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  • My car just hit 50k and I had to replace the timing belt, head and 3 valves. Thank god I got the extended warenty. The only thing that is costing me is the rental.. but I still say it should not take 2 1/2 weeks to get this done.. Maybe you have a lemon.. or hes hard on the car? I just got lucky I guess that this is the worst problem Ive had other than the thermostat housing going on me in the middle of Arizona. Its to be expected when the hottest part of the car is cheep plastic.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    What year is the car? I had the original Daewoo (Pontiac Lemans-1988) with a similar engine-1.6 L, though a single cam. The new engine with the dual cam has a beefed up block and other parts though, and is supposedly quieter. My 88 model had 74 hp I believe, which was enough for most driving situations with a 4-speed. I too had an extended warranty that worked out well. Though the car got very good mileage, its first year or more had electrical problems. Every time it rained or there was moisture in the air, I had to worry about it not starting. They put the ignition coil on the bottom of the car in a stupid place to collect moisture. I also had the starter go bad and as expected for a foreign car, it was expensive to repair. Lucky for the extended warranty or the part alone would have been $425 + labor.
  • Did you have a law suit against them yet? My car did the same as yours!! Please reply I really would like to know.
  • Please do not buy this car for it almost got me killed in traffic, when the engine misfired shutting my car down. I was very lucky that another car did not crash in the back of my car. I had to get someone to help me push my car to the side of the road. My Aveo is a 2005 with 41,000 miles on it and has never had any problems or troubles until now. I had my car towed to the local Chevrolet Dealer in Gainesville Florida. I had been advised by a friend that there was a tecchincal service bulletin by General Motors for all 2004,2005,2006& 2007 Chevy Aveos for a intermittent Misfire. The misfire may ocur under any operating condition and may or may not be noticed. We a asked about this problem and the service guy denied any thing about the problem. The following are some of the various driveability problems- extended crank time, hard to start, mil/ses illuminated with DTCs,lack of power and surge or chuggle, rough idle, intermitting misfire. Yet the cheverolet service technician told me that I needed new Platinum spark pluge, which generally last up to 60 thousand miles and a new coil along with having the fuel injector cleaned, because the fuel injuctor was very cloged and every thing was so badly corroded. How could things be this bad on a car with 41,000 miles, that has regular maintance done on it. The pluges are platinum, which should last up 60 thousand miles and I have had no problems until my car misfired shutting down on me. The Cheverolet dealer refused to acknowledge that there was this problem with Aveos Misfiring along with other problems such as the belt on these cars. When all was said and done, I ened up paying to have the car fixed, because the dealership refused to do any thing about these defects. My husband has since emailed my concerns to Cheverolet main corporate office. I would not buy another Cheverolet car after reading all the reviews on this car for safety. (What a nightmare)
  • ilaveoilaveo Posts: 26
    Sorry you had car trouble tabbycat, but clogged injectors are usually caused by bad gas and can happen in any car. The problem is pretty common. It is not unusual for a car to have a TSB concerning best practices for cleaning clogged injectors. Similarly, intermittent misfire is a fault caused by a number of possible conditions in any car (bad plugs, loose plug wires, clogged injectors,....). Again, many (most?) cars have a TSB that outlines best practice diagnostics for misfires. It sounds like your tech probably was going down the standard troubleshooting list and replacing everything until something worked. He may have replaced some parts that were still good. Most likely you need to blame the bad fuel that someone sold you rather than the fuel injectors.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I agree with the other poster in that it is likely the gas that caused the problem. I have watched the forums for a couple years now and I have never seen the hesitation misfiring issue here before. The spark plugs will foul out with bad gas.

