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Chevy Malibu Maxx

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  • rferdrferd Posts: 28
    I had the same problem with mine that the GM Owners site did not recognize my VIN. I called them and they added it.
  • Yer a cheeky one now, ain'tcha?

    I'm not ashamed of my car now. I can say it makes me work to close the hatch, and I don't mind the eventual benefit in the form of broader shoulders. Best thing ever is when I pop the hatch from inside, then open and close my door... guess what happens? the hatch clicks shut again and makes me find that weatherproof handle to open it again! :D All in all, I'm proud to say that I own a normal Maxx.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    yep, that's normal, and I too love the workout the gate gives me :D
  • kjk2kjk2 Posts: 3
    Gee, I didn't mean to offend you. I just didn't understand what you meant in your email. Cool it!
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I'm kicking around the idea of canceling the GMPP on our 2004 Maxx LT. My reasons for doing so would be: 1) just to get the money back for this instead of having the money tied up in a warranty which is basically an insurance policy. 2) i overpaid by a few hundred bucks, and canceling would be one way to minimize the amount that I overpaid. 3) our Maxx has been relatively trouble-free so far in 1st 15,000 miles. 4) we may end up selling the Maxx and I'm not sure if the GMPP would provide enough extra value to the buyer for me to justify the cost of holding on to the warranty.

    Questions:

    1) What do you think of the wiseness of this idea?

    2) Anybody know EXACTLY how the refund is calculated? The phone rep yesterday said it is based on time AND mileage, but I'm not sure exactly how they do it. We bought the 5 year / 90,000 mile GMPP with zero deductible. Car had 5,000 miles when we bought it. So we are covered thru 95,000 miles or 5 years. Car is at 15,000 miles now and we've had it 8 months, but it was a dealer car (driven by service mgr supposedly) for a few months before we bought it.

    My rough calculations were: The GMPP warranty still has 75,000 miles left (90k - 15k), so that would suggest a refund of 83.3% minus the $50 administrative fee; OR still have 52 months left (60 minus 8), for a refund of 86.7% minus $50. Am I on the right track with these calculations? What I suggested seems like the logical and fair way to calculate it, but you never know what GM might come up with.

    I also plan to do more math and determine if it might actually be cheaper to cancel the existing GMPP and buy one from Black's whose prices are better than what I paid. I know the rates are higher once the vehicle is used, so it might not be worth doing what I'm describing.

    One thing I learned about the GMPP. I realize some folks already knew this, but I consider myself an educated consumer and I didn't know it: Don't buy until almost 12,000 miles. To me, it seems somewhat dishonest and borderline unethical for GM and its dealers NOT to tell customers that the coverage begins at the mileage when they have purchased. E.g. if you buy a 100k warranty when car has 0 miles, the warranty expires when the car has 100k miles. But if you wait and buy warranty when car has 11,999 miles-- you still get the 'new' GMPP rate and your coverage won't expire until the car has 111,999 miles. This could be in the ballpark of an extra year of coverage, and that makes a huge difference. Of course, the dealers all pressure you to buy one right there since they know it's their best chance to make sure you buy the warranty from them, not from someone else.
  • Oh, I thought you were kidding! I'm sorry. I was just rambling about the hatch, obviously.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    well, if you are considering selling a car within the first 5 years, never buy an extended warranty. The manufacturer's warranty covers you for the first 3. It makes no sense to me to buy a warranty for essentially 2 years. Since it sounds like you are contemplating selling the car, I'd get a refund on your GMPP today. Warrantees are for people like me who keep their car 10 years. Over that period, my GMPP will get used. Whether it is used enough to cover my $1,700 cost + interest is yet to be seen. But on a first year GM model with this many electronics, I'm betting I made the right choice.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    That really paid off since everything on the car broke once :sick:

    For the most part, though, these things are marked up 100% by the dealer and pay off at 25-30%. You can get a higher loss ration buying mechanical insurance with a deductable through a regulated insurance company. I don't do that either.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    yeah, I seriously don't recommend that anymore. I did the research on 3 AM Best A+ rated companies 2 years ago. Two of them are now out of business. Imagine that!!! I'd stay clear of after market companies at this point.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    thanks for the feedback.

    based on hearing/reading the stories about some big automotive warranty companies going belly-up, i definitely would never buy one of those. at least not until the business climate in that area had changed drastically.

