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Jeep Scrambler

moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
edited March 23 in Jeep
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  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=42394

    Jeep will sell a pickup derivative of the Wrangler in 2004.

    The Scrambler, developed initially for military use overseas, goes on sale as a 2005 model in mid-July 2004.
  • I just hope they have a rubicon version.
    I can't believe they would actually put a 4 cyc in it. What a waste. I don't plan on buying a new vehicle again, so I hope the used ones hit the market quickly.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    If they are putting a diesel in the Liberty then DC should offer a diesel in the Scrambler and Wrangler. Sure, not everyone wants a diesel, but it would be excellent in a four wheel drive vehicle like a jeep. Great torque, great mpg..
    It would get me out of my Toyota. Are you listening DC?
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    her '81 Scrambler she bought new.
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    Now, give me a real back seat and a full soft-top as an option. Oh, and the diesel is a nice dream as well.
  • ...a useable ranch Jeep!!

    DC: Give us one with no spark plugs (aka Diesel), and I just might have to get one (or two).
  • My Boss had one of these in the early 70's. It was a 1969 if memory serves me correctly. It wasn't called a Scrambler. Don't remember the designation. It had a full soft top, 4 cyl. engine and big tires. It was slow and noisy but would pull a "ton", even with that engine. Anybody else remember? If you don't mind slow, the new Scrambler with a 4 cyl. would probably do the job, with the right gears.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    Maybe the old J-10 pickup? The Scrambler was built "81 thru '85, but was called a CJ-8 the last year (maybe 2 yrs) instead of Scrambler.
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    It depends what you are using the Jeep for. But, considering that there is no real advantage (gas milage or otherwise) for the 4 cyl., I would go for the 6. This engine is bound to be offered as an option.
  • kelt_dankelt_dan Posts: 1
    I think the model 50svintage is referring to is the CJ-6. It was a stretched CJ-5, narrow track with small door openings. It was built from 1956 to 1976, but was never popular. Originally it was 20" longer (101" wheelbase) than the CJ-5, but was changed to 23" longer (104" wheelbase) in 1972. It did not have the long overhang behind the rear axle like the Scrambler. That overhang was one of the main things people pointed to as a design flaw on the Scrambler, I'm glad to see the TJ-L doesn't have it.
  • kelt dan, I think you've got it. I remember the CJ-6 part now. I also remember My Boss pulling my heavy '66 Scout around in a tug-of-war with his Jeep like I was on ice.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    but not a "6".
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    I have seen the 6 in Jeep books. It was mostly sold to utilities, construction companies, etc. I think that it has a pretty long wheel base and while that may have made it better off road, at least concerning departure angles, it wasn't as good looking as the Scrambler.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    a CJ6 and just didn't realize it. Thanks.
  • kyjeepsterkyjeepster Posts: 11
    Rumor has been circulating on the internet that the Jeep Scrambler has been cancelled plus the press release has been removed from from the Jeep website and the pictures at the dearlership on thier interactive brocure have been removed.

    Any body else hear about this??
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    I have not heard this, yet. But, I would not be surprised. I thought it kind of odd to be bringing this out with the next generation Wrangler just around the corner.

    Shame though, I was looking forward to a little variety.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    yesterday. News article in it states the 2004 Scrambler should be out this Fall. Goes on to talk about some of the options, etc. 'Course this Mag was put together months ago, so things could have changed.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    Sport Truck calls it a "soft announcement", but their sources tell them there is very little doubt about it. The Scrambler will arrive next Summer as an '05 model.
  • shill3shill3 Posts: 124
    Mike's Totally Free Jeep News has not announced any change in the Scrambler release, so here's hoping!

    My favorite buzz sight seems to have gone belly-up, so Mike's is all I have left.
  • kyjeepsterkyjeepster Posts: 11
    [Raising my cup of Java] I really hope that I will be able to get a Scramble next fall. It would really solve the problem of my geriatric 1992 XJ Laredo.

    I am just wishing that it has an option of a full length hardtop and a back seat with a little bit of legroom. Then I can pull the top off and the back seat out and put a half-top and buzz around in a cute Jeep Truck.

    3 in suspension lift, 33X10.5" BFG AT/KO tires and a MileMarker winch and it will be perfect.
  • kyjeepster,

    Right on with the MileMarker - they are real heavy duty compared to Warn, etc.

