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2013 and earlier-Honda CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • narenare Posts: 1
    I was told at the dealership in Okemos MI that 2WD are not being made, and will not be made for months (if at all). Have others heard this info?
  • My papers are inside the Car. I will go through it and let u know the itemized details. In meantime, please find below the approximate details .

    price: 23700
    Tax: 1850 (CA)
    Doc fee, dmv fee, etc: 400
    - got around seven fifty dollar rebate from Honda (if u will go through the Honda financing)
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    hi,

    I am looking to purchase the 2012 CRV EX- 2WD model. I am located in the bay area, CA. I talked to few dealers, and only South Bay Honda (Milpitas) seems to have the color and model that I want. I talked to Dublin Honda also, and I asked if they can give the car at invoice, and he said he can give it at Invoice + $1000, but they don't have the color that I want. Is this a good deal. I am planning to use the same price or start off with Invoice + $500 when negotiating with South Bay Honda.

    Numbers will come out like this (tentative)

    Option-1: Low Ball Invoice + $500

    Invoice + Destination + $500
    = $22,699 + $810 + 500
    = $24,009

    OTD = vehicle price + Tax,Tags,License at 9.35% approx
    = $24,009 + $2,248
    = $26,258

    Option-2: Invoice + $1000

    Invoice + Destination + $1000
    = $22,699 + $810 + 1000
    = $24,509

    OTD = vehicle price + Tax,Tags,License at 9.35% approx
    = $24,509 + $2,292
    = $26,801

    Do you guys think is it a good deal? I am thinking of starting off with option-1 and max option-2. Do you know of any other dealer who can beat this price? I will be taking external financing.

    It is weird that all the local dealers here have only a handful of 5 to 8 2012 models on the lot. Does anyone know when dealers are going to full inventory? Not sure if full inventory will lower the pricing, but at least customers will have more options to choose from.

    thanks
  • Anybody heard much on the LX models? I've gotten differing accounts from the dealers around here. Some are saying they will be available later this month; some are saying they're not even in production yet.

    However, I have gotten some price quotes on the LX already. Looking for one with no options, I've been quoted $22,600 (including destination fee, but not including tax & tag) and then $21,850 (same). Anyone else heard prices on the LX?

    By the way, this is in Mississippi.
  • I should've added that I'm looking at the 2WD
  • I plan to purchase a 2012 FWD EX-L in a week. Is it a good price for $500 over invoice, ads, dest.? I am living in San Jose, CA.

    Truecar invoice 25,157
    ads 270
    dest 810
    = 26,237 plus $500

    That would be 26,737 plus ttl,docs,tax as total.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    Yes, I would think so Invoice + 500 is a decent target. I would say start off with Invoice and then converge to Invoice + 500. Even I am thinking of buying EX 2WD. I am also in Bay area, San Jose
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    Just stumbled on the website of Clawson Honda in Fresno, CA. They seem to have lot of 2012 CRV vehicles.

    I selected Honda + 2012 + CRV + Any Trim

    "108 Vehicles currently match your selection, displaying 1 to 30"

    All my local dealers in bay area seem to have just under 10 vehicles, but these guys seem to have huge inventory.

    Any one have experience with these guys? I am yet to contact this dealer, and see what price they will offer. May be going on month end will work?

    Any other thoughts? I am looking for CRV EX 2WD. Targeting for Invoice + 500 max
  • It is a web page problem. You cannot select make/model, that's why you get a list of all type of Honda vehicles in the result report. I see there're about 20 of them.
  • There's a regional fee $244 from TureCar.com. I wonder if that is part of dealer's commission too.
    Does anybody know about this cost -- ads fee?

    thanks。
  • I talked to the sales by phone at South Bay last night. My feeling is that they will get the color you want if they are interested in doing business with you.
    I have got the quote by phone from the sales by phone, but I am wondering how much I should bargain when I go to their office.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    As I said, I think it is really hard to get a correct price on the phone. Once we are there in the dealer, start off with invoice and move upto invoice + 500 or invoice + 750. We should be ready to walk away. I would assume all the dealers will be getting more and more inventory in few days/weeks.

