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VW Golf R32

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  • I think VW really screwed up the possibility of a really good thing. However i do not think the comparisons with the STi and Evo are justified. The R32 is basically a nice luxurious Audi with a body kit. Not a spartan, good for performance only, vehicle like the STi and Evo. Just two different fields. Unfortunately this formula will probably hurt the R32 even more because now it is playing with the big boys and not budget car hot rods.

    All VW had to do is add 30 more HP lower the 0-60 by about a second and i would find the R32 to be a good alternative to the STi. I personally would rather have the nice [non-permissible content removed] interior of the VW instead of that extra second and grip produced by the Evo and STi.

    It would be pretty damn cool taking on Corvettes tho with my 28k Subaru though.
  • I had an 02 GTI before my STi - I'd love to transplant the GTI interior into the STi - that would be a perfect car.
  • vwguild2vwguild2 Posts: 113
    The answer is no...
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    Thanks. My wife loves her TT and since we usually trade about every 30 months, she is in future shop mode -- but On*star (or lack thereof) will be a must have. Unsubtantiated rumor has it that there will be three cars that are sort of fraternal twins (or triplets in this case):

    1. R32
    2. TT 3.2
    3. A3 (and a possible S3)

    The Audi products will -- rumor only -- have On*star either standard or optional.

    This is "so cheap" to produce, it would seem the R32 would offer it to level the playing field.

    For those who have never had a car with On*star, integrated with a factory phone (removable) -- this is a safety and convenience feature that is a must have. But I think ESP, ABS+Brake assist, sat nav and rear parktronic also fall into that category.

    Thanks again.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    The model we saw was $29,645 -- cloth seats no options at all apparently.

    Will the DSG tranmission make it to the R32?

    Will there be sat nav and a "factory" integrated phone available?

    Will On*star be offered eventually?

    Any opinions or actual facts on this matter would be great.
  • So I'm on day 2 of driving a bright blue R32. First impressions:
    This is a german car. Maybe it's on the market to compete with the STI and EVO but its much different. More comfortable on the roads as far as bumps, clutch is considerably softer. Stereo rocks. Leather and interior overall are quite a bit nicer.

    Only problems are it seems so small (and is), has huge summer tires not great in Chicago even in March (icy mornings), doesn't seem like a good fit for AWD. And the exterior style is just as humdrum as any 5 year old VW design would be.

    I'll give a full update after the weekend when I can get it out of the city.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    I have seen a cloth one @ 29,600+ just wondering what options are available and how much (MSRP).

    Is this being sold for sticker, over, or under?
  • effigy3effigy3 Posts: 3
    Hi, my R32 is now 9 days old with 500 miles on it and I couldn't be happier. I have waited 7 years for VW to bring this guy to our shores. It was worth the wait.

    This car is a limited production vehicle and for good reason. The price is considerably more than a traditional GTI VR6. The new body style Golf will be out soon. In my experience (5 years of automotive sales) most of the people who will drool over this car can't afford it and those that can afford it will likely be looking at a Passat or something similar. The market for the R32 is small. The WRX and Evo are it's closest competitors, but are they really? Those two cars appeal to the Fast and Furious wanna-be crowd. The R32 sets it's sights a bit higher.

    The R32 is a German car through and through. It has the traditional understated VW design philosophy. Solid construction, heated seats, climate control, Monsoon stereo, automatic wipers and rear-view mirror, and Konig designed buckets are among a host of plush features that most pocket rockets forgo.

    The R32 has more acceleration and handling capability than you can legally use in the US. I can attack any VT corner at more than twice its posted safe speed and feel completely rooted to the pavement. On New England highways where the line between lanes is infrequently and for short durations dotted, I can pass 4, 5 or 6 slow movers without fear of running out of steam and kissing oncoming traffic. The sound of the engine at start up is exquisite. Not harsh or adolescent as so many hopped up cars with neon under carriage lights and 2 inch tail pipes sound. In short this is the most fun, refined car I have ever owned.

    If you don't get what VW was going for in the R32, that probably means it's not for you. But for the few of us that get it. You are going to love this car!
  • krzysskrzyss Posts: 843
    is R32 7 years old ?
    Syncro VR6 Golf might be but no R32.
    I am happy that you are happy but I found one funny thing.
    "The R32 sets it's sights a bit higher."
    With normally aspirated engine it is not R32 which aims higher, turbocharged cars do not lose performance with attitude that fast ;-)

    Krzys

    PS Jetta R32 would be direct competitor for 330xi (and 330 RWD).
  • golfgti47golfgti47 Posts: 13
    wow, i didn't know that the R32 was 7 years old, kind of seems like vw is stupid that they didn't jump on bringing the R32 to the U.S. Anyway, good decission on buying a R32. I love them so much and i like them better then a Evo or a Wrx sti, its just something cool and different, besides it being luxurious, and looking better... Although the Sti and the Evo is faster, the R32 is fast enough, i just think that 30,000 is a bit steep for the car, it just seems a bit overpriced for me
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    is quite simply: weight. 3400 lbs!!! My 2003 4WD V8 4Runner is only 700 lbs heavier.

