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Mazda Protege Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Just bought a new 2003 Silver Protege5 for $14443 with 3.9% APR. Didn't have to do much haggling, and I'm thinking maybe I could have done better. I just offered them the Edmunds TMV which was $14943 minus the $500 college grad discount. Here are the options:
    Automatic Transmission
    ABS/Side Airbags
    Alarm system
    Cargo Net
    Wheel locks
    Rear Bumper Guard

    Seeing some of the other prices paid, I'm thinking maybe I should have haggled a little more, but the buying experience was rather pleasant. Maybe that's more important than going from dealer to dealer and dealing with slimy salesmen just to save a few hundred? I hope! Let me know how you think I did! This was at Brandywine Mazda in West Chester, PA (near Philly).
  • I visited two different dealerships today in the LA area. I was looking for leather,moonroof and 6-cd player, roof rack, rear bumper guard and wheel locks. Browning Mazda quoted $100 above invoice plus $2500 rebate, plus accessiories at cost, which with the dealer incentive of $500 gives them a $600 profit. They had one in red and after a test drive loved it. I stopped by another dealership who matched Browning Mazda's offer and had a Protege5 in laser blue, which was my first color choice.

    I told both dealerships I was trading my 1999 rav4 and would pay cash for the balance. Neither dealership would give me a trade in value, but I'm sure when I see them tomorrow with checkbook in hand I'll get a response.

    Whoever gives me the best trade-in for the rav4 sinks the deal.

    I own a 2003 V6 Mazda6 (so far no rust problems), which I love but was tired of the rav4. The Mazda3, with simular front end appearance to the 6, doesnt hold my interest, even with the upgraded engine, added features like telescoping steering column and appearance. The Protege5 is a great deal with the incentives. And I loved its raspy engine, which adds to the driving experience.

    I'll keep the members informed of the sale.
  • Silver Pro5 with:
     
    cloth
    automatic
    moonroof/6 cd player
    roof rack
    rear bumper guard
    cargo tray
    perimeter shock sensor alarm (installed at no charge)
    wheel locks
    roof cargo box

    $15,096 after $2500 rebate.

    Had a discrepancy with the dealer regarding trade-in value of my rav4 which resulted in $1400 less than I believed it was worth.

    The dealer and I initially settled on the roof cargo box($260) at no charge to offset the difference, then while the paperwork was being written I called another dealership asking them to expect my arrivial to see what they would offer as trade in. The sales rep. wasnt too happy with my approach. They didnt want to see me go. The head manager spoke to me and after discussing the matter offered me an additional $600 more for my trade. The deal closed.

    Checked out the Mazda3 hatchback. Nice car but I'm glad I opted for the Protege5.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    First congrats!!!

    Checked out the Mazda3 hatchback. Nice car but I'm glad I opted for the Protege5.

    Interesting comment! Did you testdrive the Mazda3 and Protegé5 back to back? I assume you refer to the huge rebate on the P5 that is going on right now and not the intrinsic quality of both cars, right?
  • Just curious, but why did you pick the Pro5 over the Mazda3? I LOVE my Pro5 but part of me wishes I had waited a couple months to compare to the 3.

    Congrats on your purchase, you'll love it.
  • the $3000 incentive (2500 customer and 500 dealer) are enough to tip the scales in the Pro's favor. Add the willingness to discount deeply compared to dealer markup on a brand-new design and the 3 just isn't a good value. This has nothing to do with the quality of performance of the 3, just the fire sale on Proteges makes it pretty stupid to buy anything else in the compact class.

    My 03 Protege DX with automatic, AC, 6 disc CD and cargo net was the same price as a Hyundai Accent. There is just no comparison.
  • Yes you're correct. Based on specs and my experience with my Mazda6, there is no doubt the M3 is a vast improvement over the Pro5. The M3 hatchback looked more upscale than the Pro5. The interior's center dash has a very clean look. Wasnt impressed with the gauges though. Prefer the Pro5 instrument panel. Seats are comfortable in both vehicles. It felt somewhat more confining in the M3 than the Pro5, partly because I'm 6'1" and the design of the M3's cowl. Less confining in my M6.

    I listened to both stereo's and overall I liked the Pro5 much better, partly due to the Pro5's subwoofer. I'm a firm believer in how a subwoofer enhances sound quality. I'm not sure if the M3 has this feature.

    I dont drive stick so I did not drive the M3. But we both know the M3 engine is more powerful. I suspect the M3 ride will be less firm than the Pro5. The Pro5 test drive reminded me of my rav4 in regards to engine performance and firm ride. Its not the fastest merging freeway entrance ramps but adequate in city driving. Although it had enough pep driving on the freeway I did not tackle any demanding inclines.

    My interest in the Pro5 stemmed from 3 different perspectives. First, I own a M6. I like the interior and sedan styling better than the M3 hatchback. In my opinion the M3 needs a V6. And the integration from front end to rear on the M3 hatchback doesnt appeal to me. I like the looks of the Pro5 better. Yes, it feels somewhat dated but thats part of the reason why I like it. I took 3 different test drives with the Pro5 and each time came away with the impression that the driving experience is involving and fun. Again, no test drive of the M3, so I cannot comment.

