Nissan Titan

texaszach

I don't mind ordering, although the dealers here in Dallas are saying 6 to 8 weeks from the day Nissan picks up the orders (first week of each month). I'm looking for:

King Cab SE 4x4
White ext. graphite/titanium interior
SE Popular Pkg w/Captains Chairs
Off Road Pkg
Floor Mats

Notice there is not a drop in bedliner or Utility bed package. I will add a spray in liner at my local Rhino dealer here. Not wanting Big Tow pkg as, if I understand this correctly, it adds the trailer tow mirrors. Built the truck on the Nissan web site, ran the locator for 100 mile radius of Dallas, no luck.

Any help would be appreciated.

TZ

bowke28

i would think about the bed pkg. for $900, its not alot more than the rhino liner by itself, and you get soooo much more. i think you would regret not having the pwer outlet, tie-down cleats, etc...

saddaddy

Is it just like the Tacoma's, with a button that is pushed? I hope they didn't copy Toyota that way (it is an awesome setup any way you slice it however). Thats kinda like Ford bragging on rear shock placement on the new F-150s when Toys have been like that for 8 years.

I digress -- can the locker come on titans with the brake assisted traction control as well? Is it one or the other?

And if it is anything like Tacomas', you can just do about 10 minutes worth of wiring work to get the locker to engage in any xfer case speed. Lockers aren't useful everyday, but for offroad situations, they make an LSD look just plain silly. Thanks for your help, Im glad to see this as an option on other trucks.

texaszach

From my reading here, it seems a fair number of the spray in liners from Nissan are peeling badly. I read in one of the Nissan forums here that LineX is about to pull out of the deal with Nissan. (shrug)

Rather than have problems I'd just as soon have the aftermarket spray in.

This could be an error on my part but not having lived with the utility bed pkg, I doubt I'd miss it. The aggravation of a peeling spray in would cut a year off my life! (OK, maybe just 6 months)

carbuff

Titan brochures say premium fuel is required. Has anyone tried using regular? I don't like the idea of having to pay an extra $.20 for premium.

keanec

Just a word of caution - becareful relying on what you read in these forums. When you see problems with vehicles, remember that many people come here to tell their problems and see who else might have them and how they solved them. Many, many more don't come here to say they are problem free. Also, even if you found 10 owners who have the peeling bedliner problem, that is an insignificant number of owners of Titans.Your chances wouyld be very remote of getting this problem

keanec

Premium gas is NOT needed in the Titan. The brochure is incorrect! There are many sources (owners manual, service manual, Nissan Website) that verify premium gas is NOT needed.

usmc0802

I have almost 1300 miles on my Titan, with the only one tank of 92 octane (when the dealer gave me chit); otherwise it has been 87 octane the remainder, with no problems. My owner's manual doesn't say anything about premium fuel; it only states that unleaded fuel is required.

usmc0802

I am averaging 12-13 mpg in city driving & around 16 mpg highway

bowke28

i have to agree with keanec. we have the biggest nissan store in the state, and ive heard NOTHING about peeling bedliners. we have a couple SE's with the pkg that have been here since dec/jan, and neither have peeled. one is in the showroom with all the bed accessories, and no peeling with hundreds of people climbing in and out. try and keep things in perspective.

my0my0my

Since I can not order an SE CC with Bench Seat AND curtain airbags with a utilibed package, I had the bright idea to order the utili-channel components myself to an XE. I was advise by Nissan that although the same in size there is some difference in construction between the SE and XE beds. Is this just a marketing ploy or has anyone else heard of such a difference. It should be notice by sight - the two beds are identical - the XE even comes pre-drilled and tapped where the utili-channel would be. hmmmm...

offroadnarmada

I purchased an Armada a month ago because I liked the length vs. the Titan... I am almost starting to regret it. If you take a look at the Armada board, we are having a lot of problems. I am curious to know, are you Titan owners are having any issues? Save the "resonance" problem which should be SUV-only, almos everything else in the two vehicles are identical... almost.

-Thanks

usmc0802

I did not order the Big Tow package w/ my Titan (I too did not want the big, goofy mirrors); I just installed my aftermarket hitch & I have a question for the group about the electrical wiring: is the non-Big Tow package Titan pre-wired? I found a electric wire thing behind the bumper that appears to be for that purpose, but can't seem to get the faceplate/cover off. Any scoop out there?

bknight

I did order the Big Tow for the following reason. It "increases towing capacity to the maximum 9,500 lbs. on the King Cab (9,400 lbs on the Crew Cab) and includes Vehicle Dynamic Control, a lower final gear ratio (3.36), heavy-duty battery, extendable tow mirrors (with a wide-angle mirror), automatic transmission temperature gauge, Class IV receiver hitch, additional 7-pin wiring harness, and trailer brake controller pre-wiring under the dash."

