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Way to go girl!! I knew that you had it in you! You worked a deal that you can feel good about, as knowledge is power. Your homework paid off. Remember how you felt when you first thought about the car buying process?-you have come a long way.
I certainly concur with you regarding there being value in dealing with an upfront dealership with integrity. It amazes me how difficult they make it for you when you are trying to compare apples to apples, especially being a female.
I am so glad to have helped-
Would you mind sharing the name of the dealership that you decided to go with? I am just curious-
Best of luck with your new "ride"!
Bugg
I think the internet process works well for Honda because there are essentially no options...thus you are absolutely comparing apples to apples. I also (thanks to Mquillin) realize the importance of when asking for quotes to go to a dozen dealers if possible within a 100 mile radius and most importantly..make it clear you are ready to buy and not interested in dealing games but simply want their bottom line. It makes it easy to toss out those who only want to get you in the door.
Mquillin...I was tempted to ask the one guy for a color I knew they didn't have just to hear him say "oh yes...we'll get you that i promise" I ended up with Glacier Blue with gray leather. There was a good choice available.
Bugg..I purchased the car from Chambers Burlington but also got the same quote from Chambers Boston (same form email). It was as I said, not the lowest but the person to whom I spoke was far more professional than the other dealer. They made it clear they couldn't budge toward the other quote and I appreciated their being so straight forward. Called the lowest quote and was totally put off so called them back and said ok. Chambers Boston did a follow up, told them I purchased from Burlington due to location and they said great, glad you stayed in our family. Others still following up - one even saying I have 3 days to break the deal and come to them....not sure what they think would be enticing to me about a dealership with those ethics!
Best was experience in the dealership but of course I wasn't going in to do any haggling. Salesman that it was turned over to has been more than gracious and accommodating. I would recommend him to anyone who wants his name. He and finance ran through their "have to's" of add ons but from the beginning I made it clear I wasn't interested so they just skimmed through it.
Picking it up today.....
Yes, I love it when other dealers, who only tried to feed me a line of BS before I bought, call me up and tell me they could have matched or beaten the price I got. Some will admit that they just can't go that low, and that's OK. Every dealer is a different business.
Although the sales department at the dealer I bought from would not negotiate much at all on accessories, their parts department did agree to sell me accessories at internet prices, or close to it: rear tray, spoiler, spl grds. I only paid $220 for the spoiler, and since it's a painted part, I could inspect it to make sure there were no runs or sags. To me the small premium was worth it (by the way, drilling holes in a new car is not for the squeamish).
Prior to this date, the lowest price was $23,000 from two other local dealers then Boch came down to $22,600 and now Boch came down to $22,000.00 plus the doc fee (so essentially $22,298.00). I assume this is because the 2009's will be out soon. I did not have any trade in. I paid part cash and part financed- through AAA. I will pick up the car next week.
I found that the larger dealers, who obviously have more inventory, are more willing to give better deals on the '08s and the smaller ones can't compete in this particular year end selling. There are undoubtedly going to be differences in other parts of the country but were I shopping anywhere, I would be looking for invoice less a few hundred.
On the other hand, had I recently purchased one that wasn't priced as competitively, I would just ignore all this and enjoy my new car
Do these seem like good prices to you or do you think i can get lower...??
thx
Now I'm being offered a 6 year/75k wty for $995. Sales mgr says a) it covers all non-wear and tear parts, eg tires and brakes, and that if its not used in the 6 year coverage period it is fully refunded at the end. Of course, it also includes roadside assist and such, but I'm a big fan of AAA anyway. Seems reasonable but wanted some feedback. She (my friend) seems to think its worth it.
Any thoughts?
Rap
Extended Warranties are never worth the price -- for at least three years during the course of the 6 year extended warrany you will have regular factory warranty to rely on -- and over 90% of things that go wrong on a car do so in the first 6 months...
I would take the $995 and put it in a mutal fund and let it grow -- if you need something fixed after the 3 year mark then you at least have 995 (which would have grown to probably $1200 by then) to take care of any problems...
also right before your three year factory warranty runs out then if you still want to do it then you can easily pick up a three year additonal warranty for about $700 ...
SAVE YOUR MONEY
Rap
This is the lowest offer I am getting.
MSRP : $26,700
Invoice: $24,822
Offer : 25439 Plus Tax
This includes the destination charge of 670 so the car's price is : 24769 so it's about 50 bucks below invoice.
Could you please let me know if it's a fair offer or if I can do better?
