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2013 and Earlier - Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • I bought a new 2010 4Runner in January 2010, just as they first arrived on my dealer's showroom floor. I had been shopping for 6 months to replace my 2002 X-Terra, which was, by the way, an excellent car all-around, but it looked like an off-road vehicle with lots of scratches, dents, dings, stains on upholstery, etc. I used it as a car to haul things back and forth to the barn, for dog transport, etc. It had been really put to good use, and was a great utility vehicle, but was in scratch and dent condition. It was loved.

    My dealership was Toyota of Hattiesburg (MS) and I had a very good experience buying the car. It only took about one hour to complete the deal, start to finish, and I was on my way. They've been very good about answering my questions following the sale, and also answering questions about the Toyota recall.

    I subscribed to several services to help me arrive at the correct price for my 4Runner. What I learned was that, pre-recall, there were no discounts to be had on the 2010 4Runner. I looked around for a 2010 4Runner and eventually paid the full sticker price of $43,850, plus tax and title for a 2010 Limited with every possible feature, except no third row seats: mine has the pullout tailgate party package. I should note that the dealer gave me $5,000 for the X-Terra mentioned above, which was probably $2,000 more than it was worth. The new 4Runner has been a great car so far, and I have few complaints (the interior lighting is not very good, and the USB port is in an impossible spot to access). I love the full-time 4WD---it was great with the bad weather, snow and ice we had this winter.

    However, all of that being said, I parked it last month and have not driven it again. Unlike die-hard former 4Runner owners I read on the blogs, I am afraid that Toyota is not fully disclosing everything, and that the 4Runner is the next shoe to drop. I've read several credible accounts of unintended acceleration in the 4Runner, and frankly I just don't want to wait to find out. I know I'll take a beating on the sale (it has 5,000 miles and 2 dealers have offered me $35,000 to buy it) and I would prefer to keep it if someone can tell me definitively that the system used in other Toyotas is not the same one used in the 4Runner.

    I tried to swap it this weekend for a 2010 Ford F-150 King Ranch Demo with 5800 miles, but haven't yet been able to reconcile myself to the financial beating I'll take. I'd really prefer to keep the 4Runner.

    Any comments, suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • fxoffroadfxoffroad Posts: 67
    Your post doesn't hold water. Having just done a google search, I'm unable locate any documentation or articles that would suggest the 4Runner has issues with unintended acceleration.

    Of course you had a good buying experience, you are a car dealership's dream - you paid full price for a vehicle that, had you dealt with dealers, could of been discounted to @ invoice or about 500 over invoice. There is no party mode/sliding tray "package" as you suggest - those are standard on the Limited. A Limited w/ Navigation (no third row seating) and a few other throw in options (floor mats, exhaust tip, cross bars) should cost under $43,000. Looks like you paid additional dollars for dealer stuff, undercoating, weather protection, etc.

    You clearly state that you like your vehicle and it seems are basing your decision not to drive because of rumors that can not be substantiated. Should you trade, you indicate that you'll get $35,000 for your Toyota - a loss of about $8,500. Sounds like a fear based decision without much fact to support your assertion.

    If you're willing to take a loss that great, based on fiction rather than fact - that's your decision, though fiscally seems rather ill-advised.

    Sounds like there's some other underlying issue here that you haven't documented in your post.
  • There are actually several reports of 4Runners and unintended acceleration, and here is a link to one of them:

    URL to article: http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-toyota-4runner-exhibits-acceleration-brake-sy- mptoms.html

    If you wish for me to, I will post links to additional articles on acceleration, as well as linkage, transmission, rust and related problems with the 4Runner which Toyota has recently owned up to, but of which 4Runner owners have long complained.

    No, I am not a car-bargain shopper, and there were a ton of dealer-installed goodies...it's a great vehicle. However, there is nothing I'm failing to disclose in the post. I am concerned about Toyota's failure to own up to the other problems in their extensive line. I hoped by posting here, someone who had similar concerns might help point me in the direction of information showing that the 4Runner should not be expected to experience problems.
  • fxoffroadfxoffroad Posts: 67
    You asked for feedback, and I gave you some. Being defensive really doesn't drive your point home. You found one, just one article on the net about a 2004 - and that article isn't even "proven to be an issue".

    Sounds like you just want to stir the pot. Or you purchased a vehicle and didn't think it through - which is evident by the price you paid for the vehicle.