The VDC was the big deal for me, because it not only can save you butt if you start to lose it with a trailer but also includes the Active Brake Limited Slip system, which is supposed to give one "phenominal traction" even with the 4X2.

I may be a sucker, but it seemed worth the few extra $$ to me. The mirrors are also quite functional.

jhawk5

Hello: This is NOT a flame post...I saw what happened to the other thread about this topic.

I may be in the market for a new truck and am looking at a Titan and a Ram. I did a short test drive on a King Cab Titan the other day, and test drove a Ram about a year ago. I like both trucks. For those of you who also comparisoned shopped, what were your thougths about these two trucks? Do the Rams have any common mechanical problems (I've just started hanging out in a Ram forum to learn about such stuff)? I know there have been some complaints about the Titan's bed liner peeling and the RF stereo fading out. Any info or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

bearbrawn

Nissan will fix the problems without pause...

Dodge will fight tooth and nail to avoid accepting any responsibility for their problems.

They are undergoing some big changes - they will get up to Nissan's level again someday, maybe.

I drove Dodges for 25 years - and had great luck with them - but Daimler-Chrysler is a different beast.

bowke28

i would be sure to drive both as close together as possible. the one you like better will be the best bet. most of my customers cant remember what kind of car they test-drove a week ago, let alone whether they liked it or not.

offroadnarmada

Even though Nissan might be having some issues with their trucks (as expected for any first year model), so far I haven't heard anyone report issues with the drivetrain. On the other hand, I have heard of Dodge trannys AND engines going out at least a hundred thousand miles before they should. Everyone I have talked to has had the parts replaced under warranty, but still, replacing a faulty part doesn't always fix the issue...

bearbrawn

Shouldn't be buying a new vehicle...

And most who have reportedly driven the Titan - had an experience they wouldn't soon forget.

dirkwork

Maybe my '95 Ram was too close to a new model to be representative, but it had some troubles with cheap parts I have not had with imports. I had less than 75k on the clock and was a yuppie owner, did not work it hard, yet I had to replace the evaporator on the AC, the steering box, the speedometer unit in the dashboard (a $400 part), an electric window motor, a HVAC vacuum motor.

I think someone else hit the nail on the head is that domestic trucks cost about the same, but with the UAW labor rate they have to use cheaper parts where the imports can use better quality materials and parts, which makes the vehicle better. IMHO, we can design just as good of a car as anyone here in the states, but our overpaid labor would make the cars uncompetitive. Where else do you get the paid $80k a year with benefits that would amaze most folks and incredible retirement plans, just for installing seats, lights, gas tanks, etc.

Ok, I'll get down off my soap box.

DD

bowke28

i have no problem with people making as much money as they can...but you are right. it IS at the expense of the consumer in this case, more than any other.

bearbrawn

Somebody explained it here awhile back....

When the CEO wants to turn the profits up - he tells his suppliers to give them cheaper parts - or we'll go somewhere else...

The supplier says, Okay, now if we have to sell the parts cheaper - we'll have to use cheaper materials...

I don't mind union representation... But I do have a problem with not being able to terminate an employee who does not want to earn the pay he receives.

bowke28

i had a customer that was looking for an f250 to tow a 8800 lb. camper. i mentioned to him that he can save about $10000 and get a titan crew cab that will do the job. we drove the titan, and he loved it. he said that he was uncomfortable buying the truck without testing it with his camper, so we went to his house to try it out.

we hooked it up and pulled it out of the backyard, and here are the results:

1) the camper's tongue weight was around 1100 lbs, so it was a little front heavy. this was a little much for the truck.

2) in a straight line, the titan was a hero! even with 9000 lbs. behind us, acceleration was outstanding!!!

3) turning was easy uphill, but downhill, due to the heavy tongue weight, the camper tended to push the truck a bit. this can be scary on a downhill grade on a mountain.

verdict:

while nissan made the true capacity of the truck in a straight line very strong (maybe even well over 10k lbs.), the tongue weight capacity is a little weak for a front-heavy camper. if you have a 9k lb. boat or well-balanced trailer, you will have no problems at all. just watch your tongue weight, and make sure it isnt over 900 lbs.