    And I thought my 2000 VR6 was a porker at 2900 lbs. The R32 has 70 hp more than my old VR6, but is only .5 sec faster to 60 (if that).

    VW blew it.
  • epp1epp1 Posts: 48
    ...kidding, sort of, but it got your attention.

    I was totally jazzed to see that the R32 was coming out - but then ultimately disappointed, again, with the final specs. I am admittedly a WRX wagon owner - of the 300hp variety - big 4" (not 2", even your Rabbit has that) tailpipe and all.

    I love the clean looks and lines of the R32 over my Suby and the fit, finish and interior appointments are light years ahead of Japan's rocket cars (WRX, STi, EVO).

    The sad thing is VW could do SO much more! To come out with a 240hp/236ft-lb'er after the WRX has been in the US market since '02 and the STi/EVO since last year is a job poorly done by VW IMHO.

    I'm getting too old to "run" with other drivers but I have no doubt my lightly modified WRX will slaughter this vehicle. Shoot a good driver with a stock WRX will give it trouble, let alone an STi or EVO.

    Unfortunately, it should be the converse given the R32's lethal potential - even while maintaining the German engineering look and feel. I'm sure the aftermarket tuners are chomping at the bit with this vehicle. Given the robust drivetrains of these vehicles I expect some seriously fire-breathers will be created.

    Sad but true, this is all for naught as a new baby is making me turn in my smilemobile for the new Passat 2.0L TDI Wagon. Makes me feel old just saying it.

    Sean
  • wazmowazmo Posts: 2
    In purely numerical terms, the Subaru WRX and the R32 have very similar performance envelopes. While I don't agree that the WRX appeals only to the "Fast and Furious" crowd the R32 is clearly more refined.

    If I were drag racing (I don't) I would have a much narrower definition of performance than if I were putting in a 500 mile day through the mountains of Colorado (I do). There, the turbocharged motor of my WRX wagon is a real asset but the incessant drumming of road noise wears thin.

    I think a more meaningful definition of performance is how well a car executes the tasks for which it was designed. In the context of fast, capable and comfortable transport, the R32 is a very high performance car indeed.

    Is the R32 worth $6000.00 more than my WRX? Not to me. That said, it's very clear to me why someone else might think it was. The value is certainly there.
  • mscmsc Posts: 5
    hi. i recently drove r32. liked it a lot. the gears are a little close for my taste, but the car is certainly quick. the seats, steering wheel, driving dynamics/handling are simply outstanding. i personally prefer the feel of a naturally-aspirated engine to the turbo'd wrx (i haven't driven an evo), but the car sounds like a 4-banger until the resonator opens up at 3500 or so, and then the car sounds like an m5. really.

    during my test drive, however, there was a buzz in the dash. somewhat disheartening on a new car. i checked on consumer reports, and saw that the golf had the absolute WORST reliability of small cars! i don't think i have the guts to buy a car that may end up in the shop a lot (my 330ci has been almost perfect mechanically). does anyone know if the vr6 is a reliable engine, and if golfs are really the lemons that consumer reports makes them out to be?
  • krzysskrzyss Posts: 843
    I believe that place where the car is built has something to do with quality. Check Ford Focus initial fiasco in US and success in Europe.
    R32 is the only Golf imported from Europe (Slovakia if I am not mistaken), the rest is from Mexico and Brazil - different plants. The CR results may apply to R32 but the do not have to.

    Krzys

    PS My Mexico built Neon worked quite well for 80000 miles I had it (head gasket - covered by Chrysler and strut replacement - 1 strut broke).
  • youngyoung Posts: 5
    I heard someone just bought one in MA for only 26500 (no leather) is it a great price or what ?
  • rickroverrickrover Posts: 602
    That's a great price - it's the invoice price for an R32 without leather. The VW dealers near me have 5 or 6 R32's in stock so getting one at dealer invoice shouldn't be too hard.

    As far a reliability goes I wouldn't be too concerned. I have an 03 Jetta TDI wagon that's been perfect and a 2000 Passat before that which never had a warranty repair in 3 years.

    Jetta TDI wagons are made in Germany.
  • youngyoung Posts: 5
    I am happy, but I still wonder why instead of markup price, we are
    getting the car as invoice. Remember there is only 5000 in the US, so no one wants it, that's why the dealers are selling at invoice ?
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