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Anyway, ended up finding an 03 limited for about the same price as the takes-longer-than-a-baby special order, so jumped at the chance. Got the airbags plus X-REAS and a pile of other goodies and am pretty happy.
Anyway, thanks for the help - that was very nice of you.
'04 Sport V6 4WD
EJ NJ RF RL CF
(don't necessarily want them all, but oh well)
invoice: 29248
offered: 29748
invoice + 5 seems like a decent deal to me. what do you guys think?
Edmunds says only $750 mfg to dealer support avail. East coast (NY) Edmunds says only $400 mfg-dealer support avail. "Who's on first?"
Given that, what would be a reasonable price to offer for a leftover '03 LTD with MSRP of 38K in NY metro area?
tia,
metmdx
'04 V6 Sport 4WD
EJ NJ RF RL CF
Invoice: 29248
Paid: 29748
Total out-the-door: 32492
Happy with the first 30 miles.
Options:
V8
Sunroof
Spoiler
Daytime running lights
Mats
Invoice: $30,552
Was going to buy one in October and waited to get one fresh off the factory floor and paid another $500. The invoice went up $500 in Nov. Got the deal because I sold for them a few years ago. The increase is a fact, as every other Sport that came in reflected the same price. Not sure if edmunds has updated there prices on the website to reflect increase.
EJ
SR
NH
GY
RF
RL
Z1
WL
and remote (?)
$37,375 out the door price.
Seems like good Dealer math for Northern Virginia. I signed the $500 deposit paperwork for Allocation method on 29 Nov. Arriving in NY port on 3 Dec, with estimated arrival at dealership on 13 Dec.
Didn't find this forum until afterwards doh. so now I'm wondering if I should have pushed for the identical V8 already on the dealer lot. V6 price? ;-)
Initial V-8 quote was $38,867 out the door. Then $249 Dealer Processing fee was dropped. End of the month, no customers on the lot, really windy and cold, maybe I should of had a V-8..
Wondering if I should push the button and ask for Michelin treads. Never had Bridgestones. Any thoughts? Thanks!
2004 4Runner Limited V6 4WD in Stratosphere Mica
Quoted invoice w/ Options (Post #371) = $35,667
Va Tax 3.17%
Tags = $48.50
TOYOTA Dest Fee = $540 (no joy dropping this)
$233 for wheel locks and "remote control for the stereo" seemed excessive, even with the Yen to Dollar conversion, so $249 Dealer Proc was dropped. Not sure if this includes the $64 wireless headphones, so quote w/o options might be $500 over base invoice.
I would recommend Ourisman Toyota for DC/VA/MD buyers, especially if you're looking for out the door quotes. Koons Toyota wouldn't back-up their guarantee of "$1k better" than the next best competitor. And the others wouldn't talk Allocation method when I mentioned no trade-in and pre-arranged financing.
I have had my new Runner just over 32 hours and am very pleased after driving my first 200 miles. And so far no sulfur smell, maybe this problem has been fixed. Have had no time to read or post on this forum, too much fun driving this outstanding truck.
The manual for the navigation is 118 pages. The Quick Reference Guide gets you started with the basics, so far really an easy system to use.
What did I pay? The MSRP is $43,700.00
I payed $39,571.00
Natural White with Oak Interior
options:
SR Moon Roof
GY Curtain Air Bags
RF Rear Spoiler
RL Daytime Driving Lights
CF Floor mats
NF Rear Air Suspension with X-REAS
NV Navigation
WL Wheel Locks
WH Wireless Head phones
Invoice 38,565.00
TDA 506.00
Dealer mark-up 500.00
Total $39,571.00
Documentation fee $149.00
tag transfer $67.50
6% sales tax
I was working with two dealers. One had quoted me $569.00 less then I ended up paying but they were going to trade with another dealer and have it driven up to 200 miles to their location. And after three weeks of waiting I really did not believe they were going to find one any time soon. They were really pushing to sell their left over 03 stock. And having this new truck driven from another dealer's location was not acceptable, I wanted low, under 10 miles. The one I purchased had 6 miles on it when I drove off. Now I can take my time a break it in correctly.
No comparison between this 2004 Limited and my 2002 Sport Edition. This is in a class with the best luxury SUV's. Nothing wrong with the 2002 4Runner's, that 3rd generation is better more refined and a more reliable vehicle than what is being offered by the competition. The 4th generation just raised the bar a few notches.
