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Honda Accord 2000 brakes maintainance

tgozdalski1tgozdalski1 Posts: 34
edited March 10 in Honda
we own 2000 accord lx 5 speed. Right now we have 85,000 miles on odometer. The only problematic area with the car so far had been front brakes. At about 45,000 miles the new pads had been replaced by a local garage. Before replacement I could feel a little of vibrations coming from the wheels under hard braking. The garage replaced pads and turned the rotors. After about 2-3,000 miles the vibration returned. I had the same mechanic turned the rotors once again which fixed the problem for about 10,000. Today I bought a set of new rotors at $60 each at Auto Zone and new metallic pads and replaced them myself. The job was relatively easy. The only problem I had was to find torque specs for a caliper holding bolts. If anybody knows them could you please let me know?
I considered purchasing performance rotors and pads, but almost all of them require at least 16" rims. Did somebody find performance rotors, drilled or slotted, for standard 15" sized rims?


  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    I'd say it's a miracle, considering pad materials used now. Typical brake rotor warpage due to heat - no big deal. Relax. Your mechanic didn't do a good job of turning the rotors. He didn't cut them deep enough, or should have replaced them.

    Sport Compact Car magazine has several advertisers that show slotted and/or cross-drilled rotors in stock size for the Accord.
  • with the warpage occuring again so soon I would be suspect of a sticking slider pin. the grease in the slider hole sort of turns to glue after being heated and cooled so many times. I clean and lube the pins and holes at each pad replacement with a high temp grease. another problem I have had with the aftermarket pads is that they may fit to tight in the pad holder and drag a little, because they won't release fully. I will say that I have had great luck with Wagner Thermal Quiet, about 1/2 the cost of OEM and no glazing or excessive dusting. seems to be the right compound. the aftermarket pads that are 'lifetime' may be to hard of a compound for the rotor and cause problems. best of luck I hope this helps you.
  • zueslewis,
    I consider myself a relaxed person, I just asked for advice. My type of driving is 90% highway in a low traffic conditions. I hardly use my brakes. Also most auto magazines in their accord reviews estimate front brake life span at about 70,000 miles. hondadude, thanks for advice. I did purchase lifetime warranty metallic pads this time. I hope they will last another year until we trade in for 2003 ex 5 speed. Anybody with the repair manual can tell me torque values for caliper bolts?
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    because the auto magazines, and especially brake parts advertisements, are full of poop. To get 40,000 miles out of a set of pads is on the high side of normal - most I see are lasting 30-35,000 with problematic braking systems eating pads every 15-20,000.
  • tbonertboner Posts: 402
    45K is pretty good. I'm not sold on lifetime warranty pads. The pad maker just makes them harder so they wear away the rotor more.

    I get about 25K-27K from the pads on my 87 LeSabre which ends up being one year of driving. I change them every fall before it gets too cold. I seem to get two pad lifetimes out of my rotors before rust overtakes them. I just got about 52K out of a set of KVR/Brembo rotors which used up a set of KVR Carbon Metallic pads and then a set of the Bendix TitaniuMetallics.

    But then I drive really hard and brake deep in the curves ;)

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,350
    A lot of these "lifetime" pads aren't anything special. The seller is betting on the odds you'll sell the car or forget about the warranty.

    Or the pads will be made of a very hard material. These will squeek and drive you nuts.

    BTW, my 99 EX V-6 coupe just had it's 45,000 mile service. Replaced rear pads they were getting thin. Front pads at 4MM. They are 10 MM when new. The rear pads only come with about 4 MM when they are new.
  • My 2000 Accord, V6 has 40,000 miles and I just replaced the rear brake pads. The front pads has
    maybe about 7500 miles left on it. This seems
    unusual because normally the front brade pads wear out first and the rear pads usually last
    almost twice longer than the front. Is there
    something wrong with my rear brakes? Anybody have similar problem. Please help. Thanks.
  • Sorry hit the wrong key. Don't know why but when I help friends with disk brakes change pads and the cars with pads on all 4 corners-the rear ones seem to wear out first. Your driving style and conditions will determine brake life. If I lived in LA, doubt I would get more than 30 or 40K out of front pads. Replaced my front pads on 97 accord at 118K and they had at least 10K left on them. Now have a bit over 140K and the front pads (el cheapo auto zone things) are showing very little wear and the rear brake linings are probably good to 200k.

