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BMW 3-Series 2006

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  • rudikamprudikamp Posts: 34
    I thought you were going to Munich ?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,576
    The price does seem a bit high for a car that stickers a little north of 33.6K. He's selling me the car for something like $800 over invoice. I have to check the selling price on Tuesday when he gets in. The .0025 mf (6% interest rate) is what makes the price seem high. My Mom has an '05 530iA that she pays $642/month (only $142/ month more for a $50K+ car) for a 3 year lease w/ 15K per year. The mfs were incredibly low when they leased the car in December.

    There are a few good reasons to wait and a few reasons to buy now, rather than later:

    If I wait (say a year as you propose), the mf will surely be lower and I will have the oppurtunity to purchase the car via ED next July (my wife and I are planning to go to Europe for our vacation anyway). The selling price of the car would be approximately $2100 less (give or take a small price increase around January '06 and for model year '07 if I'm picking it up in July).

    The flipside of waiting are: I rack up 20K miles per year. So figure 5 oil changes not bad about $50 each. I provide my own Castrol 5w30 Syntec and they charge me about $18 to change the oil and filter at the Honda dealer (they also provice loaners :shades: ) Figure at least 2 alignments (maybe more if I can't avoid one of the craters we call pot holes) at $79.99. I'm also going to have to have the timing belt changed (read: MAJOR $ERVICE) when the odometer hits 60K (it could last longer, but when the car has a 7400RPM redline you don't want to chance it. I'm also going to have to put new tires on next spring when I take the snow tires off the car. The Potenza RE92s are showing their age (they were garbage from day one). I can also get a decent amount for my Prelude if I sell it now. I'm sure Some college kid will snap it up before he/she goes back to school. It will only depreciate more within the next year.

    The biggest reason of all is that you never know if you're going to be around next year. I lost a good friend on 9/11 (amazing father of 4 and a wonderful husband), had one of my best friends drop dead of a heart attack at the age of 27 (he was perfectly healthy), and some guy was killed about a half a block from where I work because he refused to buy a bum some cigarettes (stabbed in the neck while pumping gas).

    Thanks for complementing the Prelude :blush: It is pretty awesome :shades:

    Sorry for the long post!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • bmqbmq Posts: 18
    "The selling price of the car would be approximately $2100 less (give or take a small price increase around January '06 and for model year '07 if I'm picking it up in July)."

    Are you saying that the price of E90 will come down next year? or that the 2006 model will be cheaper because the 2007 model will be coming out? Interested in your thought process, since I am in a similar situation. I have a perfectly fine car, and can wait a year or so, but these E90 are soooo pretty...and waiting will be hard.

    Thinking of ED spring/summer of 2006.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    The .0025 mf (6% interest rate) is what makes the price seem high.

    That's the exact reason I'd hold off. MF of 25 is pretty high.

    If I wait (say a year as you propose), the mf will surely be lower and I will have the oppurtunity to purchase the car via ED next July (my wife and I are planning to go to Europe for our vacation anyway). The selling price of the car would be approximately $2100 less (give or take a small price increase around January '06 and for model year '07 if I'm picking it up in July).

    Some college kid will snap it up before he/she goes back to school. It will only depreciate more within the next year.

    At this point, the worst is past you on depreciation (years 1-3). I doubt you'll have any trouble moving your vehicle.

    Thanks for complementing the Prelude It is pretty awesome

    Always had a soft spot for that car. Super fun and not appreciated nearly enough. Regardless, do what makes you happy...I just see $500 for a 325i a month and I feel a little queasy.
  • selmselm Posts: 122
    I agree with you 100%, but who is to say that BMW will have to lower the mf in 10 to 12 months. Per Car_Man on the leasing forum, I believe the Acura TSX has never offered any lease support since it has been out and has always used the standard program. Does anyone remember when BMW gave support on the E46 for the first time?
  • kennynmdkennynmd Posts: 424
    It's the "rings" that are around the headlights.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Bradd, thanks for your post. Now i know im not the only one around here that obsesses :). My vote would be for the ED , then again at $800 over id run not walk to place an order I. n my part of the country people would be happy to even get $800 off. And that has nothing to do with negotiation skills but more so what i belive our friend Mr Shipo refers to as collusion. Best of luck on your decision.

    Plano: did you make the UDE? I wondered if very many E90's showed.

    DL
  • bamaboybamaboy Posts: 5
    So what are the "rings" around the headlights for? Do they have something to do with the adaptive headlights?
  • timnytimny Posts: 142
    Very good, I think. My final price for virtually the same car (different exerior color) was $42,800 (no mats!).
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    When you do a European Delivery [ED] (actually taking delivery of your new BMW in Germany), the purchase price is less expensive. Of course, you need to get over to Germany, and you also need to ship the car overseas, but the vehicle price is lower.
  • planomlplanoml Posts: 244
    dl,

    Went to the Autocross. Had a blast. They had Audi's, G35's, & 330s all lined up. We got to drive them all, hard. Guess which one came out ahead. My friend got a 330 up to around 130. So much for the 30/40 mph theory. They do make you sign your life away.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,643
    It is just decorative... Look at an E39 ('97-'03) 5-series.. They all have them..

