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Mazda6 Maintenance and Repair

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  • jjg007uijjg007ui Posts: 1
    Ive got a 2004 Mazda6 s with 25K miles and I am having an issue with the car stalling immediately after start-up. This only happens when the car sits for a long period of time (i.e. overnight, at work) and once you restart after the engines stalls its fine. Has anyone experienced anything like this or have any ideas? Thanks in advance.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    the fellow experienced what its like to do business with a factory owned dealership.
  • Yes it's a pretty common problem actually, from what I understand. It's usually just a software issue, at least when it was happening with my car the software upgrade fixed it. Many folks have had the same exact problem. Take it to a dealership and they should know, since it is such a frequent problem. If they don't, then you need to find a new dealership ;)
  • billy05billy05 Posts: 1
    I have a Mazda 6 2004 and have the same thing happen when the car is cold
    after sitting overnight, I took it back to the dealer who said it is the computer pcl
    or plc who replaced it which he said they do at 20,000 klms service but it still is doing it when it is cold, so i will have to take it back, also if I drive at 40 klms a hr there is a wine in the gearbox.
  • reechzreechz Posts: 50
    I just got a new 2005 Mazda 6i (4 cylinder) with automatic transmission. I have driven it about 250 miles. When the car shifts from first to second gear it is very noticeable. I feel a slight surge. It doesn't happen going from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to 4th.
    Is this normal? It is not a major thing, but if I closed my eyes I would be able to tell when the car is shifting from 1st to second.
  • mazda6iguymazda6iguy Posts: 365
    I have a 03 Mazda 6i that originally came with the Michelin MXV4 Energy Tires ($$$ expensive OEM tires) When it comes time to replace them, would Goodyear Assurance Tripletread be a good choice? What would you replace yours with?
  • mazda6iguymazda6iguy Posts: 365
    Just wondering if I ever have to replace a headlight on my '03 Mazda 6i, would it have to be taken to a dealer? Has anyone out there replaced it themselves? thoughts...
  • Are you saying you like VW service? Did you own a VW that was reliable? I see so many people griping about their VW, I would be leery of buying one. Would like to hear from those having good experiences too.
    Loren


    I owned an '87 VW Golf for 15 years - very reliable vehicle. I donated it to a non-profit earlier this year with (230,000 miles on the odometer) when I bought my new Mazda. But I don't believe VW is building the same quality vehicles it did 20 years ago.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    It depends...

    If you're aggressive, then you'll want a performance tire, and the Assurances will definitely not fit the bill.

    If you're looking for more of a softer, touring tire, the Assurance should work.

    Check out tirerack.com for more suggestions. They've got a ton on their website, and they'll be able to help you choose the right tire as well.

    You can also ask Connor:

    Ask Connor at The Tire Rack
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    VW has went straight to the toilet in terms or reliability within the past 5-8 years. A friend of mine owns a florist shop, and bought 2 VW Golf TDIs in 2000. BOTH cars average a trip to the shop once a month for a variety of things. On one of them, the airbag light is on, the rear wiper doesn't work, and the hatch doesn't lock anymore, but he's had enough of dealing with the dealer to get the crap fixed!

    My Dad also had an '87 Golf, and it was semi-reliable, until it was totalled in '94. A lot has changed since then, and so did VW.

    They've also dragged Audi into the quality toilet as well...
  • mjvchicagomjvchicago Posts: 149
    I have a 2003 6s 5-speed and started hearing an intermittent clicking noise coming from the engine. After a mechanic looked at it they said that I was low on oil. They refilled my oil and everything was fine.

    Now, 6 months and 2 oil changes later, I heard the same clicking. I checked my oil level and sure enough I was low... oil levels were below minimum. I had to add 2 qts to get it just past minimum. Again, got my oil changed and everything is fine.

    Has anyone else experienced anything like this where your oil level gets to low levels 3000 - 5000 miles after an oil change? Now I don't have any leaks... external ones, anyway. Could oil be leaking somewhere I wouldn't see it?
    I drive daily in stop-go traffic on the way to/from work going about 70 miles 5 days a week and am a failry aggressive driver, is that contributing? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    A word of caution...