Test drives are o.k. it is the usual process to decide what you want. If you are not sure about this SUV but are really interested, ask the dealer to loan you a demo for a day. Now you can really drive it and decide if it may be right for you. What I am saying is the more you drive this, the more you really begin to realize how solid a truck this is. It is not a car or a cross over mini van with SUV styling, it is a tough rugged truck with a very good ride.
Now to get another 800 miles (1000 mile break-in) on it so I can begin driving it. Will purchase the Borla exhaust end of the month. Add the WAAG rear bumper protector and possibly their new low profile Front Runner and nothing else will be needed, this truck has it all.
I have been soliciting quotes from several of the dealers here in MPLS, MN---although I have been dealing on-line so-far & don't have the entire cost "structure". Compared to pricing other people seem to be getting I think the quotes so far look pretty good. Please let me know what you think.
2004 V8-Limited, Gold W:
NV-GPS Navigation
SR-Sun Roof
GY-Side/Curtain airbags
RF-Rear Spoiler
RL-Daytime Running Lights
Carpet floor matt set
Dealer #1-$38200--not sure if destination included
Dealer #2-$38068--Dest included
Dealer #3-$37973--Dest included
Tax & license are extra.
Can someone please tell me where I can find the WAAG Bumper protecter front & rear?
Pricewise, I don't see a $5-6k that you mentioned btw the GC and the 4Runner. A similarly equipped GC Overland shouldn't have that much of a price discrepancy.
It could be a line, but I can't see not making X-REAS available. I could understand not including heated seats in a place like Miami,for example. In either case, the price you were quoted isn't bad.
Contact them by e-mail after you log on and they will send you a list of nearest dealers.
Your prices are good. Did you calculate invoice without the TDA or whatever charge you have in your region to be $37842.00?
Add about $550.00 for this TDA or advertising charge and you are at $38392.00. Dealer #3's price is not bad!
If you want or need the X-REAS or air suspension you should find out why it is not available in your region. I have this combined package on mine ($1120.00 invoice cost) and am glad I have it. Do you tow anything or plan on occasion on loading up the truck with heavy items. This air suspension system is great for this.
With all this technical stuff I decided to get the Toyota Platinum 7 year - 100,000 mile ZERO deductible warranty. Only consider this if you plan on keeping the truck past 3 years or 36,000 miles. You do not have to purchase the warranty at time of purchase, have anytime before the 3 year - 36,000 mile factory warranty is up. There are a couple of advantages to buying up front (or maybe not?). If cliffy1 reads this he can answer better. But the Toyota PLATINUM warranty is solid, takes care of practically everything.
JGC vs. 4Runner price: If there is a $5 - 6$K difference it is because of discounts on the JGC. I would not consider any other vehicle then the 4Runner for many reasons, then main one is because it does not break.
Good luck with you selection.
DJ JBL Stereo w/ 10 speakers = $356*
EJ JBL w/ 6-CD = $544*
GY Side/Curtain airbags = $559
NF Rear air suspension w/ X-REAS = $1120*
NH X-REAS shocks = $360
NV JBL w/ GPS Navigation = $2207
RF Rear Spoiler = $160
RL Daytime Running Lights = $32
SR Power Moonroof = $720*
TH Third row seat = $956
WH Wireless Headphones = $64
WL Alloy Wheel Locks = $37
Z1 Preferred Accessory pkg = $165**
Bumpers, Sport Trim = $420
Cargo Logic Tote = $30
CD Changer = $409
Hood Protector = $79
Xtreme Cargo Mat = $69
* Not available with Third row seat
** Includes:
Carpeted floor mats = $112
Cargo net = $34
First aid kit = $21
Looks like $1115 difference between V-6 and V-8..
As for the pricing the dealers did not specify anything regarding TDA only the bottom line price w/o tax, license, & registration.
Thanks for the tip on the platinum warranty & WAAG--I am planning to keep this vehicle longer than 3yrs--so I will maybe consider this.
The JGC price is due to discounts--I don't like the suede seats in the Overland...yuk. At any rate I've always wanted a 4-Runner but price has detoured me--I'm ready to "plunge" now but will wait for the best pricing.
The dealer can:
> Trade with another dealer in their region.
> Trade with a dealer in another region.
> PREFERENCE an order for exactly what you request.
> Factory order from Japan.
