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2013 and Earlier - Mazda6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • I am in Houston Texas. I have the grey interior, with Glacier silver exterior. I havent' noticed any issues with my interior yet. I stayed away from the tan specifically. however, I was only looking at the silver one, and I haven't ever seen one with tan interior, so I dind't have to worry.

    The sticker price on the car was just over $23,000.

    Sad thing is I have only had the car for about a month and I already wish I would have gotten the one with more options on it. It would have been about $2,000 more, but I already put about $700 into a new stereo (which sounds much better than the Bose anyway) - but the BOSE would have been good enough for me.

    Part of the way I was able to get a bit better deal was because that included a $500 college grad discount.
  • rampedramped Posts: 358
    Wow.

    I had to go out in the garage and make sure the car I bought a few months ago was the Mazda 6s.

    Yep, it is, but it doesn't in any way resemble your description.

    Mine has about 4,500 miles on it and has been flawless. The ride is unbelievably compliant and at the same time the handling is comparable to any front-drive sedan, and maybe not so far away from a couple of rear drives as well.

    Taking issue with the interior quality is fair, but overall, to me, this car is the best midsize value on the market if you want a car that looks good and is fun to drive. I believe over time, as more people come to appreciate this car's assets, that its resale will improve a bit. Of course, the MZ6 will never equal the resale of an Accord or Camry, though.

    On the bright side, if you managed to make money trading in an Impala, you should make a killing with a MZ6 :)
  • I live in New York City and am about to purchase my first brand new car by the summer. After alot of looking and comparing, my heart is set on the 2005 Mazda 6i 4cyl Automatic. At first i opted for the Mazda 3s, but while getting a feel for it in the showroom, i had to put the drivers seat back way to far to be comfortable being that I am 6'-1" tall.
    These are my suggested options for the 6i.

    * Bose Audio @ Moonroof Package
    * Convenience Package
    * Automatic Transmission
    * Door Edge Guards
    * Fog Lights
    * Rear Mud Guards
    I've chosen Silver Metallic as the color.

    I used the Mazda website to build the car and their MSRP is $23,580.
    Kelley Blue Book invoice price is $21,017.
    Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,753.
    So, I figure if I purchase i will be spending between 21G-22G, is that a good deal?

    But upon further review The 2005 Honda Accord EX 4cyl automatic/no leather. Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,758, only a five dollar difference.

    Which is the better buy, truthful opinions please.
    The Accord is a nice car, but very popular in NYC, i dont see too many Mazda 6 on the road. Like I said earlier my heart is really set on the Mazda, but who knows the newly designed 2006 Jetta due to come out next month may add to my choices. Help please!
  • you are looking at all the cars I looked at and here is what I found....I started toward the Honda Accord and I was head on with it and decided the reliability isn't worth how UGLY the car is from the front end.

    I had a Jetta and loved how it drove and felt, but the rough ride compared to the MZ6, and the issues with the long term performance caused me to trade it in before I had any problems - plus I love the MZ6.

    I haven't heard too many good things about the looks of the 2006 Jetta, so I don't know about that one...but it is mostly a preference thing.

    As far as the MZ6 is concerned, since you want an AUTO, I would say definitely go for the 2005. Apparently the 6 speed makes all the difference.

    If you were in for a stick, I wold say try to get your hands on an 04 manual - they are dirt cheap right now, and you could likely get one with the v6 for about the same price - if not less.

    I testdrove both, and I couldn't handle the lack of power from the 4 cylendar. So, if you are set on the 4 cyl. don't drive the v6 - you will like it too much :).

    What I can say about the Jetta, the interior materials are nicer than the MZ6, and the paint job is one of the best I have seen from a durability standpoint.

    I say, stick with the 6 and have fun with it - with all the packages you are getting it will be nice.
  • You say you paid $21.5K but don't mention your msrp. You also don't give your mileage. With the current new car market and in this price range, $16K trade-in is not that bad for a year old car. You do realize the dealer wants to make some profit reselling your trade I hope. If you didn't understand how rebates effect resale value you should have done more research. Maybe you're mad at yourself for paying too much for the Mazda. I also smell B.S. on your other trade unless you had an Impala SS. I've never seen a Chevy gain value unless it's a classic Vette or muscle car.

    I am very happy with mine so far. No expenses other than routine maintenance. The fake metal parts scratch easily but other than that I think the interior is very good and my radio works just fine. Maybe interference in the area where you drive?

    99.9% of the time a car is a depreciating asset. To think you will make money or break even on one is just plain foolishness.
  • slickdogslickdog Posts: 225
    Personally, I think that the Mazda6 is a lot of car for low 20's and many people are getting them for less than 20K. When I shopped V6 sedans recently the Mazda6 seemed to have more for the money than Accord, Altima, or Legacy which I also considered. On the Internet the prices looked close, but the dealer quotes were a whole different story. Since the Accord is very popular in your area you may be able to get a much better deal on the less popular Mazda.