    If you get a Toyota and you keep going to the same gas station you will have the same issues but will you keep buying Toyota's after that?
  • can you specify where you found calif.law on timing belts,statue no.etc.
  • my girflfriend bought her Chevy aveo brand new and has had her 2006 Chevrolet aveo for a good while now almost has 49,000 miles ok.... we were leaving from target and this new light comes on in the car of course me being the male noticed it right away by my girlfriend didnt ..... im thinking what the hell is this [non-permissible content removed] so im like put your seat belt on so she does and then i do cause i mean airbags are made to help save lives but can take lives ..... so im like lets just go and park at walmart so we do ..... so i get her owners guide out and i find out what this disturbing light means ....are you aveo readers ready for this ..... THE AIRBAGS READINESS LIGHT WHICH MEANS......THERE IS AN ELECTRICAL MALFUNCTION, DIAGNOSTICS MALFUNCTION, ETC.... WHICH ALSO I HAVE COME TO FIND OUT CHEVROLET AVEO CARS HAVE BAD AIRBAG PROBLEMS AND PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE THE AIRBAGS DIDNT DEPLOY EVEN AT 70 MPH AND THAT TO ME DESERVES A RECALL ON ALL AVEOS THATS A REALLY BIG DEFECT AS FAR AS YOUR SAFETY THATS LIKE SEAT BELTS THAT WILL COME LOOSE WHEN HIT BY ANOTHER CAR YOU CAN GET SLUNG OUT THE WINDOW BUT IN THIS CASE WITH NO AIRBAGS YOU CAN BREAK YOUR NECK AND ETC I DONT WANT TO GET INTO THE FINER DETAILS .... so if anyone knows what the warranty or anything about the chevrolet aveo airbags or gm's policy on the airbags like mile/year warrenty on the airbags please let me know by contacting me at ..........shark_zombie@yahoo.com.............think of it like this if it was your loved one driving a car like this wouldnt you want chevrolet to do something about it please go to http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/index.cfm and make a complaint onlineif you have the same problem theres gonna be more people with this problem i would bet money on it because its korean made with a bow tie on it
  • dont buy an aveo my girlfriend has had hers a little over a year and half and it has 46,000 miles on it and the car just yesterday put a light up and i looked in the owners manuel and it says the airbags , electrical, and diagnostics system has a malfunction so my friend i dont know you but i weight 255 and im 6'0" its a comfortable and roomey car but the downfall is it doesnt have any upgrades for it your stuck with slowness and everything will have to be custom made and now the second bad thing about it chevrolet puts sorry tires on them my girlfriend had the car 2 monthes and the tire on my side blew out costing her 125 dollars because the tire to fit her rim is pretty much a special order item we went to about 9 places like tire kingdom ,tires plus, walmart etc finally we found 1 place a family owned store that just happened to have 1 and now this with the airbags i just dont know what to think about this car and my friend the 100,000mile 10 year warrenty is bs i have proof http://www.carbuyingtips.com/warranty.htm i mean i dont know what else to tell you but dont buy a chevrolet buy a mitsubishi man ive had a mitsubishi that i have had for a long time and only thing that went wrong is because of me not a defect and my friend switched the boost controller to high and drove it for 7 hrs in high boost and the turbo blew but the turbo was from 1990 and this was 2004 so if i was you go with a japanese car and mitsubishi will deal with you better believe me by the way my girlfriends aveo is a LT which means it was top of the line aveo and its still not on my list for buying looks i give it a 6 out of 10, engine performance i give it 4 out of 10, durability 0 out of 10 its not gonna last
  • Does anyone have a belt routing diagram for an 04 Aveo. I thought most all cars had the diagram shown somewhere in the engine compartment, but I don't see one. Thanks.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I would rather take a chance with an Aveo than any Mitsu. Mitsubishi probably will not even be around in the U.S. within 5-years. They are the worse of the worst.
  • ilaveoilaveo Posts: 26
    Personally, I try to find out what the source of a warning light is before I conclude a car is junk. For all you know a mouse chewed a wire or something like that. The Dodge badged Mitsubishi I owned had a ton of AT problems.
  • well you wanna bash on a mitsubishi how bout the 4g63 turbo engine which is in my car which in the import world is known as the worlds best most reliable 4 cyl engine and it is the worlds fastest 4 cylinder that is faster than the worlds fastest 6 cylinder so talk your $#!+ but my experience with chevrolet is that there 4 cylinders arent worth buying my girlfriend bought it the same reason everyone else does good gas mileage and its cheap but thats what they think ..... the tires for one are hard to find and have to be special ordered $92- $169 dollars each ok thats freaking rediculous they act like this car needs v and z rated tires i found some falken h rated tires for my girlffriend for hers but the total still came out to 460 dollars for tires all the way thats with basic install ok and as far as parts for the car you cant buy from chevrolet they dont have them and cant get them on a freaking 2 year old car so dont give me $#!+ about mitsubishi i can go right now and buy any part i need for my car "ANYTHING" alot of times they keep it in stock you can say what you want but you have no clue what your talking about if you knew your information you wouldnt have bought an aveo in the first place either i told my girlfriend not to buy an aveo but her dad insisted she get a chevy made vehicle now see what trouble shes in i just want to clarify that because it wasnt my idea to get her into it my 1997 mitsubishi eclipse gst is the most reliable car ive ever had i will keep it forever i will never sell it it is my baby and at 135,000 miles it hasnt skipped a beat and want because it is a true race car and has a truely race inspired engine that was built to take all the punishment you can throw at it and if you dont beleive me type in "BRENT RAU" or go to http://dsmvideo.vidiac.com/category/Brent+Rau/0/3df54ef0-82c1-49cf-b89f-985e016d- - 5e1b.htm if you wanna take a look at what the engine in my car is capable of YOU ARE A BUSTER in terms of what me and my buddys call people like you i know my $h!+ buddy and a chevy aveo isnt worth 8,000 brand new ......if anyone has anything to say about a mitsubishi please say something i will prove you wrong again and again i have proof mofo were is your proof on aveos oh thats right no one gives a $#!+ cause its a sorry car that my girlfriend bought and has wanted out of it the 2nd month she had it but she cant she has to pay them off cuase no one wants to buy it from her
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    If you live in the U.S. and follow auto's seriously than you will know that Mitsubishi as a company is pretty bad. Yes they have a compact WRX car with a high output turbo, but that doesn't make up for the rest of the mediocre company. The companies products from top to bottom are the worst in the industry in reliability except for maybe Kia according to several publications. One fast WRX doesn't make a company the best. Mitsubishi is again on a marketing campaign saying they are the fastest growing Japanese company which they state every few years. What they base that on is weak sales one year and when a new model comes out and brings their sales higher than the previous year they again re-use their old fastest growing Japanese company misinformation again. This company will be the first of the Imports gone from the U.S. and it probably will be within 5-years.

