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Mazda3 Hatchback

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  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Your 92 was a quite a bit lighter and had less power. As consumers we demanded safer and more powerful vehicles...not accepting the fact that we can't have our cake and eat it, too.
  • You're right maltb. I hadn't thought of that. My lighter car seemed just as fast, but speed doesn't equal power. I think that I'll be looking for a less powerful car next time. Thanks.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    More power with more weight = same speed.

    I honestly don't think consumers demand more power it is just kind of forced on us. Cars are advertised by their power (ie: the 250 hp RX-8, instead of just the RX-8) The power actually gets top billing. This leads consumers to the mistaken conclusion that more power makes a car faster. The consumer then asks for the power. Of course we all know that a 250 hp Suburban is slower than a 150 hp Mazda3, and much slower than a 250 hp RX-8 (or whatever other example is relevant).
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I understand the power to weight relationship, but cars have gotten faster.

    Forced on us huh? Would you buy a 110hp Mazda3? If Mazda sold such a thing in the US it would make headlines as the slowest vehicle ever sold. Even Consumer Reports would say it's too slow in the guise of poor passing performance. Yes, consumers have demanded it, directly or indirectly.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    I would love a 110 hp Mazda3 - I would buy one tomorrow if they had it in the hatchback. With a stick shift it would probably be about as fast as the current 2.0 automatic, and would get near hybrid mpg. The 1.5 liter Protege only had 92 hp.

    I used to have a 76 hp VW Scirocco. It was plenty fast - how much over 100 mph do you really need to go? :confuse:

    52 hp in a VW bus is slow (the only vehicle CR rated not acceptable because of speed). 110hp in a small economy car is not even close to slow. Mazda RX-7 had 105 hp when it came out. The original VW GTI had about the same. Those were two of the most fun to drive cars ever made.

    I know cars weigh more now so sure a litte more hp is fine, but when people start saying you need to have 200 hp to get out of your own way that is just misinformed. Too many people just focus on the hp number which does not mean much by itself. Kinda like saying an offensive lineman is faster than a wide reciever because he has stronger legs (superbowl is coming up - forgive me).

    Ironically as much as people are overconcerned about power they seem to forget that adding an automatic saps so much of that power. Consumer Reports got the 2.0 Mazda3 at 8.6 seconds to 60 mph nearly 2 seconds faster than the automatic. How come nobody says why buy an automatic because it would be the "slowest vehicle ever sold"? ;)

    I guess as long as we can buy oil oversees we can keep turning up the power. :(

    off soapbox
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I'm not admonishing your viewpoint; it's very european. I'm just saying that the North American consumer has asked for and gotten much of what they wanted.
  • know cars weigh more now so sure a litte more hp is fine, but when people start saying you need to have 200 hp to get out of your own way that is just misinformed. Too many people just focus on the hp number which does not mean much by itself. Kinda like saying an offensive lineman is faster than a wide reciever because he has stronger legs (superbowl is coming up - forgive me).

    Power and low weight = the good fun. The Mazda3 with the 2.3 is fun but it's not a grin-inducing blast. Add the turbo and it gets more entertaining but then you have the inherent limits of FWD. 200+ with a sub 3000 lbs car is fun. 300 with a sub 3000 lbs car and RWD = heaven.

    How come nobody says why buy an automatic because it would be the "slowest vehicle ever sold"?

    Autos mated to 4s tend to sap power much more so than current 6 speed autos in 6 and 8 cylinder cars. That said, I'll take a manual anyday over a slushie.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,407
    Can anybody that has a 3 with traction control tell me if it can be turned off?

    Thanks.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Yes you can...hold down the button next to the headlight adjustment numbers. i dont recall what the letters are on the exact button
  • Yes, it can be turned off. The button is says "DSC Off," next to the illumination control and "DSC OFF" will illuminate in your IP.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    THATS the button i was trying to think of. Thank you.
  • Hi all,

    I am planning a car pretty soon and I do not have much time to go to dearlers and try cars. I like the Mazda 3 hatchback line a lot. Do you guys think that it would be roomy enough for a 6 feet person like me?

    Thanks in advance,

    Fran
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    I have an 07 M3 sedan, im 6ft 5in and i have no problems.
  • The best way to find out would be to sit in one.

    I'm 6'0" and I fit fine, though I adjust the seat height all of the way down. I also have the moonroof which takes away about an inch of head room. When I first got the car the seat was adjusted up some and I was really close to the roof. I also started getting pains in my legs and back. Finally, I realized that I could adjust the seat height and lumbar, and now it is the most comfortable car I have eve had.

    One heads up though, if you plan on anyone to be able to sit behind you, forget about it. At my comfortable adjustment, the seat is nearly the whole way back, and there is maybe 4 inches between the back of my seat and the end of the rear seat. If you drive alone or with one other person you would be fine, even 2 passengers would be fine if they sat behind the passenger seat.

    My hope for the next ('09) Mz3 is to have the rear seats able to be adjusted back like in the '06 CR-V and Chevy Equinox. The rear seats could go back at least 4 inches or so in the Mz3, with less cargo space, or adjust them forward when you need the space...
  • jc22jc22 Posts: 17
    Thanks for Andreas of Mazda3Forums I was able to unlock my trip computer on my 07 Mazda 3. It works for 06 too! Sorry, but this hack does not work for earlier models.

    1. Press and hold down CD and AM/FM buttons
    2. Start your car while still pressing down on those buttons
    3. The display will read, "DIS ON" which means Driver Information System On.
    4. Release the CD and AM/FM buttons
    5. Turn off and restart the car
    6. Now press the Set button and cycle through your avg. mpg, miles until empty, current mpg, and avg mph!

    Now you can truly know your Real MPG numbers! Which is a mixed blessing!

    Please pass this info to others!

    JC
  • FYI:
    this only works on 2006+ models, all trim levels
  • rgerstlrgerstl Posts: 1
    mazda 3 automatic wagon, sport with 16 inch or touring with 17 inch wheel. i know the standard difference but am concerned with low profile of touring ? any feedback on this model
  • allfiredupallfiredup Posts: 736
    I'm 6'2" and have found that many cars, especially ones with a sunroof, were uncomfortable for me. Nothing is worse than your head hitting the roof or having to lean down a bit to see traffic signals above you.

    All the Honda vehicles I have owned were well suited to my height, although my last Accord (EX, so it had the sunroof) was a little tight on headroom unless I left the sunshade open. I prefer to sit with my back more upright than most drivers I know and that doesn't help matters.

    Anyway, my '06 Mazda3 5-door has plenty of headroom although I specifically chose one WITHOUT the sunroof. I am unsure how much headroom you lose with that option.

    I'd suggest at least sitting in one with a sunroof if you are interested in that feature. If you aren't, the car is a great size for us taller guys.

    Another great feature for the taller guys is the adjustable steering column that both tilts and telescopes. It allows you to position it perfectly in relation to the seatback angle and to accomodate your arm length. I love the feature.

    Also, the seat has a height adjustment but I just leave it at its lowest setting.

    Good luck.
  • chiefjojochiefjojo Posts: 39
    Anyone have any experience with the new system (skid/traction control) on 2007 models? I'm thinking about buying a 3, but if I want DSC/TSC, then it's going to have to be a 2007 model.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    I live in minnesota and have used DSC/TSC quite a bit since oct. It has gotten me thru everything so far, but i also dont go out in the foot or more snowfall!
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