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2013 and earlier - BMW 5 Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Hi All,

    I'm in the market for new BMW 528i / 535i, and here is best quote I've received so far. Would like to get the experts' opinion, on if this is a decent price.

    2010 - 528i - Space Gray with Gray interior - Cold weather package - Premium package - Value package - comfort access - split fold down rear seat - xenon head lights- navigation - satellite radio
    MSRP = $53,195
    Carsdirect = $44,810
    Offer at $44,500

    2010 - 535i - Space gray with cream beige - Premium - Sport package - value package - comfort access - navigation - satellite radio
    MSRP = $60,345
    Carsdirect = $50,190
    Offer @ $48,000

    Couple of additional questions
    - Documentation fee is about $599.. What do you think is the reasonable fee in Georgia ?
    - This will be my first time buying a BMW.. Should I go for 528i or 535i ?

    Thanks,
    ST.
  • please ignore my previous message, as I've made error in the numbers..
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    Hi All,

    I'm in the market for new BMW 528i / 535i, and here is best quote I've received so far. Would like to get the experts' opinion, on if this is a decent price.

    2010 - 528i - Space Gray with Gray interior - Cold weather package - Premium package - Value package - comfort access - split fold down rear seat - xenon head lights- navigation - satellite radio
    MSRP = $53,195
    Carsdirect = $44,810
    Offer at $44,500

    2010 - 535i - Space gray with cream beige - Premium - Sport package - value package - comfort access - navigation - satellite radio
    MSRP = $60,345
    Carsdirect = $50,190
    Offer $50,000

    Couple of additional questions
    - Documentation fee is about $599.. What do you think is the reasonable fee in Georgia ?
    - This will be my first time buying a BMW.. Should I go for 528i or 535i ?

    Thanks,
    ST.
  • Doc fee is ok.......

    There is one 535i in Roswell area which MSRP 56,920K which advertise to sell for 48K.

    I believe you can knock down 2K for the 535I.

    I bought 335I 2009 for 37K (MSRP 51K) in Feb 2010.
    doc fee is 349 in Athen.

    The stragegy is to negotiate through email before you come in the dealer. Come to dealer is a waste of time. You have time to work on the deal until April 30 which the incentive expired
  • I forgot to mention there is a hold back $1367

    So basicly....negotiate on 47K up to 48k..+ doc fee + 6% tax + 41 ($3 lemon + $18 registration + $20 title)
  • Thanks for your input..

    Yes, I did look at the one in Roswell, and his best offer seems to be $48,925 (might go to $48K0, and it doesn't have sport package.

    Any thoughts on 528i offer
    - MSRP $53,195, so far I negotiated it down to $44,500 on the sales price, but I'm still negotiating on doc fee
    - This particular car is not on his lot, and needs to come from some where in west coast.

    Appreciate your feedback.

    Thanks.
  • You can not negotiate on the doc fee but you can knock down the price of the car which is equal to doc fee. That is the trick.....because all the doc fee is preprint on the sale document.

    The 528i offer is still high. I think you can lower your offer to 42.5K to 43K + doc fee. Remember, 2011 model is on the parking lot so time is more flavoravle on your side than the dealer.

    GA economy is very weak with 10.5 unemployment rate. I don't see a lot of business activities going on and you see a lot of commercial Lease sign posted up.

    Which dealer are you working on?

    Remember every penny to save is good. Dealer are trying to make much profit from you as possible.

    Doc fee is actually their profit and split between the salesman and their manager....and that does not counting into others profit like car options, holdback and incentives for sell more cars from the manufactures...

    I hope that helps....
  • Thanks doanmquang for your input.

    I thought carsdirect (target price) was the price to beat. So when the dealer agreed for $44.5 (few hundred dollars below target price), I thought it was a decent price. Some how I missed to include dealer holdback of $1367 ...

    Dealer I'm working with is Nalley's BMW.
  • smithsongasmithsonga Posts: 123
    try www.truecar.com to find the true cost of the specific car w/ options.

    I optioned a 528i to $53,170 MSRP and it says the true cost is $43,211. so they are still making $1,300.
  • Of course, the dealer will alway make profit. The profit amount is usually depend on the buyer behavior and knowledge. They can still can earn on the profit on your finance and trading in.....

    Truescar.com site which I used as a price guide and I know I can beat their target price easily...depend on end of the month or first day of the month.....

    As I know there are less and less buyers in the market.....so BMW give their $$ for marketing support and Loyal Customer..... and .09 percent for 24 months...etc....

    Just keep your options open and negotiate with several dealers at the same time....
    Once the price is confirm.....let them know get the paper work done and wash the car for you to pick it up....

    I walk out the dealer with the car and all paper work done in 30 minutes...no waiting.....
  • Just bought my 528xi (space gray ext, black int, value, premium, xenon) in the Chicago area - $42,256.00(carsdirect) + $155.00 (doc fee). Had to also pay $300.00 more to turn in my 2007 328xi lease 3 months ahead of time.

