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Chevrolet Aveo Sedan

lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
edited March 15 in Chevrolet
Here is the new Daewoo-based Chevy models coming out for 2004. Looks like the subsompact low-end segment is starting to get competitive again.

2004 Chevy Aveo:
http://osx.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2003/02/12/WKA2003021240033_pv.jpg

2004 Chevy Aveo 5-door:
http://osx.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2003/02/12/WKA2003021240070_pv.jpg

What do you think?
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Comments

  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I think it's a great idea. The Koren companies are feeding off the bottom of the market with really cheap cars. This gives GM a product they can compete with, and requires very little investment. The next thing they need to do is take the next generation Cavalier up scale to fight with the Civics and Corollas of the world.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Not bad at all. The sedan looks kinda like an Echo though, with a little of a Chrysler minivan front end.

    But will the Cavalier have left a bad enough taste in the mouths of consumers to spoil this new entry? That should be the question Chevy is asking themselves.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    ??

    Cavalier still sells well and I know lots of people who have no problem with the car. Yup, some people with bad experiences wouldn't buy any Chevy, but there is nothing in particular about this car or GM that would keep people away in any significant numbers.

    Our 2 Cavaliers were both fine.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    This car is smaller and less powerful than the current Cavalier. The next generation Cavalier will be somewhat larger than the ION. They really are not aiming for the same market.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The Cavalier might be thought of differently in Canada, but here in the US it's basically a "throw away" car.

    Yet it almost beat the new Saturn ION in the CR test... hmmm...
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Wonder how those will compare with the Cavalier, Accent, Protege, Civic etc..

    Cav is not a car many "aspire" to vs corolla, civic, pro etc but its low up front costs and financing deals attract many here.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Perhaps among your friends who drive more expensive cars, but millions of Americans (and Canadians including my mother in-law who doesn't have a lot of money) have them and rely them every day to get places. I'm sure they don't share your snobbish view.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Apparently the sedan will be called the Optra up here.

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/030213-6.htm
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I think Canadiandriver made an error. The stats in the article match the Suzuki Forenza compact not the Aveo subcompact. The Aveo is supposed to have a 97" wheelbase not 102.4 and a 1.6 liter engine not 2.0. I know Canada is different but not THAT different. They either need to put a picture of the correct car or rewrite the article.
  • 3871338713 Posts: 26
    Did GM do any of the engineering or design on this car?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    You're right, I do have a snobbish view. If you call having a car that can pass a repair facility without stopping. Every one of my friends who had Cavaliers have had problems with them. One (with a 96 base auto coupe) even had to replace his transmission at 100K miles.

    I wouldn't trust a GM product as far as I could throw it, and I couldn't even pick it up. I am starting to feel the same about VW too, and I own one of those.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    38713 : I don't think GM did anything on this car (aside from rebadge it). GM only bought the company last year.

    lngtonge18 : You may be right.

    vocus : You've changed your views a lot then as you used to like some GM cars. Interesting.
    Maybe you should go hang out with the Accord guys. They all drive perfect cars, LOL. As for the Cavalier, it works and it's cheap in spite of what you say. Not everyone can afford a VW or BMW. My neighbor had to change his Honda transmission after 10K so does that make your friends Cavalier a better car cause it went 100K? I hardly think so.
  • vuefor2vuefor2 Posts: 490
    This one looks like a bigger Echo.

    Lots of new small cars.. seems like a shift in priorities with gas at $1.80/gal.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Like I said, I don't trust GM. From experience with my mother's Pontiacs with their electrical problems (Bonnevilles), to my experiece with the POS Cavalier, I don't care for GM cars. Maybe I will change my mind one day, but I don't know. Ever hear the saying, "A burned child dreads fire?". Well there you go. I don't want to take a chance with a car that I have had problems with in the past. Like I said, I feel the same about VW, and this will more than likely be my last one. A pity, because it's the most comfortable car (for me) that I ever owned.