    The Duratec V6 is VERY sensitive to oil levels in the motor, and there have been a fair amount of cases where entire engines had to be replaced due to low oil levels. I can't remember the exact specifics, but it has to do with the bearings between the rod and the crank...

    I'd make it a habit to check the oil once per week. There is no oil level light on the motor, but there is a light for oil pressure. Chances are if that light goes on, your engine is toast.

    As for the oil leaking... I'd have a trusted mechanic look over the motor, including the seals, to try and determine what's going on. I've got an '04 6S and I drive 50-60 miles/day aggressively, without any significant oil loss. Chances are there's a leak...

    Hope this helps.
  • mazda6iguymazda6iguy Posts: 365
    This is a bit off topic, but I do own a Mazda 6, so please forgive me :-). Here in NE ohio, they are advertising on billboards Casino Windsor in Canada. Apparently they are giving away Smart brand cars. My question is this.... if someone from USA wins one of these cars, wouldn't that person have problems bringing the car in the USA? Wouldn't they need to be federalized?

    Also, If one would want to buy a Acura EL (not offered here) in Canada, what would be the potential pitfalls?
  • osadnickosadnick Posts: 3
    I just got my 2003 6i back from Walser Mazda in Burnsville, MN. I have 40,000 miles.
    1) the sqeek I heard from the front brakes was from a loose clip. the clip had worn a groove in the rotor. Dealer turned the rotors and replaced the brakes for free. YES!

    2) I complained that I heard weird wizzing noises from the front dash. The dealer found I had a bad bearing in the pretentioner. They replaced the pretentioner and the surpentine belt for free. YES!!

    3) I complained that I had no zoom zoom zoom and a lot of throttle lag. The dealer gave the throttle a Software update and it ZOOMS better than new. Huge impact.

    I celebrated by spending $200 on 35% window tint all around. Looks great!
  • I can only speak for My 99 Beetle but I drove it for 84,000 and it cost me 1 set of brakes,two sets of tires and oil...........it runs as good now as it did when I purchased it.I got the 6 wagon because I have two young boys and needed the room. My 6 has already been more trouble than the vw........maybe my luck will be better from here on out.

    On the service side vw was great........of course nothing major was ever wrong with the car so what can I say.
  • retropiaretropia Posts: 41
    It appears that there are fewer complaints about the 2005 M6, and I'm curious if this means that they are finally reliable? I know that jsnewjersey had a defective throttle body, and I believe there was a problem posted with a 4-cylinder model.

    I'm probably crazy for considering buying one, but I still really like the M6. There are attractive prices on 2005 models that have been sitting on dealer lots for awhile.

    Does anyone have an opinion?
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    When you say It appears that there are fewer complaints about the 2005 M6 are you aware of this statement in the April 2005 Consumer Reports auto issue: Reliability has dropped to below average, so we no longer recommend the Mazda6. According to your profile your other vehicles are a Toyota and a Honda which have excellent reliability; I would not recommend that you be seduced by "attractive prices" if you are concerned about reliability. Now, if you said you were after a more exciting car than a Toyota or a Honda ...
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Despite what CR says, I think Mazda builds a product that's just as good as any Toyota and Honda out there. ALL car makers have a few duds out there, it's simply unavoidable. That being said, my '04 6S has been PROBLEM FREE for over 13K miles, and 10 months of ownership, while a co-workers '04 Accord has been back to the dealer 4 different times.

    Point is, you're taking a risk no matter what kind of car you buy, whether it's a Toyota or Pontiac. If you want a fun-to-drive sedan that looks sexy to boot, get the 6! You won't regret it!
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    The April 2005 CR data was probably collected for 2004 models.
  • retropiaretropia Posts: 41
    My understanding is that the Consumer Reports data refers to earlier-than-2005 models. We won't see the CR reliability ratings for the 2005 M6 until next year. And, yes, I want a reliable car AND an exciting car AND I want it cheap! I want it all, LOL!
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,032
    We have had discussions concerning purchasing in Canada and then bringing the vehicle to the states. However, winning one may be a whole different animal. You might try looking thru the Smart Shopper topics and see if there is one that might fit your question.