    Did you drive both? I didn't drive the I4 models, but when comparing the V6 equipped models, I found the Accord provides a rather bland driving experience compared to the Mazda6.

    I also think that the Mazda6 is much more attractive than the Accord. In my opinion the last generation Accord looked ok, but this new one just strikes me as odd looking.

    If reliability and resale value are high priority for you, the Accord may have the edge but otherwise I just don't see a huge reason to choose it over the Mazda6 unless you are loyal to Honda or want to drive something lots of other people have.

    Good luck.
  • rampedramped Posts: 358
    If I was buying a 4-cylinder, I'd go for the Accord every time. Its 4-banger blows away the Mazda's in every area: HP, torque, smoothness and fuel efficiency.

    Also, the Accord's resale is much better than the Mazda. It doesn't look as good or handle as well, but the Accord is the better 4-cylinder, especially for the same money.

    Now, the 6-cylinder comparison is a different story all together. The Honda 6 is still better than Mazda's, but the Mazda 6-cylinder is pretty good.

    If you're in no rush, wait on the '06 Jetta. It looks sweet, but it's going to be pricey. You can probably get a pretty well-equipped 6s for what the new Jetta will cost you.
  • bill1975bill1975 Posts: 19
    After reading the last few posts I'm wondering about the prices I'm seeing here (Dallas/Ft Worth) for the 6 and 3. All the used ones are the "i". Most seem fairly basic - not a lot of fancy add ons, a couple have power seats or the extra body molding around the bottom. The asking prices seem to be between 15,000 - 18,000 with a few around 14,000. Funny thing is, they're asking well below the blue book value, so I'm wondering how much negotiating room I might have should I decide to buy one (there doesnt seem to be a lot of price diff between the two). I figure if the asking price is, on average, 16 or 17k, perhaps I could get down between 14 and 15? I dont know. Keep in mind this is the first time I will be buying a car through a dealer. So I'm still doing a LOT of research and trying to do my homework carefully....

    Bill
  • rhvrhv Posts: 9
    I'm wondering what price would be fair to offer on a 2004 S Wagon with only the sport package. It was a "demo" vehicle, so one of the employees has put just under 6000 mi on it. It's a manual transmission.

    After reading some of the posts here, is $16k out of the question (too low)? 17k?
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    "Which is the better buy, truthful opinions please.
    The Accord is a nice car, but very popular in NYC, i dont see too many Mazda 6 on the road. Like I said earlier my heart is really set on the Mazda, but who knows the newly designed 2006 Jetta due to come out next month may add to my choices. Help please!"

    About the 06 Jetta uh a Jetta in its first year? I don't trust a Jetta in its first year of bodystyle. The current generation of Jetta has had alot of problems. If I was you maybe wait and buy an 07 Jetta so all the kinks will be worked out. Maybe I would trust a Passat in its a first year but a Jetta? No.

    Personally I am a both a Honda and Mazda fan but this is the first Accord ever I dislike the exterior styling totally. The coupe is ok looking though.

    Oh yeah as far as a depreciation hit is concerned if you keep it for 5 years I don;t think depreciation will be a factor(maybe a little though.) If you buy a car outright and keep it keep it for 3 years depreciation will definately be a factor. Thats why some people don't not buy Mazda's and buy Honda and Toyota because they hold their value a little better. After 5 years you can wash your hands with resale value of any car I think though.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    "I like mine but the poor quality of the interior really has me thinking that I will trade after a year or two. Pretty bad considering I drove my last car (Civic) for eight years. I will probably avoid Mazda the next time around, as IMO the quality has dramatically decreased from my 2001MPVLX to my 20046S."

    What poor build quality of the interior? You sat in it before you bought it right? I don't understand. It looks like you have buyers remorse maybe.

    What do you mean the quality has decreased from the 01 MPV to the 04 6? Have you had any problems with the 6? Is that what you are saying?

    I'm getting tired of people saying oh Mazda;s quality has decreased. I sat in the current Toyota Camry and I didn't think the interior was better than the 6(not even close.)
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    This discussion is ONLY about Prices Paid & Buying Experiences of the Mazda6. If you want to have a comparison discussion, please do so in the Mazda6, Honda Accord or look for an existing comparison discussion of these two vehicles.