If you ask them to Preference a vehicle they will know you are willing to wait and only accept what you want. I do not understand the entire process of how the Preference process works. From what I understand there are a few vehicles on the cargo ships coming from Japan to the U.S. distribution ports that are available. The dealer submits this Preference (list of vehicle type with options) to Toyota and they determine if it is available and if that dealer will get it. Maybe someone else can better clarify this process. That is how my dealer obtained the Limited that I purchased this week, took about a month.
I do not understand why X-REAS would not be offered in Minnesota but available in places like Florida. In the northeast, PA, NJ, DE, NY, many Limiteds are available with X-REAS.
I do believe that the Limited with all the options that you request are in short supply. Not that this is creating a price premium or demand, dealers are accepting anything from invoice to plus $500.00 over.
And use your phone to shop, this will save you much time. Unless X-REAS cannot be sold in MN., you will eventually find a dealer that will locate or order exactly what you request.
right now there is a $750 factory-dealer incentive on '04 4-runners
I my case, my Beacon rate was 780 and they told me annual rate for 60 Mo will be 3.99% and Finance guy print the contract with APR 4.25%. I didn't make a big deal and I bought my 4Runner.
Did anyone recently purchase Toyota extended warranty (7 yr/100K miles/$0 deductible)? What quotes did you receive?
There are three dealers on our list: Jim Coleman, Koons, and 355 Toyota. So far we dealt with Internet sales managers and experience has been positive.
Toyota of Turnersville, Turnersville, NJ
I had quotes from other dealers, one in writing for a little less. They dealer said at $1000.00 (my offer) they were not making any money on this but accepted when I said I would shop elsewhere, probably the Internet.
Maybe they did not make much profit on this warranty but they did o.k. selling me the new 4Runner.
Believe this Platinum retails for something like $1650.00?
You may find your best price on the Internet, good luck.
Part No. Name invoice($) MSRP($)
8688 04 limited V8 33012 36970
GY Side airbags 559 650
NH X-REAS 360 450
NV NAV system 2207 2675
RL Running light 32 40
RF Rear spoiler 160 200
SR Sunroof 720 900
CF floor mats 112 184
E5 Exhaust tip 42 64
GN Cargo net 34 49
WL wheel lock 37 59
TDA 700 700
Gas 6 6
Destination 540 540
Total invoice=$38,611, MSRP=$43487
Buying price is $38,263. Plus $125 doc/title fee and 6.75% tax. I got two dealers willing to sell me a Runner at this price and I choosed the one close to my home. I am happy with the price, though not with $700 TDA charge.
Dearler stock varies a lot from a place to another. Some dealers in my area claimed they only have 3 runners in a multi-state region, some have 7 of them in their lot for months. I asked about 20 dealers for a quote and got the best deal out them. Two dealers still have 03' limited (loaded) and want to sell them at 35-37k.
By the way, I got 3.74% APR financing for 60 moths by Chase. The best rate is NOT from TFS. In my area (I guess this is true for OH, MI, KY, TN), this special rate ends 12/24. I am in central Ohio.
I got educated a lot here by some other owners and hope my experience helps.
Happy holidays, eveyone!
2 hours later I was at Fred Anderson Toyota. Cut a deal and was out the door in an hour. They had to bring my car in from another city, but I picked it up 2 days later...What a difference!!! Customer service still exists, although its unfortunate that someone wanting to spend $30k plus on a new car still gets the runaround.
I'm new on this board and new to Toyota 4RUNEER.
I'd like to lease the car with Zero down.
My dealer offered me :
SR5 with V6
JBL sound system
Moonroof
Floor mats
and All standart features.
The lease price is 360 plus tax.
Zero downpayment , 750 bank fee , 450 security deposit.
Any advice is very aprisiated. I really don't have a clue how to lease the car.
Thank you very much.
Steve, Host
The latest quote I got was from the dealership in Metarire, LA, next to New Orleans, near Lakeside.
I got a quote for a basic SR5 basic low cost options, no sound systems, sun roof, things that add up. They quoted me $28,119 OTD. being from MS. this included 5% MS state tax of $1,339. In the ensuing discussion, I happen to mention the year end sales by Toyota and how dealers don't like to talk about hold back... Well before I could ask about incentives... this dealer gets a bit testy..... and says," I don't talk about hold back, this is my final price, and you're wasting my time". Wow all I was going to ask was about any customer year end incentives and whether or not I could come over and talk about the price he spit out!... So my experience with this particular dealer wasn't too good...