    Community Manager If you have any questions or concerns about the Forums, send me an email, karen@edmunds.com, or click on my screen name to send a personal message.

  • I agree that you may knowing agree to give a bit of reliability for a car that does a liitle more than offer basic transportation. The Honda's do nothing for me same for the Toyota's. Every single car made has their share of lemons. What bothered me was Mazda's lack of customer service on a three day old car. It took almost two weeks to get my car back. That just would not happen with Honda, Toyota and definitely not VW.
    Again, I love the 6 wagon........The handling,styling and engine performance are right there with some of the higher priced Audi's and Volvos.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    J.D. Power 2005 Initial Quality Survey

    For the 2005 report, the J.D. Power team compiled responses from more than 62,000 buyers and lessees of new 2005 model year vehicles. The survey respondents were asked to rate their vehicles after the first three months of use.

    The exhaustive questionnaire touches on 135 different attributes, spread across nine categories. They include ride quality, handling, braking, engine and transmission performance, plus a vast array of typical problem areas on new vehicles.

    The annual Initial Quality Survey also establishes an overall score in Problems Per 100 Vehicles (or PP100, its well-established yardstick) for the various nameplates, and it hands out awards for overall plant quality worldwide.

    NAMEPLATE RANKINGS

    Lexus - 81 PP100
    Jaguar - 88 PP100
    BMW - 95 PP100
    Buick - 100 PP100
    Cadillac - 104 PP100
    Mercedes-Benz - 104 PP100
    Toyota - 105 PP100
    Audi - 106 PP100
    Infiniti - 109 PP100
    Hummer - 110 PP100
    Hyundai - 110 PP100
    Honda - 112 PP100
    GMC - 113 PP100
    Lincoln - 113 PP100
    Acura - 116 PP100
    Industry Average: 118 PP100
    Jeep - 120 PP100
    Mercury - 120 PP100
    Nissan - 120 PP100
    Chrysler - 121 PP100
    Chevrolet - 127 PP100
    Ford - 127 PP100
    Mitsubishi - 129 PP100
    Pontiac - 129 PP100
    Dodge - 130 PP100
    Mini - 130 PP100
    Scion - 134 PP100
    Saab - 136 PP100
    Saturn - 136 PP100
    Subaru - 138 PP100
    Kia - 140 PP100
    Volvo - 140 PP100
    Porsche - 147 PP100
    Volkswagen - 147 PP100
    Land Rover - 149 PP100
    Mazda - 149 PP100
    Suzuki - 151 PP100
    Source: J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Initial Quality Study
  • marklawmarklaw Posts: 1
    I took my daughter's 1999 Mazda 626 V6 car into mechanic for brakes and few other items. The ABS, TCS, TCS Off lights are on now. I have taken it back in several times and they don't know what to do. Can anyone help? Suggestions? I would greatly appreciate any advice.
    Thanks-Mark
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    I have the Consumer Reports magazine, and was scratching my head after reading that they do not recommend the Mazda6 due to a drop in quality. Those questioned in 2003 and 2004 must have been happy with the car according to the data as I see it. Now if they are using JD Powers or some other source which rates cars after only 3 months, I could see them making a statement like that, but their data shows no major change in problem areas. Actually it looks fine for the last two years data they have. So where or where did they get this NEWS of a change in quality control? Hummm, very strange. Looks like JD Powers now shows Mercedes as good in initial quality, where one can look back and take note of major quality problems acknowledged by the company itself. It was there goal, just months ago to have a major improvement in quality control. Boy, do they move fast! Looks to me like this data is all over the map. One thing I like in a car is simple --- keep it as simple as possible. All this fancy stuff, and new safety devices and such are possible problem areas in a car. Yes, I know, I am going to roll the car, or not stop in time, and not be able to apply enough pressure to brakes to do the stop correctly. Never hit anyone on the road, and never been in a wreck on the road, other than a person hitting the back bumper pretty hard, when I was stopped. Not permanent damage, and all the ABS and ESP in the world was not going to help in that case anyway. About the worse brakes I ever had were the Achieva car with ABS, and my best car was the Stealth with all disk brakes, with no ABS. Car could stop on a dime. All this power windows and door locks and such are just more problem areas. Keep it simple. - Loren
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    Obviously we want the ratings to confirm our choices and to clobber all the vile specimens that we detest. But that's what makes public ratings very interesting: One's personal experience or point of view may not be confirmed by a larger audience. For example, many of us have heard that GM builds bad cars and that the Japanese (read, Toyota) with their excellent reliability are poised to take over. Well, as you can see from the JD Power survey, GM has two vehicles (Buick and Cadillac) in the top ten in terms of initial quality ratings. What really floored me was how Mazda has plummeted in the 2005 survey. According to Consumer Reports quite a few models (Mazda6, Mazda RX8, Mazda MPV) are suffering from poor reliability; these reliability ratings are culled from surveys of thousands of subscribers to this magazine which is not beholden to any car company. JD Power and Consumer Reports are routinely mentioned in the industry as consumer benchmarks.