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    and you also need to ship the car overseas, but the vehicle price is lower.

    This is something people commonly state but the transport cost is exactly the same as picking your car up at the dealership: $695.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Nice, my Center told me the Sunday event was for beginning teen drivers around a few cones, Grr

    DL
  • tim-

    see if your dealer could throw in the mats for you upon arrival. i have read at other forums that dealers have given free accessories when they came to pick up the car to their clients. i saw that these gifts ranged from polo shirts to key chains to mats

    mike.
  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    I'm taking delivery of my first BMW on Sep 2. Are these free accessories something you work out with the salesperson in advance as part of your deal (in which case I blew it) or are they gifts that a particular dealership may or may not give to its customers (in which case I have no idea what to expect from my dealer)? Mats would be nice.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,643
    Try this:

    "Uh.... there are no floor mats in this car.. What do you mean it doesn't come with mats? (insert number here) $*&#@*&# dollars, and it doesn't even come with floormats? You've got to be kidding!!"

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  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    Probably those dealers that are throwing in the mats are doing so to avoid that very kind of reaction from customers at the time of delivery. Whatever their reason for doing so, I hope that my dealer is among those that throw in the mats for "free" on a 40k+ car.
  • from what i read from other customers the gifts were from the dealer and he had no idea that they were giving him free stuff. i worked the mats in at time of the order.

    id call your salesperson and see if he would throw them in. i mean your shellling out $40,000+ on a car the least they could do is throw in some mats.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,576
    bmg: I'm not saying the price will come down next year at all. The purchase price of the car if you pick it up via European Delivery the way I have it optioned is approximately $2100 less.

    blueguydotcom: My somewhat low optioned 325i isn't sitting on a dealer's lot and will have to be ordered. My salesman told me to expect it to come in early October. Maybe the mf will drop by then. This guy doesn't mess with me :P and will give me the lower mf. I called him the day before we were supposed to take delivery of my Mom's 530iA and "reminded" him that the mf dropped from the time we ordered the car. You also got a super cheap lease deal on your ZHP when you put down the MSD. What would your lease payment be if you didn't put down the MSD? Just curious.

    dl7265: You're not the only one. We're just the only 2 who admit it :surprise:

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    You also got a super cheap lease deal on your ZHP when you put down the MSD. What would your lease payment be if you didn't put down the MSD?

    The MF was originally 0.0013. I bought it down to 0.0003. So it would have been $557 a month instead of the 485 a month I pay.

    Turn in my ZHP May of 06 and get my MSDs back....sort of a downpayment on my next car. :)
  • paulepaule Posts: 382
    i mean your shellling out $40,000+ on a car the least they could do is throw in some mats.
    You would think..........
    Doesn't always work that way unfortunately. Some times you run in to a dealer who is "doing you a favor" by selling you a car..............
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,576
    practicality prevails. I'm going to hold off until next year and try and do ED next summer. $500 is quite a payment to stomach for a $33,690 car. I've nevr been one to stretch my budget too thin either. Who knows what will be out in a year...2 series? Z4 Coupe?

    Anyway, thank you all for listening, for your suggestions, and advice.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    Thanks for your info and suggestion. I was clueless about the no mats issue at the time of the order. The salesperson probably should have said something one way or the other - either tell me that they're throwing them in or ask me if I want to add them to my order.
  • I picked up my 325i a couple of weeks ago and received a choice of one of about 50 coffee table books and a $25. gift certificate to be spent in their accessories department. Did choose a keychain but there were hats, shirts and other accessories as well.
  • mcmuneymcmuney Posts: 64
    I'm looking to lease a 2006 330i for 36 months w/ 15K miles per year. What MF should I expect? One dealer is offering .0029, which seems very high. Any thoughts?
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,115
    Multiple Security Deposits. By placing the extra deposits you are loaning BMWFS your money for the term of the lease. In exchange, they lower the money factor. You will get the deposits back at the end, unless you trash the car...
  • davidd3davidd3 Posts: 582
    The current base MF is .0025. I just got it the other day from the famous Car_Man, Lord of the Leasing Forum.

    So that dealer is marking it up by .0004. You could negotiate for the base MF.
  • inqinq Posts: 10
    thanks. i'll take my phone back fist before contacting the dealer. You may have saved me a lot of time. By the way, how's iDrive; I passed on it only because I couldn't wait for delivery and took the first 330i that was delivered to the dealer "as is".
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