dirkwork

Well, I honestly don't know the labor cost on a new vehicle, but I was all pro-USA and big 3 until I visited my wife's relatives in Michigan. They were all UAW workers, and while some were ok, the bulk of them were pretty scary. There was no drive to produce good cars, it was "US" vs. "Management" and they would constantly [non-permissible content removed] about all sorts of things. I heard stories that would raise your eyebrows. Guys who would punch in and then sleep in the boxes because they were hungover. One guy was working but hungover and he wanted a break so he stuffed a rag into the drive chain of the line and it caused a main breaker to blow shutting down the entire line (so he got his break). Another story about a guy who worked with them who saved and bought a corvette, and he parked way away so they...keyed it because he was being uppity. One new manager came in and got on their rear-ends (I wonder why) and he drove all around in his golf cart. They took the cart when he wasn't looking and hid it under some large boxes, and used it for joyriding around the plant - on the clock of course. After they had their way with it, they put the cart in the crusher to "show him". This is just a few stories I overheard.

I like to see folks get a fair wage but when they are earning more than most college grads with full vision, dental, healthcare benefits (even in retirement) for just doing what about anyone on the street could be trained to do in a few hours (in most cases) and then to have this attitude, it gets me riled up.

I drove home and told my wife, I'm really not pumped up to buy any more UAW built cars after that experience!

Bowke - that towing story is good useful information, I'll get off my soap box now and try to be more on topic.

I live in Houston TX and we have as many pickups on the road as other vehicles it seems, and I've only seen one Titan yet, but they are in our papers for pretty cheap, if you are looking for one try our dealers, might be worth a trip to Texas.

DD

bowke28

"I wouldn't tow 9000 pounds on ANY truck rated for 9000."

thats why this was rated for 9500. ;-)

again, the camper weight wasnt even an issue. the truck would have pulled 11k lbs. even the truck's brakes alone were really good (although you dont want to stop too much without trailer brakes hooked up) the only problem was the fact that there was over 1100 lbs. on the tongue. his camper was uncharacteristically front-heavy. a normally balanced load of 9000 lbs. should have a tongue weight of about 900 lbs. (10%)

armen

Pardon me for my naivete, bowke28, but can you please explain what tongue weight is? I'm about to get my Titan with the tow package and would like to know. Thanks a bunch!

mac24

It's the weight that the trailer brings to bear down on the tow vehicle hitch. The nose weight of the trailer if you like.

Ten percent of the total trailer weight is the usual guideline.

armen

I appreciate the response.

mac24

Sorry, but I have to disagree. The amount you can put in the bed of the truck is the carrying capacity, not the tongue weight.

The tongue weight is simply the weight of the trailer tongue that bears on the vehicle's tow hitch.

The tongue weight can obviously affect the overall carrying capacity, but it is a totally separate specification. By definition, it's the weight of the trailer tongue.

bowke28

i wasnt coming down on you for nitpicking. my customer didnt buy the titan because he needed a 1200 lb. tongue capacity. i actually agree that he did the right thing. i think, however, the titan would pull more than the posted 9500 lbs. safely if it were a 5th wheel. it was THAT powerful!

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rsholland

The tow rating is only part of the equation, you also have consider the tongue rating. The guy opted for the 3/4 ton F-250 Super Duty, I'm assuming. As for 1/2 tons, the Titan can tow with the best of the bunch. However, a 3/4 ton it's not.

Bob

bowke28

it actually tows (raw weight only) as well as the v10 in the ford. the only difference was the fact that the camper put too much weight on the back of the truck. it was a little unstable around corners. (the camper pushed the truck a bit)

mac24

We're only at odds over the first sentence of your earlier post (#798)........"Tongue weight is essentially what you put in the bed of the pickup.".........

Again.......... the tongue weight is the weight of the trailer tongue, which bears down on the vehicle's trailer hitch.

You are correct in saying that the tongue weight has a bearing on the amount that can be carried in the pickup bed. However, the relationship is not linear, and axle loading has to be taken into consideration as well. Distribution of the load in the bed is an important consideration. Anything in front of the rear axle will contribute to a higher load on the front axle, and anything behind the rear axle (including tongue weight on the hitch) will reduce the load on the front axle. This is why manufacturers provide axle load capacity figures. It's easy to exceed one or other of those figures without being close to the maximum towing or carrying limits.

Although most people don't worry about this too much, the guys that drive the cars with the blue flashing lights are very aware of it, and they know how to do the necessary calculations! A trip to a nearby weigh-bridge or scale can be an eye opener.

nds

Can you cite an example of someone in non commercial vehicle being escorted to scales to check axle weights? I have been towing coast to coast border to border for over 30 years and have never heard of this being done.

mac24

I was suggesting that a voluntary trip to a nearby scales would be an eye opener, especially with regard to exceeding axle loading without exceeding the maximum vehicle and towing limits.