    this GMPP was the first extended warranty we've ever purchased on a vehicle. with it being a first-year model, and a GM vehicle on top of that, i didn't like the prospect of being out of warranty after about 2 years (assuming 18,000 miles per year). so the 5 yr / 90k would provide an extra 3 years coverage. That's expensive coverage at $1,695 but at the time i didn't want to risk it. of course, i didn't realize i could have waited 6+ months and purchased the same warranty, extending the coverage longer because it starts when you buy the ext warranty, not when you buy the vehicle.

    so far, the car has not been back to the dealer. there's a small list of issues to be resolved soon, biggest of which is what feels like warped rotors. other than that, the initial quality has been better than expected.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    Has anyone compared the Malibu LT to a similarly priced LaCrosse? I was going to buy a Malibu but after driving the LaCrosse I changed my mind. I'll order an '06 CXL with a few options.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I didn't shop Lacrosse seriously at all, but it is an updated version of an old car whereas the Malibu is a more modern platform, in my opinion. Does that make the Malibu a better car? Not necessarily.

    My impression was that Lacrosse was priced significantly higher vs. Malibu when similarly equipped. True? Not true?
  • christinadchristinad Posts: 34
    Hey! My first car was a beige 86 Ford Tempo. Everything broke on it, too (including the front axle (in half)) but I'd fix it and it would keep on ticking. I'm sure it's still on the road somewhere out there. :)

    In other news...
    I'm going to pick up my Maxx today...FINALLY! I bought it almost a month ago! The dealer experience has been a nightmare. It took an act of Congress to have them ship my taxes and title to Vermont. I finally picked up the tags today. Another bad dealership with bad customer service. Still love the car and the price, though.
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    You might want to post some of your comments over on the 'CAN GM SURVIVE LOOSING BILLIONS....." topic, where some folks seem to feel GM has no business trying to make dealers behave better.

    But it's not just GM - I tried getting a simple question answered from Audi and their dealers about using chains on their A3. They ignored the query completely. At least GM told me the situation with the Maxx.

    If you're getting an '04 Maxx be sure to go thru these forums and make sure all the issues get addressed. Biggest thing to watch out for is the steering columm. Other than that the Maxx is one of GM's nicer cars!
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    good luck with the new car..and welcome finally....hope you enjoy the ride....did you see the pics of the wood inserts I added..them finally!!
  • christinadchristinad Posts: 34
    Yep, I saw the pics. I'm going to install them in a couple of weeks.
    On another note, I remember some talk about the Maxx being made to accommodate a cabin air filter by taking the glove compartment out and sliding a filter with substantial wiring (so it doesn't move) behind the little door.
    I know some of you tried this. After a few months, have you had any problems? I think this would be an easy and helpful thing for me, being an allergy sufferer.
  • hickorydhickoryd Posts: 57
    After overcoming initial problems including "Pulls to Left", and 2 interior appearance items, my Maxx is meeting my expectations.
    Record milage at every fill-up: Always 28.something.
    Quiet cabin.
    Decent paint job.
    Haul 2x6x8' boards as well as 10 foot long pvc pipe home from Home Depot.
    New computer fit great on folded down left rear 66% seat and door opening was ample. Bought a pond kit (large box) then went grocery shopping and all the groceries fit under the adjustable rear shelf.
    Had the incident with the rear curtain not retracting. Dealer had to pull the headliner to fix it (children in back seat are bound to repeat that)
    Recently, with windows down, one shade jumped from retainer. May need to bring it in for that fix.
    AC is cold...it was 97 yesterday.
    Estimated fuel milage is always off by about 3 mpg. Used to it.
    Windshield has about 10 small surface chips, no cracks or holes. Seems like the windshield deals with stones by chiping. Every stone that hits the Expy creates a crack. Maxx has front end bug and stone deflector.
    Biggest complaint right now is it doesn't wash itself when it gets dirty, and it never self-vacuums.
    Hopes that it will be as durable as my 9 year old Contour that also still puts out ice cold air and everything in it still works.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    huh, my Maxx LS vacuums itself and serves frosty drinks on hot days. I'd have your's check out by the dealer ;)
    As for the instructions for inserting a cabin air filter, simply type those words (and/or my pen name) into the search engine to the left and pull up the instructions. It is very easy.
  • rysterryster Posts: 528
    Back in July 2000 I purchased a new, left-over '99 Camaro and opted for the GM extended warranty taking me to 5 years 60,000 miles. I believe my purchase price for that back then was approximately $850-900. After a year with the car, I decided to cancel the warranty and go for the prorated refund. Because the car was financed through GMAC, they did not send a refund check. They simply reduced my monthly payment to reflect the cancelation of the extended warranty. My payment went down approximately $8 per month, so they ended up giving me about $385 back for the warranty after only 1 year and 16,000 or so miles.

