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I tried to put a Britax in, but when rear-facing it can swing back, and the anchor strap has no where to tie. Is there a recommended seat?
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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    Here's a link of interest until you get some suggestions from other parents:


    http://www.car-safety.org



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  • Can you please list the age and weight of your child, and the model and year of your vehicle for reference?


    Most vehicles will accomodate a Britax rear-facing tether. You may have to loop the included strap around a seatbelt anchor, or a non-moving, structural portion of the seat in front. You then attach the tether hook to the metal ring on the included strap. You can also run the tether back to the tether anchor used for front-facing carseats, though this may be less convenient. You can find some links on this topic and general information in the LATCH guide at the site Steve posted above, also:


    http://www.car-safety.org/latch.html


    In the tether section, you will find a mention about the Britax rear-facing tethers with a couple links to other sites that have photos as well.


    Good luck!

  • Hi - new to the Town Hall so please excuse if this topic has already been talked to death...
    I am considering purchasing a 2000 Odyssey and am concerned about the child seat installation. Browsing around some old discussions (1999 vintage) leads me to believe that they can be safely installed without the dreaded locking clips by pulling the seat belts all the way out. Is this still the installation method of choice?

    Also, it sounded like there may have been a fix on the way for the lack of a place to attach a tether. Does anyone know if there is any new news on that front? The discussion I found indicated that there was an anchor under the passenger side 2nd row seat that worked then, but there may be a better fix from Honda on the way.

    I want to buy this van (before someone else does) but have a 3 yo and almost 1 yo and if installing the seats isn't any easier than it has been in my Camry, I may consider other vans... Grand Caravan, Sienna, sedona??...

    I appreciate any thoughts - Thanks!
  • First, all cars since the 1996 model year must meet new lockability requirements. Basically, they must have a latchplate or retractor that can lock a child restraint securely. So, in theory, a locking clip should not be needed for most vehicles since the 1996 model year. In practice, the locking mechanism on some models don't hold some carseats well, or the vehicle/carseat owner's manual may still recommend a locking clip in certain situations. So, though there are exceptions, the switchable locking retractors (switched by pulling the belts all the way out) in the Odyssey should work well to install most carseats.


    The 2000 Odyssey does have two standard tether anchors on the bottom of the 2nd row chairs, and optional tether anchors on the rear tailgate sil. I have all the details here:


    http://www.car-safety.org/odyssey.html


    Of course, the Odyssey is not going to be compatible with all carseats. It could happen that your particular models don't work well for one reason or another, though that is possible in any vehicle. The new LATCH system does make installation easier in some cases, but you would have to purchase a 2001 Odyssey for that. The 2000 Windstars did have LATCH, and their safety ratings are also very good overall.

  • Thank you for the information and the link to the car-safety web site. All were extremely helpful, and since I purchased the van yesterday, I am putting them to good use! I have a Century infant seat with base and a Century Next Step Toddler/Booster and I think they are both going to fit reasonably well.

    This is a great resource and I will definitely be back next time I need help. Thanks again!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    New car seats are a snap

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    Strapping kids



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  • cavillercaviller Posts: 331
    The Strapping Kids article is basically what I do about every other Saturday:-)
  • We wanted a LATCH compatible seat for our new Odyssey, and I have been very have with my Britax Roundabout, so started shopping for the best price online for a new one. I started looking at the Marathon, mostly because I had never seen it, and liked the fabric better. It turns out this is a new seat that is good for up to 65 pounds, rather than the 40 for the Roundabout. It fits great in the Odyssey, my daughter seems very comfortable in it, very plushy and roomy, and its great not having that seat belt blocking access to the rear. (we have kept her in the middle because she is the only one). It was pricey, but we are very happy with it, and will not have to get a booster seat later because of the higher weight limit. We did have to take the headrest off the bucket seat for the best fit, and bought a protective pad for underneath the car seat.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    My 2001 Escape has LATCH in it and I'm glad too with my wife being 19 weeks.

    Odie
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    Congrats Odie! Got the car seat yet?

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  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    Got the travel system the other day.

    Funny when we went look at the strollers and seats my wife just started laughing at me cause I was checking the Tires and Suspention on the stroller and the Belts on both stroller and seat.

    Hey we even got a stroller with air filled tires, and it even had 2 spare tires just incase of blow-outs (and NO they are not Firestones)

    Odie
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    "The U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) today warned consumers to watch out for problems with child seats equipped with recessed buckles built into the seat between the child’s legs.


    NHTSA said the buckles in these seats can easily collect particles of food, drink, dirt, sand or other material that may interfere with the buckle. The consumer may have difficulty latching and unlatching dirty buckles. In some cases the material may cause a “false latch” if the user mistakenly believes that the buckle is securely latched when it is not."


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  • I'm having a hard time fitting everybody and everything in our brand new Odyssey - formerly drove a 91 previa. Right now mid seats are apart, with futura in one, and rear-facing roundabout in the other. The big kids are having a hard time getting in from car pool line with back packs, etc, which wasn't a problem with previa. A neighbor kid gave up and sat in front. Normally, all the seats are filled when I pick up, and my 13 year old daughter, 5 ft 8 sits in front, so I don't worry about the air bag with her - worry more about myself at 5 ft 3... I saw one mom pickup in the preschool line, where the kids are put in and then we pull up to buckle. She got out, opened the back, and reached over to buckle her child in the third row. Seems crazy and inconvenient in some ways, but may be what I have to do. It seems that there's 4 inches less between second and third rows, and 1 1/2 less between front and second rows, plus a lot less space beside second row to reach in back if you slide seats together. I'm disappointed with all the rave reviews of this vehicle...
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  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    We can't find our owners manual. And going to coscoinc does not help. Can someone tell me if the manual in available online.