    Any further postings off the subject of pricing and buying the Mazda6 will be deleted.
  • ltrainltrain Posts: 8
    i live in northern nj and am shopping for an 05 mazda6 wagon w\gt package and rear spoiler. a dealer in the area offered $25,800 which i priced on the site to be $300 over invoice. not including any incentives. i think it's a fair deal but was looking for input as to pricing it w\other dealers in the area to see if i could get a lower $.
    any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
  • escortownerescortowner Posts: 129
    Bill,

    I test drove both the 6s and 6i, and I must say that the 6s is much more impressive. As far as the KBB is concerned - I noticed that as well.

    Basically, if you have to pay anything over $15K for a used 6i, it may be worth it to get a new 2004 6s for about 3-4k more. One thing you can look at is a lower interest rate on a new car versus a used one. Granted, probably only 1% lower, but it will help offset some of the cost.

    We all have different financial contraints, but a mazda6 is a nice car none the less. One thing you do get with the 6s is slightly sexier interior climate controls on the console.
  • escortownerescortowner Posts: 129
    I recieved a 6s OTD for 18K new (9 miles on it). It was a manual with the sports package, but it was the sedan. I know the rebates are higher on the wagon, but so is the price. Therefore, they are about the same price. So basically, one must question, how much is the 6,000 miles worth. If I look at my 18k - I think 16k is reasonable to ask for a car with 6,000 miles on it. However, a dealer may not. It all depends on how likely he thinks someone else is to buy it at this point.

    It is march now, and I just read an article on Bankrate that said car manufacturers have between 60-97 days of inventory on the lots right now where they like to keep them between 30-60 days of inventory.
  • jlam2jlam2 Posts: 21
    Just got a Mazda 6s 5 door hatchback here in Ohio. They are priced $6000 off and there are still a few left in various dealership. I was quite surprise the one I got only had 37 miles in it.

    My 6s has everything you wanted except for the 6 speed transmission. But you will be getting a V6 instead of a 4 cylinder. The MSRP for a 04 V6 on what you discribed is $26000. Minus 6000 and or what your negotiating skills might be, you can have a Mazda 6s for around $19000-20000.

    It gets better if you want a '04 Mazda 6s wagon. If you go to Ricart.com, look for the special coupons. They are offering a '04 Mazda wagons for $7000 off. So technically you can get a V6 Mazda for around $15000.
  • rhvrhv Posts: 9
    Forgive my ignorance, but does OTD (out-the-door) include taxes?

    rhv
  • escortownerescortowner Posts: 129
    yes - including taxes and fees. I say 18k OTD, but it may be $100 one way or the other. I had a trade in so my sales tax was lower, but I tried to account for that in the 18kOTD.
  • Carguy,

    Chill out man! I never said build quality, it is the material quality! As a 2001 MPV owner for the past four years and a 2004 6 owner for last few months, I think I have some experience and knowledge about the quality of Mazda. I purchased my 6S in December for $17,400 + tax & title. I think my metallic red is a hot looking car and I enjoy it. However, I can tell you that the quality and gap tolerances of my 01 Sand Mica w/Beige interior MPV is far better than the Tan Interior of my 2004 6S.

    I also have been shopping for a new van and I am unimpressed with the interior on the 05MPV. The interiors of all of these Mazdas are well designed, ergonomically solid, but IMO the cloth seats and floor carpeting are on the low end.

    I am partial to tan/beige interiors, I've heard a lot of the issues are with this color and that the gray and black cloth holds up much better. Yes, I did sit in this car before I drove it, but now I've carried some passengers and the material just is not holding up.

    The exterior quality and performance are great. I'd highly rate this car, but I'd like to see Mazda make this car rate a 10 rather than a 9. They are one step away, improve the interior quality!

    And relax dude, don't stroke out on me over a posting to a bulletin board.
  • reuel3reuel3 Posts: 114
    Again, let's keep this centered on prices paid and buying experience. If you would like to discuss the pros and cons of a particular brand or model, there are other forums where you can continue your conversation.

    Thanks.
  • Carguy, if you need to respond I'll watch Mazda6 Problems and Solutions board!

    Sorry Host, had to clarify my position to carguy. Is problems and solutions the right place for this discussion.
  • reuel3reuel3 Posts: 114
    Yes, if you are going to discuss issues with the vehicle such as the interior not being durable or other quality problems, that would be an appropriate forum.

    Thanks for the cooperation!
  • bill1975bill1975 Posts: 19
    "Basically, if you have to pay anything over $15K for a used 6i, it may be worth it to get a new 2004 6s for about 3-4k more"

    Yeah, I'd like to keep it around 14 or 15 tops. Definately not over 16. I've seen them listed anywhere from 14 up to about 20k. really, if they're asking 16 or 17, I would hope I could talk them down a bit, say 1-2,000. I quickly did an estimate of a new one and the MSRP came to 21k with the invoice at around 19. So really, if I play my cards right I would hope I don't have to go over $15. A trade in would help, but I'm not expecting more than 500-700 for my 89 camry with 181k and a couple of dings in it. It seems like the ones around 14-15K have between 20k-25k miles, while the $16k and up range stay under 15,000 miles. Anyway, guess I'm just curious how much I can expect to try and talk them down, if thats even possible to estimate.

