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Subaru Legacy GT- Is a turbo coming soon?

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  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,472
    The only thing I can say is that the manual seat in my '96 OBW had more aft travel (don't know about fore) than the power seat in my '03 OBW. :(

    To be fair, the comparison is between different generations. However, IIRC, the '03 L-SE manual seat had more aft travel than the '03 OBW power seat.

    DaveM
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,472
    The '04 35th Anniv. (formerly know as L-SE) now has a power seat.

    The L & L-SE manual seat has only fore/aft and backrest recliner adjustments. There are no lumbar or seat cushion adjustments.

    DaveM
  • PPower
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: south of the border
    Posts: 25 Since I got the post reply e-mail, thought I'd mention more about that race now that I've heard more. Keep in mind that the JDM has 30 extra ponies, but we don't know how the torque curves will compare. This is from the latest Best Motoring series in a wagon showdown. The race was 3 laps at Tsukuba circuit in Japan which is a fairly tight course, so it is going to favor balance and handling more than brute acceleration. They raced the Spec B manual and automatic against the Toyota Caldina and the RS6 Avant. After 3 laps, the order was

    Legacy MT
    RS6
    Legacy AT
    Caldina

    The Legacy won all three laps. It seems that the problems for the RS6 was the extreme extra weight it is carrying which led to brake fade and higher tire wear. I still have a hard time believing that the Legacy was able to not get passed in any straights, so they must be pretty short. The tests saying 5.7 second 0-60 on the Legacy I think are quite gentle runs. Kill the clutch runs to get top runs have been good for 5.2-3 seconds. With Spec B gearing, the Legacy should be only a tad slower than the STi Impreza due to the conservative output number on the STi. I'm sure the video will be on Kazaa soon or in stores to buy. Should be interesting to check out.

    STi ECU tuning update (basically the same engine) - Vishnu Tuning has now tested the car with 96-97 race gas mixure and is close to 400hp and 30 ft-lbs. more than a 993 Turbo! It lights up all 4 tires just rolling on the gas, and this is just with turbo back exhaust and ECU tuning.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    RS5 is heavy, plus automatic only. Still, it's more of a Q-ship than a super-sedan.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Posts: 2,565
    I LOVE alcantara - have seen it used in UK-spec Forester S turbos as well as those Audis and the WRX STi. I hate to say it but I could even see myself buying a non-premium Forester XT and going for aftermarket alcantara upholstery.

    I also like a dark gunmetal gray metallic, maybe with a touch of blue.

    Ed
  • Everyone check out the spy shots!

    http://www.tunerxtreme.com/spy_photos.htm

    A few things I like/don't like.

    It appears we get the EDM bumper and not JDM bumper. I like the JDM bumper more.

    The OB gets the good JDM turn signals wheras the Legacy's get the flashy orange turn signals.

    The fog lamp housings aren't color matched like I'd rather have. That's open for debate if it's tape or not so far.

    We're at least starting to get a glimpse.
  • If Subaru is gonna look like a European car then act like a European car. Can someone bring the "2005 Subaru Legacy and Outback" forum back? It had 11 pages of Messages, can't go wrong with that. These new forums are like dead and all I read in these new forums is, don't want this don't want that(complains).

    Now some good news: more HP
    from Sept. 2003 Popular Mechanics mag. pg. 75
    "The [non-permissible content removed] version comes with either a normally aspirated or turbo charged 2.0-liter flat four. Our car will have the bigger 2.5-liter four. A turbocharged model will follow by about six months and, if you want the extra go, it should be worth the wait: The turbo will pack nearly 280hp. Our sources within Surbaru tell us that a higher-performance Sti model with twin turbos and 350 hp will come a year later."
  • Until I hear something more solid, I'll wait on the actual details. I just want them to get here so I can replace my MY97 GT.

    I know they're clearing inventories of 04's, but, waiting, waiting, waiting.......
  • epp1epp1 Posts: 48
    ...but check this out:

    http://subaru.com.au/explore/liberty/exterior.asp?item=23246

    Ain't no way I'm dropping $60K on a S6 Avant when this is coming down the pike (in some variation).

    -Sean
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Atlantic Blue Pearl for me, please. Turbo. Moonroof. Definitely wagon bodystyle.