    The GM extended warranty runs concurrent with the bumper to bumper and then kicks in after the bumper to bumper expires. In my case, even though I had only 16,000 miles on the car when I canceled the warranty, GM considers the extended warranty has already been "used" for 16,000 miles. To cancel the warranty you have to go to the dealer and they have to verify vehicle mileage and file the cancelation request for you. My experience has been that the prorations are not a straight calculation. They have a figure they use to determine how much of the warranty you have already used from a monetary standpoint and then they send/credit you the difference. It may be less than you expect to receive.
  • yesterday on I-77 about half way between Columbia and Charlotte. I'm starting to see a few of them around. My daughter even brought mine back and let me ride in it yesterday. But she's off to Charleston and the shore in it today. She reports that all her college friends thinks the Maxx looks weird but is really comfortable to ride in.
  • Came on last night, I tightened the cap. Came on again today, I removed then replaced the cap. Gone tonight. :) for now. Otherwise, I'm coming up on 250 miles and love the drive. Yeah, got a 3-mile commute, which I'm not complaining about. DIC reads 15.3mpg on this tank so far, and it was pretty close on the first fill-up, so I'm led to believe that I'm getting a bit better in this car than in the old Buick LeSabre. :shades: Now for a real highway run-- oh yeah, I need to work to make the payments. :P
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    Once the gas cap is properly tightened, the computer normally requires around 4 start/stop cycles before turning off the CEL. Glad it worked out for you.
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    If you do a search of this topic via "cabin air filter" words, you'll find several suggestions as how to add a filter. The Maxx/Malibu makes it very easy. Simply drop the glove compartment door by gently pulling its sides inward, and you will see a small access door on the HVAC fan housing. Inside that, you can put either a cut down Filtrette furnace filter or - if you first insert a sturdy support mesh or grid - a Saturn ION cabin filter. (ironically, in the Saturn ION, that filter is quite difficult to replace).
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Thanks for the information.

    "To cancel the warranty you have to go to the dealer and they have to verify vehicle mileage and file the cancelation request for you."

    Funny, that is not what the GMPP guy told me over the phone the other day. Maybe things have changed since you did yours, or maybe he didn't tell me the whole story.

    "They simply reduced my monthly payment to reflect the cancelation of the extended warranty. My payment went down approximately $8 per month..."

    That's not what I am looking for - would much prefer the refund up front. Who knows how it might work in my case. We put about 20% down on the car. Obviously, it is in GM's interest to reduce the monthly payment, NOT to refund the remaining value.

    "They have a figure they use to determine how much of the warranty you have already used from a monetary standpoint and then they send/credit you the difference. It may be less than you expect to receive."

    This is what I was afraid of. It should be straightforward, but I bet it won't be. And any deviation from the straightforward/logical approach is sure to be in GM's favor.

    I'll post again if I decide to go through with the cancelation.
  • rferdrferd Posts: 28
    On your message you indicate that your mas has a frond end bug and stone deflector. I have been looking for one but have not found one specific for the Maxx. Where did you get your?

    Thanks.
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    This past weekend took my new Maxx in it's first road trip - Covered just under 800 miles - Much of the trip was through small towns and a good portion was through heart of the Green Mountains in Vermont - This car never missed a beat - The ride was outstanding and very quiet, even on 2 lane bumpy roads - Took the curves in the mountains with ease and I could pass "At Will" with excellent power and smooth shifts - Only took a very short time to get used to the electric steering - Found it to be effortless - Best of all got 30.8 MPG for the entire trip - Except that it needs a wash, can't find anything for the dealer to check - People don't know what they're missing !!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
  • billymaxxbillymaxx Posts: 12
    I had looked at the LaCrosse when shopping for the Malibu. It seemed to be marketed as a more luxurious car and I got the same impression when looking at it at the dealer. I didn't research it enough to compare features/quality vs. price but it seemed that the LaCrosse would be more money. My wife really wanted the LaCrosse but I told her that Buick is an old person's car (not meaning to offend anyone, just my impression of Buick's over the years. I am 32 and the wife is 28.) I was hoping that the LaCrosse was going to be different in body style that it would stand out from the rest of the other fuddy duddy Buick's but I was wrong. Looking at it from the rear it looks just like the Le Sabre.
  • bwolterbwolter Posts: 51
    For the hood deflector, go to www.autoseattle.com
    I got one from them and it's great.
  • >I got one from them and it's great.

    Which one?
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    this one

    http://www.autoseattle.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=hd5H04

    I too have one installed..you can see pics on my malibu website...

    http://home.att.net/~p.oswald
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