Thanks
Then in the comments I wrote something like this:
I am ready to buy a CRV EX-L AWD with Navi and will do so within a week. Please provide BY EMAIL only a detailed quote.
Your quote should indicate the vehicle price, destination charges, document fees, licensing fees and any other fees I would incur.
I will respond to competitive quotes which include all fees and expect to complete the purchase within a few days.
I did not "deal" and didn't want to go back and forth trying to get the breakdown. For me it worked. Out of 14 requests I received 10 quotes, 8 of which were complete with the detail. If one was "competitive" and lacked detail I asked for a breakdown.
Good luck
I am ready to buy a CRV EXL 2WD with Navi and will do so within a week.
Please provide BY EMAIL only a detailed quote.
Your quote should indicate the vehicle price, destination charges, document fees, licensing fees and any other fees I would incur.
I am only looking for either Glacier Blue, Green Tea, or Red in color in that order.
I will respond to competitive quotes which include all fees and expect to complete the purchase within a few days. I will either pay cash, USAA bank draft or finance through your dealership, whichever gets me the best OTD price.
Due to my schedule I do not have time to "deal" or do call-backs to “get your best price” so to make this easy on everyone I have sent this to --Lowest deal gets the business.
You also might want to check the inventory on line of the dealerships you are writing to see who actually has the colors you want. I got Glacier Blue with gray....very nice. Good luck finding a green - I've not seen any in stock here in New England in months. There are several reds.
At this time of year, you will likely get your best quote from either a large dealer or someone who happens to have the car you want in stock.
I paid in cash.
Good Deal?
FWD EX-L 24,995 (includes Dest but not dealer admin fee 229)
FWD EX 22,500 (dest inc)
AWD EX 23,723 (dest Inc)
I think they should be able to go lower than this right?
i think it would be really helpful to everyone if when you are asking about "good quotes" you used a format that is
car price:
destination:
That is the information that is what you are after. Area taxes differ significantly and are not negotiable so what you really want to compare is the car price offered with the destination. Documentation is pretty similar within an area.
And be absolutely sure there are no "other" fees besides the documentation and licensing.
licesning fees were $180
Destination fee was $670 (waived).
I walked out paying $27,800 total.
this vehicle was purchased in Southern New Jersey at Willis Honda. I highly recommend them over Burns Honda in Marlton which is a "string you along then rip you off "joint. Glacier blue was the color, which is the one I wanted.
Happy hunting....
Wanda
Out of the 14 Honda Internet Departments within a 125 mile radius -
08 of the 14 said that they need to CALL me in order to get me the best deals
1 said that he couldn't give me a good quote till i drove down to Test Drive the car
3 of them said that I would need to come down to their store for the best deal...
4 asked for addtional info -- (I mean my email was so precise that I have no idea what additonal info they needed)
3 of the 14 did not reply
Only two of the 14 actually sent me a detailed breakdown of charges -- so i am going to ONLY work with those two...
I am with you -- I have no idea what good is it to have an Internet Sales Department when they want you to call them or tell you that you ned to come down for the best deal...
as for destination and dealership fees -- there is no way to "force" them to do anything -- only thing you can do is set your highest OTD price and if they can't get under that -- then walk ... thi is definitley a buyers market -- you just have to be willing to walk...
As far as waiting to next month for better deals -- My concern is that they are going to start running out of 2008 inventory because they are waiting for the 2009 to come in and by you waiting an extra month for a "great" deal then your're risking the chance of being left with nothing...
To me not worth the risk -- if the dealer is not budging though and you don't like the price --then shop around -- you just will have to go further out to find a better deal..
just ,my .02c
Having said that, the internet is a good place to start. Reward the dealer that is closest to meeting your quote requirements, but view that as a starting price for negotiations unless you are certain you probably can't improve on it (a very rare occurrence). Unless you have to buy a car right now, I wouldn't consider any price that isn't somewhere below dealer invoice (inclusive of destination), preferably by 2% or more--and that is invoice, not sticker. The 2008's are "day old bread," and that is only a good deal if you can get it for the right price. If that can't be achieved I think most people would be better served waiting for a 2009.
$ 19,343
Tax = 6.25%
License/Reg Fees = ~ $250-$260
Next lowest quote I got was $19,670.
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THis is the lowest quote from a dealer:
$23,678 + tax (7%) + ($165 for title/registration)
Do you think this is a deal or I get a better one?
Appreciate your opinion.
Thanks.
my question is: how can you guys get quotes which are $500 below invoice? i don't like calling and haggling but if everyone has to do this to get this price, probably i have to pick up the phone and follow up?
or, is the north NJ market always that tight?