    BK
  • bstokbstok Posts: 4
    Hello-

    I am in a process of buing a new 2004 Mazda6s , but can’t really find a detailed info on the invoice price anymore for that year. The vehicle’s MSRP is $24615, which includes 5-Spd Auto, sport package with spoiler, ULEV emission equipment, and in dash 6-disc CD changer, but unfortunately none of the web sites offer invoice price for new 2004 models anymore. The invoice I found on one web site was $22533. Does it sound about right?

    The dealer’s offer is $21,934 + 6% NJ tax which is $23,250 and then he subtracts the rebate of $4,000(do I have to pay taxes on a cash rebate to customer, supposedly in some states that’s not a requirement, I’m in NJ). The total then is $19,250 + the fees( according to the dealer $447.5 for title, registration, doc. fees, however Motor vehicle charges only $240). So the final price is $19,697. Excluding tax and the fees the price would be $18,160 which is $6,455 off of MSRP. I guess considering that it is already a March, I should be aiming to be at least $7,000 below the MSRP. What is everybody thinking? Please advise.

    Thanks a lot.
  • jlam2jlam2 Posts: 21
    Sounds about what I got for my 2004 6s here in Ohio. Dealer gave $6500 off MSRP and the deal was made after he give $1000 over market value for my tade in. Try to negotiate for a better price for your trade in. Sometimes the first offer they gave is too low.
  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    I'm about ready to purchase an '05 MZ6 Wagon and want ALL the possible incentives available. What is the $500 marketing support on the MZ6? One dealer rep said that wouldn't give it to me on the S-plan and another (small, independant dealer) one had not even heard of it. So, I'm confused... should I get some of it or is it strictly for the dealers pockets?

    Got another question. I just got a MZ3 loyalty e-mail yesterday. It states in part that a $500 certificate will be mailed by snail mail to use toward a MZ3 OR ANY other Mazda for current owners/leasees. Anybody seen it? or use it?

    Thanks, people!
  • pandboypandboy Posts: 28
    I have seen a local dealer is selling a car: Gold, Air Conditioning, Automatic Transmission, Alloy Wheels, V6 Engine, Leather Seating Surfaces, Sun Roof, Power Seat, Power Windows, Cruise Control, Compact Disc Player, the price is 15999.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    "Chill out man! I never said build quality, it is the material quality! As a 2001 MPV owner for the past four years and a 2004 6 owner for last few months, I think I have some experience and knowledge about the quality of Mazda. I purchased my 6S in December for $17,400 + tax & title. I think my metallic red is a hot looking car and I enjoy it. However, I can tell you that the quality and gap tolerances of my 01 Sand Mica w/Beige interior MPV is far better than the Tan Interior of my 2004 6S."

    "I also have been shopping for a new van and I am unimpressed with the interior on the 05MPV. The interiors of all of these Mazdas are well designed, ergonomically solid, but IMO the cloth seats and floor carpeting are on the low end."

    "I am partial to tan/beige interiors, I've heard a lot of the issues are with this color and that the gray and black cloth holds up much better. Yes, I did sit in this car before I drove it, but now I've carried some passengers and the material just is not holding up."

    "The exterior quality and performance are great. I'd highly rate this car, but I'd like to see Mazda make this car rate a 10 rather than a 9. They are one step away, improve the interior quality!"

    "And relax dude, don't stroke out on me over a posting to a bulletin board."

    I understand your posting. I have more to say but can't say it here on this board because its only the price paid board. I'll talk to you on the "Mazda 6 Sedan" board if you want.
  • reuel3reuel3 Posts: 114
    We appreciate the cooperation in keeping off-topic discussions out of this forum. Let's keep this focused on prices paid and buying experience.
  • rhvrhv Posts: 9
    I'd like to solicit people's opinions. I have been looking for inventory starting with new '04s and then broadening to '05s (prefer wagon or 5-door). Unfortunately, there's practically nothing out there without a moonroof. I'm 6'6" and the only way I fit headroom-wise is if there's no moonroof. So it looks like I'll have to order one.

    It also will take a couple of months to build the car. My question is this: How do I time the order to maximize the potential rebates? I imagine at some point this year they will cease to allow '05s to be ordered and will switch to '06s. If I put an order in around August, it might show up in October, when (hopefully) the fall rebates are higher? What does everyone think? What were rebates like last summer and fall? What time of year offers the highest rebates? When do they usually switch over to the new model year vehicles?

    Thanks!
    rhv
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