    :-)

    -juice
  • wrxsoon1wrxsoon1 Posts: 158
    juice - I'll take one of those too! And throw in the Macintosh audio while you're at it. ;-)

    -Ian
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's perfect, color and bodystyle, it's even pre-tinted. Where do I sign?

    -juice
  • epp1epp1 Posts: 48
    ...said first cars are expected to be delivered early 2Q04. I can have the first if I want - no clarity yet on 6MT or 5AT availability. Also, gotta have roof rails for the bikes.

    It will be sad to see my trusty 02 WRX wagon go, but she's served me well. Just want a little more room. Interested to see if the paddle shifters make it to the US markets on a 5AT. As much as I love my manual, sometimes I yearn for an AT, especially in stop and go...or when I'm trying to drink coffee, talk on my phone, wave the birdie at people, etc.

    --Sean
  • from the photos and info posted on the global and Oz sites, it looks like the new Legacy has the channels and anchors in place for the roof racks, but just not the racks. the new Outback appears to just stick the racks on the existing channels. Thus, I'm assuming you can get racks and crossbars as an option on the Legacy, which I definitely need. I cant wait for the GT to get here so I can do meaningful comparison test drive between the Legacy GT,Legacy 3.0, the OB 3.0 and the Forester XT. The reports on the new sport shift auto in the new Legacy/OB and the auto in the XT have been so impressive, I am losing my fervor for a manual.

    Mark
  • yugoboyyugoboy Posts: 161
    what a beautiful wagon it is, absolutely amazing, i wouldve gone for a mazda 6 wagon(but they are no where to be found), or a saab 95(way to pricey) so i guess i will settle for the beautiful subaru legacy wagon(make mine a turbo with 275hp and about 247 torque, and a 6sp, and let's not forget really good cup holders)
  • epp1epp1 Posts: 48
    Spent some QT at the dealer having routine stuff done to the Rex. Got some "first look" data from Nippon on the '05 Legacy GT - look for about 250hp/250ft# and a Steptronic-like AT - no paddle shifters from what I saw.

    S/B <$30K. Left a check at the dealer to hold the first one. Silver w/ OE roof rails for Yak racks if available. Still targeting 5/04 availability.

    Sean
  • First, hello to all I'm the new guy on the block. Second my dealer is telling, As of 12-22-03, that the new legacy that is coming stateside is the spitting image of the car that was at the 03 Frankfurt Auto Show. Specs will be 250-260hp and 240-245 on torque. Our dealer in Minnesota is expecting the first one in around the first week in May 04
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,899
    Welcome to Town Hall, legacy191. If you're a Subaru fan, you'll find lots of company on these boards. Are you going to be in the market for the new Legacy?

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Check out Future Models. The car is available in overseas markets already, so the shape is defined. What is left to determine is the US content levels and pricing, plus the state of tune of all the engines we'll get.

    The US-Spec 2005 Legacy will debut at the Detroit Show in January, I'll be there on the 7th to see it.

    -juice
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,899
    ... and you'll return with photos, lest you be lambasted. :)

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  • bigelmbigelm Posts: 995
    ..otherwise juice no more :p
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You can count on it. I may try to upload some on the 7th, but most likely I'll be focusing on sharing detailed info.

    -juice
  • bigelmbigelm Posts: 995
    ...give us fold down rear seats on the sedan... ;)
  • yes i'm in the market and i've done one better. my car might be delivered by the middle of June.
    05' Legacy GT Wagon. It will replace the 97' GT wagon that was totalled in 99' and replaced with a Ford Explorer.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    No fold down seats on the sedan, at least at NAIAS. :-(

    They'll be ready by June.

    -juice
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    "No fold down seats on the sedan, at least at NAIAS. :-("

    - My sentiments exactly. Though, you do not have fold-down seats in the WRX (for structural reasons), I was hoping with the Legacy GT aiming at the more upscale sedan crowd, it would at least be an option. Oh well.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    All the more reason to get the wagon. 4 times the cargo capacity, roof rack, and struts on the hatch instead of gooseneck hinges.

    -juice
  • kevin111kevin111 Posts: 991
    What can I say? As long as the Legacy had a pass-through (for skiis) I can deal without the folded seats.
  • kenokakenoka Posts: 218
    Two words: shaggin' wagon
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