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2013 and earlier - BMW 5 Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    edited June 2010
    Considering a 2011 528- Edmunds MSRP $53,175 Edmonds invoice $48,915. Since
    the car is new Edmunds has no "what others are paying".
    Any insight on how much of a discount from MSRP ( forget all other dealer tack on's)
    can be negotiated ? I can buy in NY or CT. Any recommendations for dealers who will
    give the best deals.
  • drgumsdrgums Posts: 51
    I have been a loyal BMW customer for over 25 years. My 535i 2009 has had 2 dangerous "engine failures" while traveling at cruising speeds on major highways and bridges. The first repair was considered a" fuel pump defect." I was lucky not to be hurt in that first engine failure. However , the same thing happened again last week on the George Washington Bridge traveling in the left lane at 65 miles per hour. Luckily, I was able to move to the right lane and put my blinkers on going 15 miles an hour. Fortunately, there were no cars/ tracker trailers on my tail.
    The dealer has been very good with maintenance, however they suggested that I see if it happens again for the third time, and I said " not anymore". My safety and my familiy's safety is on the line here....I received my 328 loaner and called BMW of North America explaining the situation. It seems they know about this problem and I hope they will work this out with me to get me out of this dangerous car and re lease another one without these issues. Funny...I really liked my 2009 535i with a 6 speed etc....I hope to get another one. Maybe customer loyalty will really mean something here?
  • nsoltznsoltz Posts: 6
    Pace BMW in Mamaroneck or Greenwich BMW (same ownership and shared inventory) are the best. Just go in, offer them invoice (which includes training and maco) + $500. Tell them you do not want the $299 window etching which they seem to do on every vehicle. You will most likely get $1000 over invoice.
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    I bought my 2007 530i at Greenwich BMW, I'm not really sure I got a great deal, but the car was exactly what I was looking for and then some, so I was satisfied.
    I'm amazed at some of the comments, some dealers calling to make sure everything is OK after the deal.......wow, I never had that. Maybe I got a survey via email from BMW, that's it. And sales crap. Never a personal phone call. I had it serviced at 30K miles at Darien BMW which is where I got my two previous vehicles, and it was wonderful to walk out of there and not pay a cent for the service.
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    Could this be a problem with the twin turbos? Isn't that a new engine for BMW? I saw a beautiful 2008 535i at Bridgeport CT BMW that was sitting on the lot for about 3 months but I passed, because I just had doubts about those turbos. I went with the 530i, standard in line 6 cylinder and I love it.
  • drgumsdrgums Posts: 51
    edited June 2010
    As much as I love my 2009 535i 6 speed, this is a MAJOR problem for this car.
    Apparently, I am finding out now that many owners of the twin turbo engines have had fuel pump issues. When this happens to you on the road, it is very scary and can be life threatening. Good Luck and smart driving kept me out of the hospital. It has happened twice and you know the phrase " three strikes and your out! "

    I am not taking anymore chances. Buyers beware of this potential issue.
  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    Thank you nsoltz, I will check out Pace. Anyone have input on CT BMW dealerships
    and pricing ? Also, I notice all the 2011 5 Series have run flat tires. In the past I saw some bad reports on the tires, poor milage and ride and cracked rims. Are the tires/rims improved ? Or reports a minority of owners ?
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    carbird,
    I bought two 3 series at Darien BMW and one 5 series last year at Greenwich. I like the service Dept at Darien, I've built up a good relationship with the service tech and I trust them. Listen, they all want to make money. Try them out both and good luck. Also try Bridgeport BMW, they have a huge inventory.
    I've never had any serious issues with my cars, thank goodness. But then, I stick with basic vehicles, I don't go for the real high tech stuff (twin turbos, etc.)

    Re RFTires. I have them on my 530i, with sports pkg. I'm not sophisticated enough about the technicalities, but I've had no probs whatsoever with them. You cannot take one or two negative comments to mean that the class of tire is no good. Take the advice with a grain of salt.
  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    Thank you gardis, I will try your suggestions. I have decided to buy an XI 528 and noticed that Edmunds does not have MSRP or Invoice for this model. I found the numbers on a Yahoo cars site. 528 xi MSRP 48,250 Invoice 44,390 , plus options.
    Any other site I missed with accurate MSRP/Invoice pricing ??

