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Dodge Dart/Plymouth Valiant

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,846
    Oh, it's like a $1.99 part, and you can get them at just about any auto parts store. Or, at least you used to be able to. Now, the last time the one in my '68 Dart failed, that car would still run, but it just ran really badly. The way the mechanic explained it to me, when the ballast resistor failed it allowed the full current to go to the distributor, and that fried the points.

    I dunno how interchangeable the parts are, but by '79, Chrysler was still using ballast resistors in their cars. At least, both my NYer and 5th Ave have this thing mounted on the firewall that's a dead ringer for one! Only difference is, it's on the passenger side, versus the driver's side on the Dart.
  • poncho65poncho65 Posts: 3
    Ok we now have a new ignition switch, new ballast resistor and starter solinoid; what we do not have is constant ignition. Again the car seems to ignite when the key is turned to the start position when released to the run position it dies instantly.... I am still totally lost. anyone know where i can find a wiring diagram for this hunk of steel?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    Okay, do this:

    Turn key to ON position.

    Take test light, ground one end, stick pointer onto PLUS side of ignition coil.

    Do you get a light? If not, your ignition switch or wiring is bad or mixed up.

    Trace it back from the PLUS side of the coil and checked every connection until you find voltage somewhere. You must have a break.

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  • poncho65poncho65 Posts: 3
    Thank you very much for your assistance it was a broken ground wire to the ignition wiring harness
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,593
    That drives people nuts.

    Good Job, Joe!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    (BOW)

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,846
    Good. Now get over here and get my 338,000 miles, hasn't started in 6 years POS edition '68 Dart running, Shifty! :P
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    I....am.....getting....a......message.....from.....your.....car......it....needs- ....a......a.....a......no, the message has faded....

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  • redddoggredddogg Posts: 3
    I have a 65 dart gt i am starting to restore the car but i am missing the chrome for the front of the hood . any idea where i might get one?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    Get a copy of Hemmings motor news and start there. First you call the parts guys, then you call any club that might have GT members, then you can even call up people selling GTs and ask them about parts they got for their restorations.

    www.hemmings.com

    It's all out there, somewhere, but you gotta dig on a car like yours.

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  • jbonerojbonero Posts: 2
    ebay or craigslist too.
  • jbonerojbonero Posts: 2
    I know it's old but this question show up in Google so here are some schematics for a 65 Dart:

    1965 Dodge Dart (Schematic A)

    1965 Dodge Dart (Schematic B)
  • I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the towing capacity for this car is. I would like to pull a small travel trailer with it but I'm not sure how large it can be so the car can comfortably pull it. I plan on buying a vintage trailer somewhere in the same year range as the car and work on them both as a restoration project. Any info would be appreciated thanks.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,846
    I have no idea, but as a wild guess I'd say maybe 2000 lb, max. While a Valiant may not seem like a small car by today's standards, back then it was considered a compact. In stock form, the Valiant with the 225 engine had a 2.76:1 axle ratio, and 9" manual drum brakes. Around 110 hp net (145 gross), and maybe 185 ft-lb of torque, I'd guess. I don't think it would be able to tow much, without some beefing up.

    I guess if you could swap in different gears, maybe 10" brakes off a V-8 Valiant/Dart, and perhaps install a transmission cooler and oil cooler, maybe the car would be a better tow vehicle? A 2.94:1 axle was standard in 1967, and optional in later years. That would probably be better, but still maybe not enough?
  • I plan on converting to power disc brakes cross drilled and slotted rotors and probably changing the gear ratio. I would like to keep it mostly original. I want to keep the slant six. The trailer doesn't need to be very large probably about 14 -16 foot or so. Based on that I will find out the gross weight of some trailers of that size.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    you may want to check into getting a larger radiator, from a v8?, and adding a transmission cooler.
  • OK thanks. I will definitely be adding a trany cooler and a larger radiator couldn't hurt.
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,510
    I used my '72 Duster with a 198/manual 3 spd. to pull a small Uhaul trailer from Houston to San Francisco, no problems. I had previously installed a bigger radiator and a large-capacity fan. I imagine it was well under 2000 lbs, so if you're talking travel trailer, it had better be small!

    Note-while drilled and slotted rotors are good for looks, they actually aren't better for overall braking performance, and all that drilling and slotting actually can weaken the rotors. Disc brakes sure would be an improvement over the drums, though
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    I'd say nothing over 1,000 lbs and even that is pushing it. You have everything against you--small engine, no transmission cooler, drum brakes, and no doubt an economy differential gearing.

    So that's about the weight of a U-Haul closed trailer that's 5 X 8 foot and empty.

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  • texasestexases Posts: 5,510
    Sounds about right. With my manual tranny I had one less thing to worry about. I used (and loaded up :surprise: ) the smallest Uhaul trailer-might be smaller than 5x8? It was 'fun' passing a guy on PCH...
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