    I am not sure what you mean by Mitsubishi having the fastest 4-cylinder engine. Previously Honda Civic's had all the records before the Chevy Cobalt came out which re-wrought the Guiness book of World Records in almost every catagory. Asperated or non-asperated the Cobalt took all of the records and is dominate throughout the U.S. in bracket, stock, and modified racing. Also the Cobalt took the Civic's records at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    What I meant is they have they Lancer, Suburu has the WRX. There are people satisfied in one way or another with every brand and believe it or not there are groups of people who think Yugo's are the best, all I am saying is some automakers are better than others and Mitsubishi is not one of the better ones. The JD Power 2007 Dependability Study didn't feature any Mitsubishi's though the Chevy Aveo and Hyundai Accent where tops in their catagory.
  • chevy aveo 2004-2007 with vin #6-rpo L91 built prior to vin@7B797231 if the service light comes on intermittently and the hold or other lights come on and then go off later after stopping and parking or restarting the engine-- there is a good chance that the valve guide seals are bad. check chevy dealer service document # T3782 or #2010397. my girl friend brought a certified aveo from a dealer in spokane and had it one year, from 25,000 to 37,000 miles and the dealer replace the ign. coil and said that was it. it wasn't!! the next day the service engine came back! they kept the car for a week and had to fight with GM to warranty the repair! it takes about a week to do the work. they have replace all 8exhaust valves, all 8intake valves all 16 valve seals appleway chevy does good work in spokane. the 1stcompany just change plugs and charge $45-we change dealers!and we are happy with appleway!
  • wave54wave54 Posts: 209
    What are the exact symptoms while driving? I have occasional misfires, especially on hills or from a start and sometimes the "check engine" light comes on. The CEL will go off after a stop and will drive well after that.

