bank Fee, and State Tax.

    The items disclosed to me when calculating the upfront/out the door amount are 1st month's payment, security deposit, bank fee, and Title & Plates.

    Also, I am aware of a disposition fee at the end of the term.

    I have seen the MACO charge come up a few times in this forum. What is that?

    Besides these items, what things could pop up before or right after I sign the contact? Are there any other charges that I should expect to pay? Also, is there a checklist that I should follow when inspecting the car before taking the delivery?

    I truly appreciate your help.

    Thank you,

    SS
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    Once you have agreed on a price and payment, MACO shouldn't come up.. That is a regional advertising fee that the dealer pays.. It is on the invoice, but unless you are agreeing to a certain price over invoice, it is irrelevant.

    Some dealers will try to slip in extra fees (document fees, dealer prep, etc).. These are just profit padders.. Small doc fees of under $50, I usually let go, but if it is anything more than that, it should be disclosed during negotiations... Make it clear that your offer is based on an "out the door" price, and that you don't want any surprises in the finance office.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • desi1desi1 Posts: 40
    Thank you kyfdx.

    What are the things that I should check for when inspecting the car, of course, besides the usual inspection for scratches, odometer reading, VIN # (to match the contract), and the in-service date?

    Thank you,

    SS
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    Boy... I'm not the best at giving advice on picking up the car.. I miss stuff all the time..

    The in-service date should be the day you take delivery, if you are buying a new car.

    Take it for a test drive... Pay particular attention to tire pressure issues. Many cars are delivered with highly over-inflated tires. They should have a pre-delivery checklist that the mechanic fills out, stating everything he has checked..

    Obviously, a visual inspection of the entire car.. Don't pick it up at night.. and take your time.

    And last.. ask someone else for advice on this.. Like I said, I'm terrible at it..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • Mitc & Murray,
    Sorry I have not responded sooner to your question about the new 04 325i base cars, I have been off the site since I have been out driving my brand new car and loving it. I found several base 325i's and I was looking for a manual although if you are looking for an automatic,there are some still out there too. I paid 26,700 with matts, prep, etc. That was my final cost and I got the 2.9% financing. I know that some people have been able to get the 1.9% but when you are getting a car for less than a grand above invoice, there comes a time when you can only do so much. Good luck, I have found cars in Atlanta, Roswel, and through an auto broker here in Chattanooga. Good Luck
  • Thanks, Courtney. Enjoy your new car.

    -M&M
  • I am looking to buy a base 325i Automatic, no other options for a good price. I was wondering if this configuration would hurt the resale value say 3-4 years down the road? Are they so rare that no one would want it?

    There is another one with Xenon and Moonroof, which is at the limit of my budget, but dont really need those.

    Any advice on which to get?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,169
    You probably won't find a car without a moonroof.. In fact, the '05s have the moonroof standard..

    So, the one with Xenon is within $700 of the lowest priced car you will find.. If you can get a really good deal, that is the way I would go...

    The auto and the moonroof are the two most important options, as far as resale value... But, you will be competing with better optioned cars, when it comes time to sell...

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • cartalkcartalk Posts: 134
    If you don't mind traveling to your neighboring state, one of the local dealers has three remaining '04 325i's listed with auto and moonroof. Two are silver (added metallic paint option) and one is white. All three are sedans; no coupes are left. Another has an auto/moonroof sedan in black and the third has a manual/moonroof sedan in black ($29,845 MSRP).
  • cartalkcartalk Posts: 134
    Local dealer's here have the following '04 325i's that are close to base cars:

    Dealer 1 - 3 auto/moonroof sedans. Two are silver (added metallic paint option) and one is white.

    Dealer 2 - 1 auto/moonroof sedan in black (MSRP $31,120); 1 manual/moonroof coupe in black (MSRP $32,245).

    Dealer 3 - 1 manual/moonroof sedan in black ($29,845 MSRP).
  • Thanks kyfdx and cartalk !!
  • cartalk,

    what neighbouring state are you talking about?

    Thanks,
    Mitch&Murray
  • cartalkcartalk Posts: 134
    Arizona (Phoenix area).
  • How much under/over invoice would a really good deal be on these base 325's considering the 1,500 mktg incentive?
  • You can see my posts within the last few weeks for more details, but I have purchased two cars as follows few weeks ago:

    '04 325i sedan, auto, moonroof, metallic paint $ 26,988 before sales tax and license

    '04 325i sedan, auto, moonroof, metallic paint, and xenons $ 27,500 before sales tax and license

    McKenna BMW in Norwalk, CA. . Last weekend in the Los Angeles Times they were still advertising cars with auto and moonroof at $ 26,988
  • How much under/over invoice would a really good deal be on these base 325's considering the 1,500 mktg incentive?
  • Hi everyone. New to this group. I'm in the process of shopping for an 04 325i in Los Angeles.

    Just got quoted $28850 for a metallic silver 04 sedan, automatic, with moonroof and %1.9 financing. Is this a good deal considering the $1500 incentives? It seems to fall in line with Edmunds TMV.

    Are there any secret/frivilous costs I should be on the lookout for?

    Thanks again.
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