While I can't cite any specific examples without doing some research to provide documentation, I've seen apparently 'private' pickup trucks towing apparently 'commercial' loads (machine parts, building materials etc.) being stopped and checked by the 'truck bears'. They use a deserted ten mile stretch of US19 near me to play on. The only time I've seen a travel trailer rig being investigated was when it had pulled over to change a wheel. Wrong time and place!

Of course, this doesn't mean that you won't get stopped if your totally private rig of any sort looks to be out of balance i.e. nose up tail down. Nor does it mean you won't get a full check over if a dirtbag drunk runs into you! Highway Patrol et al. are obligated to check out both parties in a collision. If there are injuries, or worse, a fatality, the check out will be very thorough!

arouth

Hello,

I have seen a few of them on the roads, i'm just wondering how these bad boys are doing? Its been on the market now for 3 months. Its a nice truck. I might get one in a year or so.

mdziekonski

After 4,000 miles I made my 1st trip back to the dealer, only problem were the brakes. They were completely warped already which made the truck vibrate while braking. (they replaced them under warranty) Anyone eles notice this problem? I'm also averaging 12mpg (I'm hoping this will improve), how is everyone eles doing with there mileage & etc..

bearbrawn

I heard incorrect lugnut torque will cause that...

They should have checked them at PDI.

atlgaxt

But I am new to the thread. After going to the auto show in Atlanta a month ago my wife and I are smitten with the Titan, and are considering an upgrade to a Titan within the next year.

On my current truck I have a roll'n'lock. This is an awesome cover that is easy to open and close and is secure when closed. I don't want a hard fiberglass cover that has to be removed or sits open when I have something in the bed. I don't want a soft vinyl, non secure cover that needs to be rolled or painstakingly snapped into place.

Is there a rolling cover that fits the Titan with the bed utility package? If not, I would settle for a folding one, but I am wondering if either can be fitted to this truck. A couple of people asked similar questions in earlier posts but I never saw an answer. I love the truck, but the inability to put a simple to use and secure cover would be a deal breaker for me.

Thanks!

bowke28

any truck accessory shop can form-fit one to the titan. they are versatile that way. there is none available from nissan, but they are everywhere else.

atlgaxt

I can keep my Titan daydreams going a little longer.

keanec

The only issue you will find with this type of cover (and some other types) is the utilitrac system on the Titan. If you don't order it you will have no problem finding what you want. Some tops are already being made that allow you to have the utilitrac system.

 If you areen't buying right now, there are more covers (in all styles) that are adapting to the utilitrac. Try searching on Titan Accessories or just titan to find some or to find other forums which have more info.

You will love the Titan!!!

habby

I took delivery on my new Titan yesterday.Got to take it for a 300 mile ride today. What an awsome truck...much better than the 97 F150 I had a few years ago. And to top it off I got a little over 15mpg on the first tank!

rac66

I just installed a Pace Edwards Jack Rabbit roll-top bed cover on my Titan King Cab. It was relatively easy to install, and looks great! Look here for probably the best price online (They'll also match anyone's price -$20 if you find it anywhere cheeper): www.truck-bed-covers.com/JackRabbit_hard_truck_bed_covers.htm

rac66

I have a 4x2 Titan LE King Cab. I have a boat, and often end up spinning one tire on the boat ramp pulling the thing out of the water. My last truck had a limited-slip diff, and never had a problem. Nissan doesn't offer a "post purchase" LS upgrade. I do know the Titan has a Dana rear axle, and several after-market companies make limited-slip conversions for almost every Dana model. Has anyone installed LS or Posi on their Titan? Does anyone know exactly which Dana model it is (30, 35, 30, 44, 60,...)? Daughes, any help???

bowke28

gmhellman

I purchased a GMC Sierra 1500 in 2002. I love my truck, but if I had known that the Titan was being produced I would have waited. I went to the local dealership to sit and view one. The 33" tires are wonderful. I think the overall design is a bit edgy without crossing the border like the Azted or the Avalanche with the plastic cladding. I work at a Regional Medical Center and most of the Physicians are buying fully loaded Titans and have had nothing but good things to say about them......and these guys are pretty damn picky.

rac66

bowke28, I did some searching on-line, and found references to a Dana-44 varient, or Dana Super-44 used in the Titan. Will a standard Trac-Loc or Auburn LS carrier designed for the Dana-44 work? Any help is tremendously appreciated!!!
Rich C.

tiltboy

I put a post in another section and didn't get much of a response. What kind of prices are you new Titan owners paying? I had a dealership quote about $1000 over invoice, and that was just a brief phone call to check their inventory.