    Or better yet, can someone tell me how to use the extra belt that came with this car seat.

    PLEASE PLEASE
  • harryfatharryfat Posts: 132
    Eddie Bauer? Dude, when did you go upscale on us? I thought you were a hard working stiff and here you are getting Eddie Bauer.

    I also have a 2000 Alpha Omega (but plain) and also just bought a second one for the new van. I know I have the instructions for the new one and I'll look for the old one tomorrow morning in the daylight as I think it's stored in the slot behind the seat in the old Civic.

    If nobody else can give help you learn how to use it by the weekend, I'll fax it to you Monday morning.
  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    Cool, thanks Harry. I didn't want to bother you about it, but here you are again, also providing for us.

    I am just glad that someone actually got it for us from our baby shower. I would have been happy with the Alpha Omega since that is what Ike has, but just so to get something a bit different we asked for the Eddie. We had an easy time with our baby shower registry, because Elaine already had done all the research of safety, recalls and so forth. 99% of our stuff is identical to what they have, it was nearly sickening.
    Then we both get an Ody the same day and the same dealership. I am just happy they wanted a different color. People did say when we were growing up that they thought we were twins.

    Thanks again Harry.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    "The mistaken belief that their young children are "too big for a car seat" leads many parents to put them at greater risk in a crash."

    Parents often mistaken about protecting kids in cars (KTVB.com)

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  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    Hi Steve, your links brings me to a site to register. I can probably read from your writings of what the article is about and I agree with you on that. My wife and I already said we plan on placing our kid(s) on some form of child seat until they are 10.

    Is that too young or too old. Maybe that's what the article is about?
  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    That link worked.

    Every little information, useful or not, is better than no information.

    At least this article is better to read on the bus, than the dreaded 10 million pages of extended warranty. :)
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    does the extra belt have a spring retention clasp on each end... if it does it's the belt for the new LATCH system in newer cars.

    Believe me this new system is alot easier to put the seats in and remove then using the reg. seatbelts.

    Odie
  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    No it doesn't, I looked it up on the NHTSA board and they had a great picture of what I have. Dah me, it's the Tether, so I have it wrap around the top part of the seat and on to the bottom as per the instructions from the dealer.

    I think we are going to Buy Buy Baby this weekend to buy a new one for the van, and leave the old one in the 10 yr old "Egra".
  • harryfatharryfat Posts: 132
    Norman,

    In the new issue of the Consumer Reports they compared car seats. Somehow the Alpha Omega you and I both own are ranked pretty low. If you have the $$, and I know you do from all the savings that you have from not buying the Sienna, you can get the top of the line Brittax (sp?) for double the price of the Alpha Omega (on sale at Target for $99 three weeks ago). If you don't have access to a copy of the magazine, I can fax you the 2 page article.
  • lapvnlapvn Posts: 455
    Logged onto to CR, and saw your report. Britax car seat $230. I think that is for those people on the SienTA side. They are the ones with money to burn for a new car, let them pay for this one. I think (no I KNOW) I still would go for the Alpha.

    Comparing the Alpha to the Britax, double the price, I would expect some huge difference in quality and safety.

    What puzzles me is that they have the alpha for UP TO 35 lbs. I thought the Alpha was a 3 stage car seat, all the way to a booster where you take out the base. Is this correct?

    My gosh, $230 for a car seats, it's for the same people of paid $250 for that Peg Perego High Chair.

    Sorry, no offense to the people who paid for it, but the Britax is just our of my league. I want to protect my little one, but at the same time I have to consider some form rational thinking for my situation.
  • harryfatharryfat Posts: 132
    Yeah, that's because you only have a Ody EX-L with DVD, the dash board is so "basic inside" compared to the plush and luxurious nature of the Sienna XLE Limited Edition.

    Just as the Sienna is "much more stylish and the leather seats are far superior in leather quality and comfort" than your Odyssey, you also need to compare the Britax with the Alpha in the seat cloth in style/quality and comfort before you decide...

    Apologies to you all who haven't read the Odyssey versus Sienna forum debate ...
  • cavillercaviller Posts: 331
    I have a number of cosco corp manuals in pdf format. With your complete model number, I might be able to email you the correct one. Unfortunately, matching Cosco manuals with carseats isn't always easy- they use the same manual for many seats and rarely label them appropriately.

    This is all changing with the improvements Cosco is making in response to the new NHTSA child restraint ratings system. Cosco will also include the easier tilt-adjusters on their tether straps.

    If you didn't make it to Buy Buy Baby yet, consider the Britax Husky when you go. They had them on sale for $129 recently if you don't mind the brown cover...

    Also, the Alpha Omega is 35 pounds rear-facing. It then goes to 40 pounds front-facing and then can be used as a booster.

    Steve-

    Kids can graduate from boosters as soon as they fit properly in adult seatbelts. This varies from child to child, and vehicle to vehicle. Some adults technically need a booster in some vehicles:-) The quick rule is 8 years old, unless the child is already 4'9" tall. The best rule is a test like this one:

    http://www.car-safety.org/faq.html#Q9
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    Best not tell those adults, they might get offended :-)

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    "The Tattle Tale uses a five-point harness system and sensors to detect when the seat is installed improperly or when the buckle is released."

    Child safety seat warns when used improperly (Honolulu Advertiser)

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