    Mine's an '04 -- I heard about a number of 04 and 05 models having valves that had to be replaced, but the problems didn't appear until I was well out of warranty.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Rental 08 LT Sedan. On I-35W in Minneapolis last night. Less than 8000 miles on the odometer. I was driving under the speed limit as I was trying to figure out where I was going. Oil level and temperature normal.

    Loud explosion that I suspect may have been a thrown rod. I know I've never heard anything like that in almost 50 years of driving with 30+ cars. I've owned three Korean cars: an 88 Festiva, an 01 Elantra, and an 07 Optima. Had good luck with all of them. My wife was looking at buying one last year before we got the Optima. This this will keep me from considering anything with Daewoo roots for many years.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    You didn't specifically say it, but I assume the engine died immediately after the loud noise.

    By the way, I am no supporter of Daewoo in any way, shape or form, but the engine in the Aveo is made by GM (who now owns Daewoo as well), in the Austrailian Holden division, which supplies many GM engines in other cars and also assembles the Pontiac G8GT auto, as an example.

    SO, can't really blame Korea on this one, I'm afraid...
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Knew it had Holden roots but thought it was assembled in a GMDAT plant in Korea. Maybe I should have said it will keep me from buying a Pontiac G8. :P
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Unless they recently changed the engine it has always been a Daewoo engine just like my 1988 Pontiac Lemans (Daewoo).
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    The factory service manual that I bought from Helm when I bought the car had a page with several different engines listed (single OHV, dual OHV as well as different sizes), and the code next to the engine in my 05 translated to a Holden manufactured engine. It possible that I could have mis-read it, but I don't think so, as the 05 Aveo also uses the same oil filter as my 02 Chevy S-10 pickup. I would go back and check the manual again, but I let it go with the car...However, I'll try to verify...if I'm wrong, shame on me!!!

    Either way, that particular engine is not a technological wonder. Still, I have rented cars in my younger days, and lets just say I probably drove them a bit differently that if I had owned them. So, I would be a bit hesitant to translate a mechanical failure in a single rental as the sole determining factor in selecting a car to purchase...as I am sure we would all be hesitant to do...

    The link...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Aveo#Engines

    has info on the Aveo, but isn't clear exactly who makes the engine.

    The info below was found on Wikipedia, but also ins't clear as to where the engine is made, but it does imply Daewoo manufacture...

    D-TEC
    D-TEC was an older variant of Family 1 SOHC engine licensed by Daewoo Motors for their range of Opel-derived cars such as Daewoo Espero and Daewoo Nexia. These engines are built exclusively at Bupyeong engine plant. They feature valvetrain driven by toothed belt, in a DOHC configuration for most versions, and aluminum cylinder head.

    1.3 L SOHC - Daewoo Lanos
    1.5 L SOHC - Daewoo Lanos, Daewoo Nexia
    1.6 L SOHC - Daewoo Nexia
    1.6 L DOHC - Daewoo Nexia, Daewoo Espero, Daewoo Lanos

    [edit] E-TEC II
    Updated version of D-TEC. Most models feature Euro III-compliancy, and 1.4 L and 1.6 L DOHC versions employ variable intake geometry.

    1.4 L SOHC - European Chevrolet Kalos/Chevrolet Aveo
    1.5 L SOHC, Euro II - Asian, Middle Eastern and South African versions Chevrolet Lacetti, Chevrolet Nubira and Chevrolet Aveo, CKD kits of Aveo assembled by ZAZ
    1.4 L DOHC - European Chevrolet Kalos/Chevrolet Aveo, Chevrolet Lacetti and Chevrolet Nubira
    1.6 L - L91/LXT, 103 hp (77 kW) and 107 ft·lbf (145 N·m) of torque, U.S. version of Chevrolet Aveo; European Chevrolet Lacetti and Chevrolet Nubira
    Higher-displacement versions of D-TEC and E-TEC II are indeed Family II engines built by Holden.

    D-TEC/E-TEC II
    Holden makes various Family II engines for GM India and GM Daewoo at its Melbourne plant. Variations include displacements from 1.6 L. to 2.4 L. Unlike the Ecotec engines, the block is made of iron.