    I test drove an Accord this past weekend, to see what it was like. I hated it. I also drove an Altima, and I would have one of those in a second.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I really like the looks of the Aveo. It's very attractive and so cute! Has anyone found a picture of the interior? I hope it came from the Forenza design school instead of the Echo's.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Anyone notice the play on words that seems to be going on between Suzuki and GM? Look at the close similarities in car names:

    Suzuki Aerio ----- Chevy Aveo

    Oldsmobile Firenza ----- Suzuki Forenza
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    lngtonge18 : Optra is indeed the name for the sedan up here. I just saw it again in the newspaper today. Aveo is the name of the hatchback only.

    vocus : Cavalier is not a great car, but we had 2 of them and bother were good A-B cars. Our friends have an Altima (though it was an early 02) and it's been in the shop a few times. They may have got the kinks out now though. VW reliability is the same worse than GM on average, VW has done a great job of convincing people it's better than it is.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    As far as interior decor, no one can touch VW that I have seen yet in the price class. As far as customer service and projected reliability, they are at the bottom of the heap.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    vocus and dindak, you have each expressed your opinions about Cavaliers and some other off-topic vehicles.

    Please move on.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Interesting. Than CanadianDriver just put the wrong name and photo on the article. Does Chevy get a version of the Suzuki Forenza in Canada?
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The article I read said the sedan was called Optra and the hatch was Aveo.

    I don't know, I'm just telling you what I read.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    the only real good thing about a chevy badged daewoo is that maybe they will price it at like 9 grand, and with my GM card, that would knock it down to 7 grand. I could sell my other car and pocket 5 grand in cash. then, i could have a 2 grand to boot for a new Aveo and put it on payments for 60 months. I'd have a 40 dollar a month car payment.

    I can see how in that light it makes a good competitor to a Hyundai Accent or something but the Accent has a 100k powertrain warranty. The Aveo has the GM card.

    Since I can buy a new Cav (not like I would tho) for a little under 11 grand I would think the Aveo has to be real bargain basement to become a huge volume car.

    Maybe Chevy needs a car like this to stay relevant to many who don't have over 10-15k for a car.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Apparently the new Cavalier coming next year will be moving up to Civic levels of refinement and price so the Aveo will not really have the competition it does now from within.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    Yeah, and the new Cavalier (or Cavalier replacement if rumors of a new name come true) will be somewhat larger, a la the Ion.

    It is kind of funny to think these Korean imports are priced lower than what I paid for my home audio visual set up.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    "Apparently the new Cavalier coming next year will be moving up to Civic levels of refinement and price"

    like the Ion?

    of course then, the Civic isn't exactly winning rewards these days either.

    I don't foresee the newest Cav being able to be mentioned as top dog but maybe it would elevate itself to at least being able to be mentioned in company with Protege, Corolla, Jetta, etc.
  • avemanaveman Posts: 122
    This link is to a UK site that has a lot of info on the Kalos, which is the european version of the Aveo.

      http://www.carpages.co.uk/daewoo/news.asp
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    saw one in front of the Borders I went to yesterday and it was red. I only saw the front, so I couldn't tell whether it was an LS model or not.
  • rayrockrayrock Posts: 14
    the aveo looks like a good commuter car if only it comes with cruise control at least as an option. too many entry level cars don't even offer it. as for reliability, my '01 civic has been disappointing and now i'm looking elsewhere.i hope the general doesn't do to the aveo what it did with the opel kadett (lemans)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,711
    to tinker with it....best to just leave the designing to Daewoo(and now GM Daewoo Auto&Technology Co.). GM does not have a good small car reputation, at least since about 1970 or so. That's if you count the Camaro-Firebird as small cars. =:)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I saw the Aveo sedan and 5-door at the Atlanta auto show. They were displayed on a rotating platform. These 2 cars are very attractive for such an inexpensive car and they look much more substantial than the old Metro. The interior looked nice and actually had some style to it. They also were well-equipped with power everything, power sunroof, alloy wheels, and fog lights. I think this car will sell well and could lure people away from Hyundai and Kia.
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