    Keeping it simple may not work in the auto industry. Most consumers seem to prefer a well-equipped car at a discount rate rather than a basic car at a decent price. Call it human nature, greed or a great deal but many of us want everything for nothing. In defence of the auto industry, many products with ever increasing amounts of incredible components are outstanding for the price; an Echo hatchback is an excellent vehicle in its category; I happen to prefer another category and so dream of the Mazdaspeed3. ;)
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    According to Consumer Reports quite a few models (Mazda6, Mazda RX8, Mazda MPV) are suffering from poor reliability;

    I thought I read somewhere that the poor ratings for the RX-8 were due to complaints of engine oil consumption. Kind of like how the Hummers were thrown to the bottom last year due to complaints of poor fuel mileage.

    Anyone else remember this?
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    I have their mag. and it does not indicate anything really bad about Mazda in the section where the people have given their reports to CR. So how do they surmise that something has changed at Mazda unless they use JD Powers reporting which is the first 3 months. I may avoid Mazda for now. I like all the stats on the Mazda3, but too many people say the air conditioning doesn't work and have brake problems and such. What is once again interesting to note, the problems do not show in CR for the Mazda3 back in 2004 -- very interesting. They love the Mazda3 at CR, but not the 6. Hummm, looks like more complaints here on the 3 than the 6 model -- once again interesting.
    Loren
  • fitguyfitguy Posts: 222
    I have owned a VW, a 2000 Passat, and it was the worst car I've ever owned. The service equally as bad- it was tied up for 6 days after a transmission module failure that stranded me and required the car to be towed to the dealer. And, they gave it back to me filthy after sitting under a tree collecting pollen and bird poop. I finally dumped it at 56K after numerous problems, including the oil sludge issue.
    My M6 just passed 10K miles without a single problem, so I guess I got one that bucks the CR ratings (so far). The car isn't perfect; none are- I still am lukewarm about the shift performance of the auto 5 spd and don't like the greasy brake dust, although the brakes stop fine. But overall, a very good car for the money and still a hoot to drive! :)
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    I like all the stats on the Mazda3, but too many people say the air conditioning doesn't work and have brake problems ... the problems do not show in CR ... They love the Mazda3 at CR, but not the 6 ... more complaints here on the 3 than the 6

    Good points. Often a few posters on a website can create a false or incomplete impression of a vehicle. This impression then influences others who may not consult other sources. Let's aim for a balanced discussion and not only the gripes of an individual. This is not to advocate censorship but to argue for balance. That's why we need Consumer Reports, JD Powers and other tools.
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