    Never let the repair guys "true" up your rotors by grinding or turning them unless they really wobble when braking. Some places sell up for this "service" and it ends up costing a lot when u have to replace the disk rotor. Cheaper on the newer accords though-not necessary to press the thing into the wheel and bearing assembly.

    SO in answer to your question-usually rear pads wear out first-you probably live in a city and are on the brakes a lot.
  • Butch, I appreciate your input on my 2000 Accord
    rear brake question. I do drive in the San Fran-
    cisco bay area and traffic here is terrible. Also
    thanks for the info on turning/not turning the
  • You guys seem to have had good experiences with your rear brakes. My local Honda dealer where I bought car did a brake job on rear at 22.5K. Said they were almost gone. Did I get ripped?
  • I just had both the front and rear brakes (pads and rotors) replaced for the first time at 68,000 miles. 98 V6 Accord w/ auto tranny. I was pleased with how long they lasted, but not with the bill for the replacement of all 4 corners.
  • It is possible to wear out rear pads in 22.5 k miles but you really have to be on the brakes a lot. In the future I would ask to see the pads before letting them replace them. What did they charge u for a set of rear pads?

    Timadams-why did they replace the rotors-did u have incredible shake in the front end while braking??. If not you did not need rotors. What did they stick you for pads on all 4 corners and rotors?
  • I also had to change my front pads recently. No complaints, they lasted 67.8K miles
  • the excuse they gave me was that since I used a local toll road that went up and down approximately 500 ft in height that the rear brakes wear faster. Should have questioned that since the cruise control maintains the speed in both directions with little or no braking from me.
  • I was searching the internet for best price on brake pads for my '01 Accord V6 and came upon the following pads for the car.

    N1010-57760 (I assume this is Honda Brand pads)
    N1010-25912 PBR
    N1010-87985 ACT Ceramic Japan
    N1010-84172 Nissin Super Japan
    N1010-99441 Advantex
    N1010-45299 Nippon

    Does anyone have an opinion on these various brands in terms of performance, durability, quietness etc... Any information and recommendation is welcomed.

  • timadamstimadams Posts: 294
    They replaced all four rotors at my option. I've had brake pads replaced before on vehicles without replacing the rotors and ended up with poor braking due to the pads not "seating" well with the non-smooth rotor.

    I won't replace brake pads without either turning down or replacing the rotors, and my rear rotors were rusty enough that my mechanic suggested replacing them rather than turning them. I told him to go ahead and replace all four.

    The whole job cost about $450.
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Rotors don't rust where the brake pad sweeps. The rust on other areas of the rotor have nothing to do with braking performance.

    (Ok, if the car sits for a while the swept area might develop minor rust. The pad removes this in the first few applications of the brakes. Or, for you unfortunates that live in heavyly salted areas, I understand lots of thing rust up and fall off of cars. Where I live, I don't see this happening.)

    Your mechanic used the FUD factor on you. Fear, Uncertainity, Distrust. He's the one I would mistrust with my auto repairs.

    (Now on the caliper part of the brakes, there are some areas where rust will effect function.)
  • bburton1bburton1 Posts: 395
    Have left the original rotors never turned on 2 different accords for over 200K and now on one with 143K and never had a problem and used el cheapo Beck Arnley and Autozone pads.

    In terms of longevity-have a 72 VW van - bought new - still has the original rotors-replaced pads a couple of times-and rusty rotors are not a problem-it just grinds the rust off.

    Find a new mechanic-this guy is not your friend. I have gone with friends a couple of times when their dealer tried this stuff and put a stop to it.
  • normkolnormkol Posts: 134
    I'm going to be changing the pads on my 2000 Accord SE. I got OEM pads, with new backing plates.

    What do you use on these plates to prevent squeeling? Also, what high temp grease do you use on the pins?

    This is the first time I'll be changing pads since my 1972 Toyota Corona, so I'm a bit rusty.

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