    One sales rep at stevens creek mentioned that all the cars in the first lot are coming directly from Japan, and she says later it will be local assembly. Not sure how much this is true, and if it makes a difference at all
  • If the VIN number starts with J, then it is made in Japan. The paper on the windows also tell you the location it was assembled, and the percentage of the parts made in US, as I remembered. (I have test drive about 7 cars in last weekend.)
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    Thanks, this is good info about VIN starting with J
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    I would think. All these can be negotiated to be taken out

    Mandatory/legit is only (vehicle + parts) invoice + destination + any nominal doc fee

    By the way, does anyone what is a reasonable doc fee in CA

    How much we should negotiate the doc fee for?
  • California's Doc fee is capped at $55
  • If it is starting with numbers, like 1,or 2, then it is assembled in US.
  • This is the first time I used the Internet to inquire the quote for new car purchase. Just want to share with you the result. I asked quotes for CRV 2WD EX-L in my neighborhood, the bay area. I think I will go to visit them over the weekend one by one from the top to bottom. It may not mean too much, but just an indicator how much they want to do the business with me.

    quote
    26,928
    27,045
    27,200
    27,288
    27,700
    27,751
  • that's a good deal.
  • ditadita Posts: 2
    need some help here folks. I'm moving to the bay area next week and only have 2 days before my new employment begins.
    I have narrowed down my crv to 2WD-EX with non acceptable colors being black,white and sage colors (all other colors acceptable).
    what is the best way to go about getting genuine quotes from the bay dealers and how wide should I cast the net? 50 miles? 100 miles?

    I'm coming from a small town where at most, we may have 2 or 3 dealers so it's easy to get quotes.

    In the bay area, there are 20 dealers, should I hit every one of their website and submit for a quote? or should I make my own email template and send it to each of the dealers (don't know their email id's).

    Also, in the Bay Area, do we need a AWD vehicle or a 2WD will suffice?
    we will primarily use this vehicle to get to work and for general pleasure...
    Thanks much
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    Hi dita, welcome to bay area ...

    I would recommend go u pto 100 mile radius. you should be able to find 25 to 30 dealers easily.

    Also, most dealers don't have internet sales department, in which case submit a quote request on their web site ...

    Ask for OTD quote.

    Since you are open to more colors, you should get better pricing.

    Don't go through sales folks, as you will incur commission. Deal directly with internet quote department.

    Do a test drive at a different dealer.

    Using this link you can find dealers up to 75 miles. I found it was convenient.
    http://applications.capitalone.com/jsp/dealerlocator/

    2WD is good enough in bay area
    My friend owns a 2009 CRV LX 2WD, for the past 3 years, and hasn't faced any problem.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    Is this OTD quote? If it is, then it is a very good deal. Anytime if we specify a price, I think it will help, if we clarify if it is OTD quote or just vehicle price.

    I was looking for CRV EX 2WD, and the best OTD qoute was around $26,500. If you got an OTD quote for $27,045, then I might as well upgrade to leather seats.

    Do you mind sharing who gave this quote. I got best quote from Berkely Honda and Auto West honda

    If it makes sense, we might as well do a group buy
  • Bought my new 2012 CRV EX 2WD yesterday. OTD 25100$. No options.
    I think its a reasonable deal. What you think?

    I'm in Dallas,TX.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    Could you please provide the breakdown, or the what was charged for vehicle price? It is really hard to tell because I don't how much is the sales tax, vehicle registration fee and doc fee.

    Seeing at the current trend, anything below $24,300 (just for the vehicle, not OTD) is a good price.
  • No. Those quotes are not OTD price. The best OTD price for CV-L FWD EX-L I have received from email so far is $29,502.
    I think maybe I should put $29,000 as my offer.
    Any advise.
  • mypathy2001mypathy2001 Posts: 5
    edited January 2012
    Wanted to add my $0.02, especially as many people on here are buying EX-L trims, I want people to people to know my wife's EX (Alabaster Silver Metallic) trim.

    Price paid: 23,800
    Doc fees: 479
    Lemon Law: 3
    Non tax fees: (tag, title): 179
    Tax (Georgia): 1,669
    Out the door: 26,100 roughly

    I could have saved about $600 probably as another dealer in another state would have knocked off many fees and matched the price..... but my wife and I have been looking for roughly 7-8 months and sold her car in November.... just ready to make a deal.

