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Thoughts on high mileage Mustang Cobras

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  • Another factor would be city versus highway miles. If the guy with a 100k miles on his Cobra put them on in a daily highway commute without starting and stopping alot that is different than if the miles came from city driving. In fact, it occurs to me that if he put 100k on that fast, he probably was doing highway miles. Also, hopefully the owner of the Cobra was 50 years old plus, that would imply conservative driving habits. The best way I can think of to shorten a car engine's life would be to give the car to a teenager or young male driver and let them drive it for a while.

    Nothing will protect a car against cold starts, and this is going to occur with a car doing alot of city miles, even with a conservative driver.

    Shifty, what about synthetic oil? If the vehicle owners were using synthetic oil with changes at proper intervals, would this increase the vehicles life significantly? Also, wouldn't this help with cold starts involved in city driving?

    If I was looking at buying this car, I would want to see maintenance records.
  • jacuzzjacuzz Posts: 3
    Question one --why do you want to by a Cobra Vs a Z or say a Supra or even a Lexus

    Question two --if I buy the Cobra how will I use it.

    Question three-The Test drive should tell you what you need to initially know.

    other thoughts could be -do I care about re-sale.

    If the price is right and the engine fails Would I put another engine in the car.

    Putting the engine aside- is the car fatigued--suspension, interior,leaks -take it out in the rain.

    Most important is how you feel. To me arguing over a lexus engine Vs a Nissan engine is a mute point. Take a really hard look around on what is really on the road as far as sports cars,,Cobra's
    are rare because they are a limited production car, Camaros, supras and Z's are out there, but hey in my opinion there are a heck of lot more mustangs of the same years still around looking and running good.

    Fun, enjoyment and looks of what you are driving is in the eyes and hands of the beholder. If you like it get it, agonizing over the mileage is important based on how you want to use the car. I know one thing when I see a Cobra,
    that looks good I am always impressed.

    As my wife always puts it you get what you pay for,and if you are buying a high mileage car and that is what it is --a great car with high mileage, heck find out what a engine costs for that Cobra if available, especially if you want to keep it.

    Fun, function, investment what is it you are looking for, weigh them out, and the answer will be there for you.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    "heck find out what a engine costs for that Cobra if available"

    I'll bet it would cost too much. If you're going to get a new engine, why get a Cobra? At that price, you're better off with a built 351 or 302. Ford makes some really nice crate motors, some with lots of power right out of the box for less money than a new DOHC 4.6L (if it's even available new). Do you really have to have a Cobra? Are you concerned with image or performance because you can easily build a low mileage Cobra killer for the money you'd spend putting a new DOHC 4.6L in the high mileage Cobra. IMO, who cares what it says on your rear bumper if that GT next to you isn't going to see your rear bumper.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    rear apron ($200), front air dam ($200-300) and put in a Cobra or Cobra R wing and have a Cobra clone.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Don't do that! That's like slappin' a "5.0L" badge on a 4 cyl Mustang. If this person wants a performer, pick up a clean 91-93 LX 5.0L 5sp coupe and go to town. Those cars are relatively light, cheap to buy, and have an absolutely HUGE aftermarket. A little money spent on one of these rides gets you major performance. If the decision were up to me, I'd much rather have a clean, low mileage, LX 5.0L (they're out there) than a high mileage Cobra "image" machine. If you need a best bang for the buck Mustang thumper, the LX coupe is the way to go. Look out Camaros, Firechickens, and COBRAS!

    BTW, I may be a little biased. I used to own a deep jewel green 91' LX 5.0L 5sp coupe. That car was a BLAST.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    I live my '86. It absolutely screams and beats the Corvettes at autocrosses.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    This forum makes me want my Mustang back. God I miss that raucous, [non-permissible content removed] kickin' beast. There is nothing like the sound of a lumpy 302 inhaling gobs of air and fuel.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    (but street legal) 88 GT racing in E Modified this last weekend at our autocross in Nazareth. He ran open exhaust, gutted, but very nicely painted interior (he shows the car), suspension by Griggs Racing, Cervini's fiberglass, etc. He was running a 347 stroker and a FRPP F cam - it absolutely thumped.

    That is definitely the cam that is going in my motor when I rebuild.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I used to work at a Ford dealer, so I'd get all of the motorsports parts at 10% over cost. It was a pretty good deal on most parts but the problem was me spending all of my money in that catalog. I was running a motorsports E series cam which is pretty mild but the car still shook a little at idle. It was a nice combination of drivability and power.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    it's cheaper than nay dealer's retail pricing.

    We were talking about replacing Cobra motors. Sean Hyland Motorsports sells 575 rear wheel hp (guaranteed with a 10 psi blower) long blocks.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    some money. I still think it would be kinda pointless though. The guy who started this thread was obviously looking for a bargain and IMO a high mileage Cobra is not a bargain, performance wise. A clean fox body LX 5.0L is a bargain.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    if you've got the depth in your checkbook, who am I to say you shouldn't do it? I'm sure SHM pays the guy for his original 30,000 mile engine, too. The long blocks are between $8-10K, depending on your preferences during the build.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    you could build a track terror.....the whole car.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    but this guy built a show car - at Super Shops we called them "checkbook cars". Funds are unlimited, the owners have more money than sense and the cars will never really be used for a normal purpose. Trailer queens used for bragging rights.

    My car will be done for under $10K, with the blower - it'll weigh under 2900 lbs, have 425-450 at the wheels and will embarrass Vettes and Porches at the autocross. For under $10K.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    have a nice setup planned. Better be careful autocrossing that thing, 450 RWHP is quite a bit. I remember an article a while back in "5.0L" magazine about building a $3000 Mustang that ran 12s. It was basically a POS, but it was quick.
  • maybe the guy who started this thread would be better off with a couple year old GT. Newcar31, I just got a 2003 GT, and you are right, there is nothing like a Mustang!
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    and I run in North Jersy at Giants stadium (quite a few races over the year) and they tend to be fast, smooth courses instead of short and choppy.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    going to autocross events and seeing all of the "checkbook" cars. There was a guy with a ZR-1 with insane amounts of money in the engine. Every single corner he came out of, he ended up shredding the tires. The car appeared to have too much power, or at least more power than the driver could handle. In the last corner of his last run, he overcooked the corner, tried to correct with power oversteer, and the 'Vette ended up swapping sides, taking out the timing laser in the process. Then it was back on the trailer....
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    Autocross entry: $20
    New Hoosiers: $500
    Stickers for car: $10

    Getting to see some idiot with more money than sense show off and thrash his Vette and end up paying $2000 for a new laser timer:

    Priceless
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    with an adjustable boost supercharger, I can lower the boost a few PSI.
  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    Yes, the previous generation Mustang was too much fun. I should have bought one then. When I looked at them again it was '93 and they'd taken most of the life out of the car. Maybe the SOHC has put back some sparkle and zip.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Posts: 2,353
    are catching on in the aftermarket. There are several 4.6 tuners in 5.0 magazine who deal strictly with mod motors. Their slight lack of bottom end torque and higher top end is an advantage at the drag strip. The 5.0's only disadvantage has been too much bottom end torque resulting in no traction.
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