    [edit] L34
    This is the 2.0L (1998cc) variant of the engines, featuring 86 mm bore and 86 mm stroke. Power is 119 hp (89 kW) @ 5400 rpm and torque is 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m).

    The engine has been used on following vehicles:

    Chevrolet Optra
    Chevrolet Evanda
    Suzuki Reno
    Suzuki Forenza

    [edit] Other models
    1.6 L - Daewoo Kalos, Daewoo Gentra, Chevrolet Aveo
    1.8 L - Chevrolet Lacetti, Chevrolet Nubira, Chevrolet Rezzo
    C24SE, *2.4 L SOHC - Isuzu Rodeo
    2.4 L DOHC - Chevrolet Captiva, Opel Antara

    So, beats me who makes them!
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    I had no idea the engine was that closely related to the Ecotec, a mill that gets slammed regularly for roughness but that I've enjoyed, at least in a rental car. Funny how the Aveo gets the same or less mileage as an Ecotec in a Cobalt considering the similar design. It does look like it's probably made in Melbourne.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    Melbourne made or Korean made, the engine appears to definitely be a GM design, licensed in earlier years to Daewoo.
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    I, too, was surprised at how close the mpg ratings are between the Aveo and Cobalt.
    Aveo - 1.6L - 24/34
    Cobalt - 2.2L - 24/33
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Because of its higher output of the Cobalt Ecotec's, if this engine was put in an Aveo it would likely get even better mileage in such a light car. Less effort to accelerate and cruise generally means better mileage.
  • I do agree, I know how I am with rentals. I drive the hell out of them, literally. Most likely the case is that the idiot who rented it before you didn't like that it wasn't as powerful as the Mustang Convertible he or she couldn't afford to rent and kept it to the floor most of the time..
  • Interesting that you say there's a service bulletin advising of misfire for aveo 2007? I do not know if it and i have a 2007 aveo sedan. bad gas likely caused the misfire and it's a shame you are blaming GM for it. What type of gas did you put in the car? is it certified gas for use? In Canada gas has to bear a seal on it to be used on most cars and qualify for warranty repairs. If you put cheap gas in, it could void your warranty policy and any claims. Also you should be replacing your spark plugs every 50,000km if not sooner. So at 41,000 miles your plugs certainly need checking if not replacing regardless of them being platinum or not. Really people need to look after their cars. I see people who never change the oil etc. It's disgusting.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    Also you should be replacing your spark plugs every 50,000km if not sooner. So at 41,000 miles your plugs certainly need checking if not replacing regardless of them being platinum or not

    The service manual states the period is 60K KM for plug replacement (Volume 1, page 0-21).
  • jmysteryjmystery Posts: 3
    I just got rid of my aveo, it was an 06 and I bought it new. I have had nothing but problems with it. I was warned that it was a POS. It has been in the shop for front end noise 4 times, I complained to GM and they could not fix it so gave me a 5 year 100k mile extend on the front end and the air condtioning. The air keeps giving off a wet sock smell when you use it. They kept dumping cleaning solution down the drain of the condencer pan and it would smell like cleaning solution and bubble gum for a week then dirty socks again. The noise in the front end is a squeek when you go over a bump at slow speed. Then just after war. ran out the key celinoid would not disengage and let the key out, also the celinoid that disengaged the block in the shifter lever did not work at the same time. I found several threads on line that seems to indicate that this is not a rare problem. I took the consoul apart and found that if I jumped the wires leading to the switch in the shifer it would relese the key pin, then I took a zip tie and tied back the block on the shifter lever. I then took the POS to the Toyota dealer and took it up the tail pipe and got 5500 trade in.
    I bought a 09 Corolla. The car is much tighter than the aveo and much less road noise. I would not recomend this daewoo to any one. The MPG was good but after buying a GPS system the speedo. was off by 5 MPH, this would show much better MPG than it was really getting.
    I just got back from Myrtle Beach, it got 39 mpg there and back, not to bad but it was more like 36 mpg.
    This car is cheap but when you factor in all the problems and how cheap it really is I would recomend a Toyota over theis POS any day of the week and twice on sunday.
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