    Also, I hope that the Scrambler will be offered with a full length soft top or, if not, that Best Tops will do one.

    Jim
  • Hey the CJ6 did not sell, the Scrambler did not sell. I do not know why Jeep thinks anybody will buy this version. Maybe a version with 4 doors and a full top but me thinks that would not sell many copies either.
  • txyank1txyank1 Posts: 1,010
    what the plan is, but maybe it's not to sell a ton of 'em. Many of the niche vehicles today are only intended to be limited, and only sold for a few years (like the new T-Bird). And of course some just turn out that way (like the Blackwood),
  • Hey DC are you reading this? a pickup w/ 2 seats?!! are you kidding? every maker is making their living off 3 to 4 passengers AND
    a bed. Where is THE DAKAR?. Please don't try to pass off that Liberty as the result of the Dakar project. Bail out now before it's too late
    and put the Dakar in instead. I am sure the show response on the Dakar was much more
    positive than the rehash lonely guy Scrambler.
    It has already failed once. Why dig it up? Toyota has this covered with the Tacoma. Break new gound, not wind.
  • nyjeepnyjeep Posts: 1
    I think its a great idea bringing a versio of the Scrambler back. They need to put more power in it though and offer more to go with it. Possibly a diesel, rubicon, soft top, and so on. The should mount the spare in the bed like the older Scramblers, it has ba better look to it but reduces space. Why anyone would want to have a full time full top on a Scrambler makes no sense. If you want that go out and buy a Wrangler pull out the back seat, and there you go. Though it makes no sense to me it does to others and i'm sure besttop will offer it.
  • rwigrwig Posts: 3
    My neighbor has an old Scrambler in his drive. It has a neat canopy type top over the bed and his company logo painted on the doors. I certainly don't need this type of vehicle but I want one. If it was available now I would give it first consideration. But it depends some on the price. If it is less than $15k then great. But if Chrysler prices it at $25k then it competes with a lot of other stuff such as pretty much any other pickup which can be had with 4x4 and an extended or double cab. Available in July next year could mean not really available until September. Don't know if it is worth that long a wait.
  • The following appeared in this weeks Automotive News which I subscribe to:

    Wrangler:

    The off-road vehicle will be redesigned for the 2007 model. The Wrangler, the only Jeep that is body-on-frame, likely will remain on its own platform.

    Scrambler:

    The Scrambler, a pickup derivative of the Jeep Wrangler, will bow in 2004 as a 2005 model. Jeep is aiming at the youth market with the Scrambler, a Wrangler based SUV that seats two and has a four-foot pickup bed.

    Initially developed for military use, the Scrambler concept sits on a stretched Wrangler wheelbase. That allows the addition of a 4-foot pickup bed behind a two-passenger compartment.

    Four- and six-cylinder engines will be available.

    Initially, Jeep planned to produce about 20,000 Scramblers a year in Toledo, Ohio; but those numbers could increase.

    Vehicles such as the Scrambler will play a bigger role in the company's bid to win young buyers.
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    How about the 4.7L V8? I mean, some people who buy the Scrambler JUST MIGHT want to haul something with it! CJs were offered with V8s for years, why did it stop with the Wrangler? The 4 banger just won't cut it, since it barely powers the Wrangler...especially with an automatic transmission. It won't steal sales away from the Dakota, because anyone can clearly see that the Dakota is a better value all around.

    If any Jeep fans want anything, it's the DAKAR. DC, face it...the Liberty IS NOT a 4 door Wrangler. You already have the extended TJ-L platform, now put a top and some seats in and sell it! I'll be at the dealer the first day it's out!
  • I must be getting old! I don't quite understand the fascination with power (V-8 or diesel) in a 4 wheel drive vehicle. What would you guess... 99% of the 4x4's bought today will never see a dirt road, much less a mud bog? Is it the need to go 70 mph on the freeway? Or 40 mph through the woods to get to the hunting cabin?

    I've owned 2 4x4's. A '66 Scout (carb.) and a '86 Ranger (efi). Both with 4 cyl. engines. They would both take me where I wanted to go. NO, they would not go up hill at 70 mph, but I always ended up at the top of the hill just the same. One would plow snow and the other haul dirt up that same hill.

    I guess it doesn't depend on WHAT you want to do with your 4 wheel drive. It's how FAST you want to do it.
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