    Why don't you take your vehicle back to the dealer and make them buy it back.
    :P
  • boats3boats3 Posts: 40
    edited April 2010
    Just bought another 4Runner, my second in about 20 months. Unfortunately my FIL totaled the first one, a 2006 :cry: Anyway, I finally found another V8, need it for towing, which you can only get a used one. This one was in good condition overall, needed a little owners TLC with the cleaning, dealer did not do a good job with prep. Paid just over 20K out the door. It is a Limited with the air ride, Navi, Back up Camera, leather, moonroof, etc...the only thing I can see missing compared to my 2006 was the seat memory. Although the 06 did not have the air ride, Navi and Back up Camera. TMV came in around 20k for the car and I got it for it with all the fees, taxes, etc.
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    How many miles were on it and what year. I have been looking for a V8 as well.
  • boats3boats3 Posts: 40
    2005, and 53,000. I bought it in North Jersey.
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Posts: 382
    Drive and enjoy your 4Runner. All vehicles have issues, but I haven't heard of UA on any 4Runner.
  • chuck1919chuck1919 Posts: 176
    The previous 4th generation having SUA (sudden unintended acceleration) is completely nonsense. There are other "4Runner Forums" on the net and now many 4th generation 4Runner owners have well over 100K on them with little or no issues.

    I have not read ONE REPORT of SUA on ANY 4Runner forum involving the 4th generation.

    I have 75,000 miles on mine with just a sunroof that got off-track and one shock that leaked. I tow a 5,000 pound 21 foot travel trailer on a regular basis.

    You basing your decision not to drive yours based on ONE REPORT on the net? After all, everything you read on the net is TRUE, isn't it? :)
  • coleonyxcoleonyx Posts: 3
    Hi all,

    I am interested in a 2010 4Runner trail, and am interested in knowing what the going price is in Southern California. I'm looking for one with the KDSS. I have a quote for 36,600, is this a good deal for SoCal?

    Thanks.
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    The only way to compare is through the MSRP price. What is the MSRP price on the vehicle that you were quoted? Did it have NAV? Then other may be able to provide you with an opinion.
  • coleonyxcoleonyx Posts: 3
    MSRP is 38400. This is with the kdss option only; no navigation option. Thanks.
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    In our area in the Northwest, the dealer is taking approximately $2700 off MSRP on trails with no haggling. I have seen quite a few on the lots. Also, interest in this forum seems to be going down. Don't see many posts raving over the new 4-Runner. Good luck in your purchase.
  • coleonyxcoleonyx Posts: 3
    Cool...thanks, sounds like a good time to wait and see.
  • t4r2010t4r2010 Posts: 1
    edited May 2010
    2010 T4R RWD V6 SR5

    1. Base Price: Inovice $25,674 (MSR $29,175)
    2. 2% Hoold Back: Invoice $583 (MSR 0)
    3. 1% Finance Reserve: Invoice $291 (MSR 0)
    4. Total Options: Invoice $3,351 (MSR $4,259)
    5. T.M.F: Invoice $ 870 (MSR 0)
    6. Delivery: Invoice 850 (MSR 0)

    Total: Invoice $31,619 (MSR: $34,289)

    Final:
    Selling price: $31, 700
    Tax: $1980
    Title: $110
    State Inspection: $24
    Doc: $190
    Deputy Service Fee: $5
    Inventory Tax: $74

    OTD = $34,083
  • jameswennjameswenn Posts: 5
    2010 SR5 2WD
    Convenience package, 3rd row seating, power seats, running boards

    MSRP 34,074
    Paid 32250 + TTL in SoCal

    Finance guy was a jerk. Tried to pull a fast once with interest rates by getting you to focus on the payment and extending the term.
  • ichor0416ichor0416 Posts: 10
    t4r2010, thank you for your intelligent rendering of prices. I wish all posters were as intelligent and thoughtful. People who just state or ask for "otd" prices... shockingly stupid.
  • agnostoagnosto Posts: 205
    edited May 2010
    and got an awesome deal purchasing a 2010 Prius from FitzMall in MD. My only regret so far is, I did not purchase the Prius in place of the 4Runner 5 months ago... so far and after around 300 miles I have a computer average 53.0 MPG in my Prius IV with NAV... the new Prius is an amazing vehicle...
  • piernsurfpiernsurf Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    I am looking to get a 2010 4runner and wanted to see what everyone was seeing in terms of APR. Thx in advance for sharing.

    - FYI I'm planning to put 30% down and my credit is excellent; I am looking for 0.0 or 0.9 or something similar
  • alexoralexor Posts: 1
    Unbelievable transaction. It seems like you really don't care about money, your money. Safety first is absolutely right.
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