MY question is: Doesn't the $28,119 seem a bit high for a plain jane SR5??? I'd like to know because I am wanting to buy by years end or first week in Jan.
Keep shopping, but maybe focus on your out the door price and don't bring up holdback :-)
"Almost all dealerships consider holdback money "sacred" and are unwilling to share any portion of it with the consumer. Don't push the issue. Your best strategy is to avoid mentioning the holdback during negotiations. Mention holdback only if the dealer gives you some song-and-dance about not making any money when you know that isn't true."
Dealer Holdback
Steve, Host
X-Reas
Rear spoiler
Sunroof
Window tint
Side signal mirror upgrade
Stone leather
Driver/Pass curtain and side airbags
JBL w/6CD changer
DTR Lights
It will be ordered new since there isn't one like it on the lot. List is about $39k. The guy I'm dealing with said he'll sell it for $36k. Sounds like an excellent deal to me. Any advice/suggestions?
And if the Lakeside Toyota salesman talked to you that way, you should avoid the dealership at all costs. If their policies allow SALES people to talk that way to customers, imagine how the service people are.....
You are not considering a special order are you? I only want side air bags and I did a search of all the SR-5s and Sports in inventory in this entire area. Of 156 vehicles listed, NOT A SINGLE ONE had side air bags. If that is not poor judgment on Toyota's part, I don't know what is. But I am not ready to special order at this time, so will either wait for their policies to change or until another vehicle I like as much or better (that has side air bags) comes along. But personally, I cannot imagine how anyone in their right mind would pay what 4-Runners cost and not insist upon side air bags at the cost of just a few hundred more.
Just a piece of advice from my shop around experience. The Dealers advertise one vehicle each month to be sold at dead invoice, the price which you can see on internet, without Advertising fee. This is to attract customer and they only sell one vehicle a month to customer bringing that add or referring to that add.
90 % 2004 models comes with atleast Leather Wrap Steering Wheel and 17" alloy wheels, they only add up around 300 $ to cost but are really worth spending as they add a whole new look. Another option to consider, buying a 25 k SUV, is 3rd row seat. You can completly take it out, put an after market mat and leave no clue you even had it. But you never know when you want to tuck-in more ppl in you car and at that time it will be very helpfull even though it is little conjusted. The invoice cost is 575$ for thrid row.
I suggest if you see the add, call them and ask them if they still have that vehicle, if you really want to buy very basic model. otherwise expect alteast 600-700$ plus kbb, or edmunds invoice price in your negotiations. This include TDA, 100$ above invoice and Processing fee. My advise would be to never leave, roof rack, leather wrap steering wheel and audio controls.
asif
Limited 4WD V8 with following options:
Side airbags
X-REAS
Running light
Rear spoiler
Sunroof
floor mats
Exhaust tip
Cargo net
JBL 10spkr cd changer
Hood protector
$37,000
(plus DH and taxes)
V6
17" Wheels -$100
Moonroof- $900
Running boards
Roof Rack
The XY-70 Toyo Protection Package - $699-- that we all don't want to pay for!!
After a few discussions with the salesman we agreed on an OTD price of $26,997. I had all my quotes from area dealers, my edmunds.com estimate along with a Kelly Blue Book estimate. The salesman actually appreciated that I had done my homework to some degree.
The OTD price included their admin fees of $299, and 1% AL state tax. They are a really good dealership, very high volume, and there was not one pressure statement made to me.
Living in MS I will pay the 5% MS tax, then once ou get the tag purchased in MS. the State of Al reinburses you the 1% tax. So all told the SR5 will cost $27.9K. The big difference was the attitude of the dealership and the salesman. Much better than any of the New Orleans, Gulfport MS. or Pascagoula, MS dealers I talked too.
Paid $29409 + plus 3% NC tax + $61 tag + $299 doc fees...
Options:
1. Moonroof
2. Side Airbags
3. Rear Spoiler
4. Double Decker
5. Carpet Mats
6. Daytime Running Lights
7. 17" Wheels
8. Leather Steering Wheel
9. Roof Rack
10. 115V output
They were trying to offer me a 6 years, 80000 miles refundable warranty for $1398 !!! If I don't use it I get back everything but $50 Admin fee. I have till Friday to decide on this... I can take it after Friday but as per the guy there, it becomes a non-refundable after Friday!!
Is this warranty really worth it?? I plan to keep the SUV for atleast 6-10 years.