    Good deals with the remaining 2010 models these days....I was thinking of a late model CPO in the beginning, but decided with a new one, given the deals around...
  • greg777greg777 Posts: 9
    There is a lot of good feedback on pricing already, but not much on the 528 vs. 535 issue. After all, if you get a slightly better deal on the wrong car, it really is not such a great deal.

    Regarding the 528 vs. 535 – I believe the engines are really the same displacement (the numbers used to indicate the engine size, but BMW did away with that long ago) so a 528 is not necessarily 2.8 liters, a 535 is most definitely NOT 3.5 liters, etc.)

    Both are fine engines – BMW is still the champ of inline 6 engines – which are inherently balanced engines as opposed to V6s which require balance shafts to run smoothly.

    So either mode, the 528 or 535 is a fine car, it’s just a matter of what you want. The 535, with its 300 h.p. and 300 foot pounds of torque is an absolute jewel of en engine. Much better than the high performance 540i of just a few years ago. That said, it is a powerful engine. If you like to accelerate really quickly and drive on a track, buy a 535. For many, a 528 has all the power you will ever need. Especially if your motoring is limited to the traffic clogged roads (like in Atlanta, for example). Then, the 528 saves you quite a bit of $, and won’t make much different. For me, I instruct at high speed driving schools and track events with the BMW club, so I would by the 535 all day long. But that is not relevant to you – the question is how YOU drive.

    If in doubt, drive both models, not just around the block, but really drive them. Accelerate both at full throttle to see just what the difference is. If you find the faster acceleration worth it, buy a 535. If you find the 528 more than adequate, buy a 528 and save yourself some hard earned cash. There is no right answer overall, but there is a right answer for you.
  • smithsongasmithsonga Posts: 123
    this is good advice. We chose the 528i over the 535i as it just wasnt worth, at the time, $100/month.

    That said, once my 528i lease was up , we purchased a CPO 550i. :blush:
  • Hi smthsonga,

    Appreciate your input greatly... Yes, I'm a casual driver, bassically will be using it to commute to work (Atlanta roads :-) and the occasional road trips with the family. I've driven both around the block and high way. As you indicated, 535i drives much better, and I think 528i is totally adequate for what I'd need.

    Thanks again.
  • tocheer4tocheer4 Posts: 9
    If you can, go for 535. Especially after one or two years of driving, you will feel the difference. I had 525 before. When it is a brand new car, you do not feel much difference. Then a year later, I feel sorry that I did not got 535. Then two years ago, I got 535, it is not disappointed at least for two some years now.
  • joe24joe24 Posts: 12
    It was in NJ. BMW of Tenafly gave me a price of $42.8K for 528XI that was MRSP of about $51,900. Most of the other dealers were around the cars direct price of $43.5. From what I've seen you can get $700 below cars direct if its on their lot and about $300 if they need to procure it from another dealer.

    I got the 535 Xi. After driving both, it was close. I used to drive a G35 and the 528 didnt have enough power. Given all the discounts, It made sense to get the 535.
  • shyamyshyamy Posts: 23
    edited May 2010
    Hi,

    I got an offer for a 2008 CPO 535xi for $36,000. It has 34,000 miles on it. Is it a good deal?or is it on the higher side compared to other similar ones?

    Any help appreciated..If you need more details, let me know and I'll check with the dealer. Thanks!
  • phylpphylp Posts: 49
    shyamy, yes, without more info it is hard to compare. But, without more info, maybe the price is somewhat high at this point in the 2010-2011 model year.

    I purchased a certified 2008 BMW 535i in October 2009, with 26,000 miles, for a couple thousand dollars more than what you have been quoted. I thought the price was fair then and now. The dealer also "threw in" a new set of tires, a year of Sirius radio, and two sets of new floor mats (one carpeted and one rubber). I valued those concessions as being part of the deal and made an allowance of $1000. I also got the color I wanted, the great comfort seats, and the previous drivers were non-smokers (it was a demo).

    Happy hunting.
  • shyamyshyamy Posts: 23
    Thanks phylp.

    I guess your deal is much better. I'll not be taking this one up right now..Looking for more options. Thanks for the advise.
  • 1stbmw51stbmw5 Posts: 2
    has nav and prem pkg. modular seats. XM radio. bmw of sudbury, MA. traded in 1997 camry for 1.6k for a net of 44k. good deal?
    dealer also sold wheels/tire plan for 1300$/5 yrs and 10yr/110k mile ex warranty for 4700$. is that a good price?
    thanks
  • Firebird_EOUFirebird_EOU Posts: 250
    Tire plan is expensive.

    http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Owner/BMWUltimateProtection/TireandWheelP- rotection.aspx

    I have not heard of 10 years. With below you can buy it before your 4 years/50k miles is up. What happens if your car is totaled or stolen in the first year? Do you lose that $4,700??

    http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Owner/BMWUltimateProtection/ExtendedVehic- leProtection.aspx
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