    Also hope someone will reply about the run flat tires. The base 528ix comes with 17"
    run flat tires, no spare. 17" ok for a basic driver ???
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,416
    Drgums - it seems you've experienced the dreaded hpfp (high performace fuel pump) failure, not once, but twice. This is not only a major problem, but a well known problem. People are having their cars bought back & even leases bought out. Check out the 335i board here on edmunds & bimmerfest.

    I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Let us know what you get next. Keep us informed of your dealings with BMW.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Firebird_EOUFirebird_EOU Posts: 250
    if it's out of warranty? Does that mean we should get the extended warranty if we are keeping the car to 100k miles and beyond? Is the fuel pump redesigned for 2011 model?
  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    In closely reviewing the 528 specs I see the standard wheels and tires are 17" with 225/55 run flat tires. I think 17" is too small. Does anyone have experience with optioning 18" wheels when purchasing a 528 ( or 3 series) ? And the upgrade price ? I don't see this option offered in the specs and would like some knowledge when visiting dealers.

    Also comments on run flat tires. In the past they were disliked by BMW owners due mainly to wear and rough ride.
  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    Gardis, sorry I missed your comments on the run RFT's. Thank you. Any knowledge about upgrading wheel size from 17" to 18 ? My previous message. Your past input is appreciated.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,687
    It looks like the 18" are only available with the Sport Package ($2200)..

    But, you should check with a dealer.. sometimes, there are options available on ordered cars that don't show up on-line.... I would guess that if 18" were an option from the factory, they would be around $800-$900.. As a dealer accessory, probably $2000.

    Why do you consider the 17" too small? Looks?

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  • carbirdcarbird Posts: 12
    Thank you kyfdx, yes I worried the car will look goofy ( for want of a better word). I have an A4 with 17" wheels they look just right , on a larger car I don't know . The dealer lots I have looked on are wiped out of 528's
    and I see only 18" and larger wheels. $800 upgrade would be ok as I don't need the sport option. Going to check out dealers tomorrow. Any further info is helpful.

    Guess everyone thinks RFT are ok.
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    Carbird,
    I have 19" sport rims on my 530i (2007) as measured from outer edge of rim straight across to outer edge (is that how you measure them?). They come with the sport package. If you get a basic 528, you will get basic rims, I don't know what size they are. The BMW rims are very very expensive, can easily cost over $2000 for a full set of 4, depending on the style. Go to BMW USA.com and you can check them out.
    I asked about that one time when I was looking at a 530XI which for some reason, had Sports pkg, but the standard 5 series rims (which I don't happen to care for).
    I don't know what they are talking about the "$800 upgrade" those sport rims are almost $800 EACH. Very expensive. Unless you go to after market rims, then that is something else. Let me know how you make out..........good luck.
  • lhn5lhn5 Posts: 37
    edited June 2010
    Do you mean that the 535i are available now but the 528 wont ship until after the summer? If considering both how would you choose between the two? Also...if ventilated seats are important to me, how can i figure out the minimum other features are required to get that?
  • subenriesubenrie Posts: 5
    I got one 528 xi yesterday, got 6k on it. with premium pkg, Navigation , MSRP was 51,800

    I paid $40,900 for it,, is it a good deal?

    I'm pretty happy with the price. I just hate the rust on the brake, anybody knows how to clean it up?

    thanks
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    I had the same problem with my 2007 530i, nothing really you can do about it. After awhile you don't notice it. I called it to the attention of the dealer but they said it was normal. I had rusting on the lugnuts, but they changed those right away for me.
    I haven't even noticed it lately.
  • x021627x021627 Posts: 148
    Are you saying the 2011 528xi will now have RFT? I own a 2008 and the RFT were not standard. I live in NJ and with the roads not being the best with potholes from the winter especially, this is a negative for me. I have a friend who has the 18" RFT on this 2008 335 and he is on tire #8. He's more than happy he got the tire insurance, but there is no give in the RFT's and when hitting a pothole, well........

    I wonder if previously the non AWD 528's had the run flats. Does anyone know for sure? I haven't seen the specs on the 528 x-drive online. I heard you can order them from the dealer for Sept. delivery. My lease is up in Feb. 2011. :shades:
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