    Seems like it's impossible to find a White Diamond Pearl anywhere, especially in EX trim, I don't care for leather at all.

    So, did I get ripped a new one? After all the research, it seemed like a fair deal. Know I could have saved some money by waiting maybe 3-4 weeks, but was ready to purchase. Haven't even driven it yet. 80 miles in. :)
  • From my experience with Dealers in Austin and Kileen, I think it's a good deal. Do you mind telling me the name of the dealership?
  • I have got counter offer from one of the internet sales - 29,000 for financing price and 29,502 for cash price. this is OTD price for 2012 CV-L FWD EX-L car.
    All the other said the demand is high and don't proactively to give me a good number.
    Any advise for the next step?
    thanks.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    edited January 2012
    I went to two dealers yesterday, and this time the dealer has an upper hand. Also, dealer isn't trying hard to enough to sell as they don't have a lot of 2012 cars on the inventory. I talked to a sales manager, and he told a wise/honest thing. He said that "best deals are done when the dealer doesn't have any deals" i.e he indicated waiting for a rainy day, bad weather day, month end, when no one else is buying. On top of all, he first asked whether they have any car on the lot that I liked. If they don't have the car on the lot, then story ends there. They are not going to try hard enough, unless they are really making good deal on the price or struggling to meat the quota. He asked me to come check back later when they have the car in stock and he can do something at that time. This is a local dealer (stevens creek) is literally my next door (5 minutes walking distance). They also have policy of putting a $500 check to hold the car. They won't use the check, it is just to hold the car for you. I didn't put check yet, but planning to. May be they will just call me on one such rain day. Actually the sales manager was interested in the fact that I am next door, hoping that I will service the car with them as I am next door.

    Lot of time dealers are sending quotes just to get your foot in the door. If you call and talk to them, most of them don't have car on the lot, and they will tell that they can get you one, once you come and sign the papers.

    Yesterday I was at one dealership, the car was good but had more miles $250 miles as they said they did a dealer trade. Also, it has a very small paint chip from a door ding. These are the kind of unknowns involved if you buy without actually seeing the car. I walked away, by quoting a low OTD which the dealer didn't agree to.

    Based on my calculations, dealers are trying to pocket in a nice 5% profit on this price (invoice + destination - holdback).

    i.e dealer profit = vehicle price billed to you - (invoice + destination - holdback)

    Ideally it should be anywhere from 3% to 5%, but now they are going to the max 5%. The difference between 3% and 5% can be anywhere from $500 to $700

    right now, looking at the trend in bay area, CA, If you get equal or less than the below price, you got a very good deal.

    2012 CRV EX 2WD
    Vehicle price: $24,200 or OTD: $26, 600

    2012 CRV EX AWD:

    Vechicle price: $25,400 or OTD: $27, 900

    After some thought and discussions with couple of friends, sales folks, I feel it is worth upgrading to AWD. The price difference isn't that much. Around $1200 bucks, but if we wait a bit more longer, we could get better deals on AWD.

    I also took the unknown part out by financing with penfed. At least I have that peace of mind. They have good rates for 1.99% right now.

    To sum it up, it looks like better to wait few more days/weeks. Most of the dealers are getting new inventory now. Only thing is the vehicles in the newer lot won't be Japan VIN I believe, but not sure if that is going to make any difference. I would assume the quality of the car will be same.

    I will keep posting my thoughts, trends here. Happy shopping.
  • tpcooltpcool Posts: 15
    I am including a quote that I got from one of the dealers. This is to help people to avoid dealers who rip of customers with exorbitant prices and questionable fee. This particular dealer Autowest Honda of Fremont seemed to be fair in this quote, and all the prices seemed legit. I doubt if they have the color that I wanted (polished metal metallic). I haven't contacted them.

    2012 CRV EX 2WD Sample Quote for Bay Area, CA

    Vehicle Price: $25,205.00
    Preferred Customer Discount: - $1,007.00
    Total Selling Price: $24,198.00

    Sales Tax (estimate): + $2,003.27
    Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $8.75
    Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $227.00
    Flat Add/County Fee: + $20.00
    Electronic Filing: + $29.00
    Smog Abatement Fee: + $20.00
    Documentation Fee: + $55.00
    Balance Due (estimate): $26,561.02
    No Trade-In
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