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Nissan Titan

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  • davantdavant Posts: 294
    Bob,

    Forgive me other readers as this departs from the post.

    Subaru? Not insulting but they aren't really mainstream, at least down here. Up north and in Colo the Forrester seemed to be as common as a civic, and for good reason, reliable, versatile, and great in bad traction situations, a little too quirky for my tastes.

    Since this is a Nissan board (Titan, but taking a time out) I have to know your thoughts on the Murano. Is it a feeble attempt at a crossover sport or what the newest generation sees as their family wagon successor?

    I was born in Ball'mer city in '60 but grew up in the burbs, Pikesville, Reisterstown, moved to Frederick area in '72. I remember floating raw bar/barges where the Light Street pavillion thingies are now. I WAS a Colts fan, have my personalized autographed Brooks Robinson baseball, and remember the riots even though I was still a punk. Eventually I migrated to Gaithersburg (actually it migrated to me, LOL). I came down here because there was work and it's too ^%*#$&%$# cold up there. MD is pretty, I miss fishing Calvert Cliffs too, (why does my fish have 3 eyes?), LOL. Keep the passionate reviews flowing.

    Davester
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    << Subaru? Not insulting but they aren't really mainstream, at least down here. Up north and in Colorado the Forester seemed to be as common as a civic, and for good reason, reliable, versatile, and great in bad traction situations, a little too quirky for my tastes. >>

    Mainstram they're not, which is one of the reasons I love them. AWD, and their fairly recent discovery of performance is the other. I'll never buy another vehicle, or car at least, that's not AWD. I really am looking forward to the new 2.5L turbo Forester which will be introduced in about 14 hours (from the time of this posting) at the Chicago auto show.

    << Since this is a Nissan board (Titan, but taking a time out) I have to know your thoughts on the Murano. Is it a feeble attempt at a crossover sport or what the newest generation sees as their family wagon successor? >>

    I drove a Murano a couple of weeks ago. I was very curious about the CVT tranny. Frankly I was very impressed with the vehicle. It's quite powerful, and is one of the sportiest (in terms of handling) SUVs that I've driven.

    It's not perfect. There is a very bad blind spot created by the rear quarter window, when you're looking over your right shoulder, while backing. That's clearly a concession to design. The new Infiniti FX45 has an even worse blind spot. I sat in one at the Baltimore car show. I also wonder how the CVT will hold up in the long run, especially if you do any towing. I also prefer the full-time AWD that Subaru offers, rather than the on-demand AWD that the Murano offers.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    I guess, to keep this topic alive, some "topic drifting" can be allowed, as there is only so much you can say about the Titan until it arrives.

    The Crew cab reportedly will be shown in April at the NY Auto show&#151;unless Nissan surprises us at the Chicago auto show. There also will be an SUV derived off this platform. I've heard it will have an IRS, like the new Expedition. I've also heard it may(?) be the next Pathfinder, and that it be actually be on sale before the pickup!

    Bob
  • ryanbabryanbab Posts: 7,240
    Ill keep my eyes open at the chicago autoshow for any surprises. Ill be there next monday (2-17-03)
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    just showed a Tundra Double Cab at Chicago. Check the Edmunds coverage of the Chicago show. The link is on the Edmunds Home Page.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    Got the new issue of AutoWeek in the mail today. On the cover is a headline saying the "new Nissan full-size SUV uncovered."

    So I go inside looking for this article&#151;and can't find a thing! Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch...

    Somebody dropped the ball...

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=4561

    The next Pathfinder will be full-size, and will be built off the Titan platform. A couple of reports have mentioned that it will have an IRS, like the new Expedition. There is no mention of that here, however. The sketch looks great, IMO.

    It will be introduced at the NY auto show this spring.

    Bob
  • davantdavant Posts: 294
    Bob,

    I got my Autoweek too. There are 13 color pages of the full size Nissan SUV inside & out to include a 4-fold centerfold, wowee! What a shame you're missing it hero. I guess your postman is also excited about it, check your page numbers, you'll see what I mean.

    NOT! I could almost hear the page scrambling from here. I hope Nissan makes it available this year.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    Don't tease me like that. I might have a coronary! ;)

    Bob
  • Still just a little excited huh? You may wanna take a chill, before you do have a coronary!

    LOL, just kidding!
  • jeff186jeff186 Posts: 95
    It seems Nissan listed pre-intro pricing for the Titan on its website, according to autoweek. The MSRP info is down now but it supposed to be put back up soon.
  • another sweet nissan...went to auto show today and holy crap its amzing and stylish and powerful and useful

    they handed out the biggest poster i have ever seen at the car show today for thsi truck
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    is really becoming a master of platform sharing. This link says that the Titan platform will be used worldwide in future trucks, and will be scaled down a bit for the future Frontier and Xterra.

    http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43257

    Bob
  • kcflyerkcflyer Posts: 78
    I don't see the handy built in storage compartment in the pictures of the crew cab. Maybe there wasn't room with the shortened bed. That's a shame, it is a nice feature. Although I hate to burst Nissan's bubble, this is not an innovation. My 73 Ford F-250 Camper Special was one of many with a lock able built in tool box built into the side of the bed. It really comes in handy.
  • Ask Al Gore! :)
  • kcflyerkcflyer Posts: 78
    I guess I should have seen that coming. I'm sure he will be pleased that his name still appears somewhere. BTW. Nissan announced today a takeover of sorts of the nissan diesel corp. They plan to produce 2 ton trucks by 2006 for the Japan market to meet the new emission standards for diesels. Can't help speculating that they might also be looking for derivative engine technology for a diesel powered titan and or armada. Just in case the folks at Nissan are following this board, how about 4 wheel steering?
  • jq3jq3 Posts: 52
    Currently, I own a Tundra Limited 4x4 and WAS considering a new Titan. I went to the Nissan site and configured a Titan similar to my Tundra. The price topped out at almost $38K!!! The crew cab topped out at over $40K!!! For crying out loud my Tundra MSRP'ed at $33700 and it's loaded!