    Second, I drove a rented Toyota Celica on my vacation to AZ two months ago. Although I hated the uncomfortable seats I enjoyed the driving experience of a small car. It handled well too. I also needed a vehicle which was functional, since I do at times go camping or on bike rides. So when it was time to replace the Toyota rav4 (fed up with repeated iac valve assembly failures costing me about $400 every 15,000 miles)I wanted something functional that had a simular driving experience as the Celica. The Pro5 fit the bill.

    Third, Pro5 price. This is a hell of a deal right now. To get such a good overall package for around $15,000 is incredible. Yes, the M3 will eventually be discounted. But I do not believe it would have made any difference, because I own the M6, which fits my needs for a classy automobile.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    it seems you give a serious though before your decision of getting the P5 and all make sense. I have seen many people bash the Protegé(5) because simply they are impressed by the Mazda3, but without knowing both cars. I'm actually quite happy to read your though.
  • brajabraja Posts: 25
    I have been seeing prices like $10K for what
    looks like 03 Pro LX (from the feature descriptions). The best real quote I got though
    is $12K for LX, 5 Speed with Cassette. Has anyone
    found anything cheaper than this, considering all
    the ads?

    Also, any thoughts on what might happen after 12/1 when the rebates are supposed to end? I
    wonder if the dealers will be pressured to sell
    for less to clear the lot before the arrival of
    3.

    Thanks.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    So that might be a little cheaper.

    Automotive News had a story the other day saying Mazda NA will be hitting the media hard with Mazda3 advertising starting Thursday, January 1.

    Meade
  • I looked hard for a stripped DX with 5-speed and just couldn't find one in the Los Angeles area. My car (DX auto, AC, 6-disc CD and cargo net) was $14,700, which is $400 under invoice. After the $3500 incentives it was $11,200.

    A DX 5-speed with AC and nothing else, had one been available, would at the same discount cost around $10,100. I would have bought it regardless of color at that price, but I'm still happy with the price I paid for the automatic.
  • I reviewed my sales contract and realized I received a better deal than I thought on my Pro5 purchase. Here's the breakdown...

    Silver Pro5 with:
     
    cloth
    automatic
    moonroof/6 cd player
    roof rack
    rear bumper guard
    cargo tray
    perimeter shock sensor alarm (installed at no charge)
    wheel locks
    roof cargo box

    Cash Price and accessories was:

    $16,680-2,500 Mazda rebate= $14,180-$8080 Toyota rav4 trade in=$6100 + $1379.81 sales tax= $7479.81 + $45 doc. fee= $7524.81 + $160 lic. fees= $7684.81. Paid balance by check.

    Instead of paying $15,096 it was actually $14,180 after the $2500 rebate. Good luck to those who will make a purchase soon.
  • Purchased a Silver Protege5 with following Options:
    ABS & side Airbag
    Roof rack

    Dealer: Magnussens Fremont Mazda, Fremont CA

    Price:
    15,155 ($3000 dealer discount)
    1,447 (State sales tax, Tire fee, DMV registration etc)
    -2,500 Mazda Factory rebate

    Total out the door price = $14,102

    This was $5,500 off the dealers MSRP of 18,155.

    I dealt with the internet fleet manager for the last few weeks and give her my terms. There are quite a number of Protege5s on the dealers' lots in the SF bay area so most will offer at least $5,000 off the price of any P5. The deal was perfect, no problems or tricks. Hope you have a good buying experience too.
  • brajabraja Posts: 25
    Is the sales tax applied on the amount AFTER
    the $2500 rebate or before? My dealer says
    before. Is this right? (Does this depend
    on the state? Mine is NJ)

    Thanks.
  • You are still paying the sale price on the car, the rebate functions as a down payment.
  • braja,

    When you agree to purchase the car, the $2500 is a direct payment to you from the factory. You then use it as part of your payment on the vehicle. So sales tax is figured on the higher price before the rebate comes in the picture.
  • zzhungzzhung Posts: 12
    West,

    Congrats on your new P5. Did your purchase include any factory financing? We live near that dealership, and are planning to get one from there or other dealership in the bay area if the price is good.

    Thanks
  • zzhung,

    No financing. If you want to use the Mazda 0% financing, then you will not get the $2500 factory cash rebate. Only deal with the internet/fleet sales managers. Good luck.
  • zzhungzzhung Posts: 12
    Bought a silver P5 thru same lady as "westk1" in post #158.
    silver P5
    roof rack
    bumper guard (installed, didn't really want it)
    wheel locks (uninstalled, in plastic bag)
    MSRP 17740
    cash price $14754 + tax/lic/doc/tirefee - $2500 factory rebate

    West,

    We got a higher face-to-face quote until we mentioned your transaction. Was looking for
    silver+abs+rack also. Final price was a bit more than yours after adjustment for
    the abs which we don't have. Someone from the dealership had installed the front plate
    frame slanted and off centered, but we didn't notice until final inspection. It's going
    to have two extra screw holes on the front bumper underneath the plate after we re-align
    the plate mounting, a bummer for us. Thanks for your posts.
  • Bought a 2003 Pro ES manual with the moonroof/CD package tonight.

    Sticker price of 17,090.
    After discounts, rebates, grad cash = 11,390.
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