    The Titan is defintely a nice truck, but $5-$7K more than my Tundra... I don't think so! Yet it is bigger with a more powerful engine, but so is the F-150 and I can get a comparable F-150 for about what I paid for my Tundra, maybe a little cheaper.

    Sorry Nissan, but you're way too proud of your truck for me.
  • kcflyerkcflyer Posts: 78
    Is it fair to compare prices against the current (smaller) toyota. I have not seen pricing for the new double cab which is much bigger and would be a more equitable comparison. I hope the toyota is priced lower but I'm not holding my breath. I can't wait to test drive and compare the two new crew cabs back to back.
  • crosley4crosley4 Posts: 295
    the Titan does seem a bit high priced.

    The nissan web site likes to make it known that the prices, colors etc are not set in stone yet...I would think they have a good idea by now on how the truck will be priced and options availible.

    The crew cab LE I optioned up was over 35k for 4x2 truck on thier site.

    I am interested in looking at the Nissan and the new design Ford F-150 too.
  • gvoigtgvoigt Posts: 63
    I was considering coverting the lease on my '00 Sierra to a purchase, to take advantage of the low interest rates. I am a little over half way through my lease and I have the rig tricked out for my work needs and satisfied with the performance. I had planned on turning it back in and getting a 2500HD CC but given the changes and configuation limits I am going to have to take a serious peek at the Titan. I looked over the new F-150 on their website, but the only way to get a CC is to get a Supercrew...which is okay with one exception...the bed doesn't allow for the installation of the three tool boxes I have on my Sierra. I'd like to not have to replace them or rework my setup. I use my truck for a work vehicle, and it being a 1/2 ton SB Ext Cab 4x4 is perfect. I can haul 90% of what I need to in the bed, and tow what I can't. The ext cab allows me to transport others in relative comfort, not to mention the German Shepard! So a peek and a test drive is in order just to keep things in perspective.
  • gvoigtgvoigt Posts: 63
    Got a Titan pre product brochure in the mail today. To say the least it is big, as is the cover letter that accompanied it. Still no hard facts and specifics, but a nice brochure anyway.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    for those of you who dont know me, i sell nissans. they recently had sales training for sales managers. upon returning, all they really had to say was "we're in the truck business, gentlemen!" more HP and torque at lower RPM than a dodge hemi. more room and towing capacity than a toyota tundra. these are the 2 main targets of the titan. they dont care much about ford and GM trucks, as they hold so much of the market already. i do, however, have the advantage of having nissan AND ford in my dealership, so for the 2004 model year, ill have the best 2 trucks on the market to sell! woohoo!!!
  • crosley4crosley4 Posts: 295
    Since Nissan is not releasing the Titan till december 2003 they will be running catch up to the big 3 on the 04 trucks.

    I have read the Crew cab will not be avilible till early 2004.
  • joehoejoehoe Posts: 37
    Preliminary pricing for the Titan is a little steep in comparison...

    It sounds like a real nice design - but for $35K you can add alot of options to the Ram.

    Also Dodge has announced a refresh now for '05 - possibly to narrow the gap in torque or towing?
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    not for powertrain. for styling. people just dont like the wide, gaping pie hole of the thing. i think they are too close to the late 80's trucks in styling. thats what hurt them then. sales have plummeted since the new front end was introduced. the titan pricing is adequate. they dont offer a regular cab, and the base model still has more features than the base F150 XLT for the same price. (around $27k). dodge buyers are the least loyal owners in the truck market. as soon as they see a worthy alternative, they will jump ship. when the 94 ram came out, a bunch of ford and chevy buyers went to dodge. after 1 truck, most returned to ford or chevy. it was just a new alternative at the time. if dodge had made a quality product, they may have atayed. nissan DOES make quality products. ever heard the phrase "once you go ..., youll always be fightin"? (something like that...lol)
  • joehoejoehoe Posts: 37
    I have been loyal to Dodge since the late '70s but it has been become almost foolish to remain so these days - especially for such a large investment.

    Quality and Performance are the most important factors - this latest invasion into the full-size trucks looks like a good one.

    And I won't feel as guilty driving a Titan as I would even "visiting" a Ford or GM dealer.

    These won't hit the lots until December, is that correct?

    Or can you place an order prior to that?
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    you can place an order anytime you want. we just dont know what the pricing will be exactly. if you place an order, you will have to sign a waiver for pricing to accept whatever the sticker says.
  • joehoejoehoe Posts: 37
    Nobody actually pays sticker price anymore, do they?

    I'm willing to pay invoice price, +/- a few %

    Our local "price club" (Costco) has a special deal for car purchases - I'm not sure exactly what the details are...

    Anyone have any experience with these types of sales?
  • crosley4crosley4 Posts: 295
    there are still fools out there that pay sticker or more for something they "have to have" :)
  • I just priced out a 4x4 crew cab on both the new F-150, and the Titan. With the options I want, the Ford ends up at about $36,500 and the Titan at $35,500. Pretty steep for both, but I would say Nissan is staying competitive with their target competition. Those will be hands down the best 2 trucks on the market for at least 2 years, IMO. The problem is, I'm really not looking forward to waiting until NEXT YEAR for the Titan. Nissan may lose a sale if I can't keep my wallet in my pants...
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