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BMW 3-Series 2006

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  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Yours seem more sensitive than mine. The only daylight effect I would get is if I pull into my garage.. ..

    DL
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,153
    Mine will come on and stay on if you drive through a few shadows on an otherwise bright day, but if it's overcast and pouring rain, with the sun nowhere to be seen, I have to turn them on manually.
  • First off, I appreciate all the great and useful information you provide and discuss in this forum. With that said, I have a question. I have an automatic '06 330i with 12,000 miles and I was wondering about the transmission. I notice that the first two gear shifts come really quickly after one another from zero/rest and that those shifts sometimes feel a little "harder" than I would expect they should be on a car of this caliber. It seems like if I accelerate fairly quickly from zero/stop, it shifts really smoothly, but if I'm just sort of putting along from stop those first two shift are a bit stiff. I do have the sport suspension and most every available option, so i'm wondering if the relatively rougher ride is because of this. I had always noticed the first two shifts happen really quickly and maybe this is just how it is. This is my first bmw so I really have nothing to compare it to. Anybody else feel like this or had this experience? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

    Jaron
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Amen to that. And now I'll convince Shipo that it's a manual. :P How ? at a stop light I let off the brake and began to roll backwards... :surprise:

    DL
  • gordonwdgordonwd Posts: 337
    I've heard that the auto in the upcoming 335 coupe will have a lot of new technical features. It might even be a 7-speed, but I'm not sure. The main thing is that it shifts very quickly (<100ms) and can detect not only the throttle position, but how hard and fast you're pressing it down. In one example, they said if you're cruising along at 50mph in top gear (which is very economical) and really mash the throttle fast, it will immediately shift right into 2nd gear! A less quick throttle movement will downshift you, but not to as low of a gear.

    Overall, they seem to be narrowing the performance gap between SMG and torque-converter automatics.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Call me an old stick in the mud. Call me a throw-back. Call me a moose's hind quarters. I don't care, I want to stir my own and use a clutch doing it. As such, Automatic transmissions of any kind (Slush Boxes, DSGs, SMGs and even hyper fast hydraulic boxes) need not apply. ;-)

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, until the automotive transmission is neurally wired into my brain so that it can know what I'm about to do and shift accordingly, then I won't even consider an Automatic. Even then I probably won't want one simply because it won't be as fun. :P

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • JingleJillJingleJill Posts: 120
    I couldn't agree more!!!

    I'm actually selling my 525i (AUTO) becuase it isn't a manual. I should have never listened to my husband. Not when it comes to cars.

    So, I went back to a 330ci with the performance package...6-spd MANUAL ALL THE WAY!!!

    Stacy
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hey Stacy, long time since we've heard from you. Where are you hailing from these days? ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • dhamiltondhamilton Posts: 873
    So nice to here from a female that understands the nirvana that is 3 pedals :blush:
  • JingleJillJingleJill Posts: 120
    Oh, I've never left. I just "read"...

    Still in Texas. Now on 4th BMW.

    Had the 330i, went to a 325ci, then the 525I (still have, but hopefully it will find a loving home), and now a 330ci.

    NEVER NEVER an AUTOMATIC...NEVER!!!

    Stacy
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    Just wondering, is there anyone here that knows how to drive manual, but prefers automatic or SMG?? If so, please explain why.

    Is it truly a unanimous consensus that manual is more fun to drive? Or are we simply hearing from those who speak the loudest for whatever reason.

    Joseph
    in San Diego
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    are fun to drive except in the heaviest of LA traffic. :)

    My wife's car is an auto, but does have a sport mode and a manual mode, but it isn't the same. When I want to row my own, I have a car for that. :)

    -Paul
  • gordonwdgordonwd Posts: 337
    This topic has probably been beat to death, but eventually we might only be able to defend driving manuals strictly because it's a "personal preference" or because we're stubborn, and won't be able to justify it on the basis of better economy, better performance, or other rationalizations. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the other transmission technologies are almost sure to catch up some day.

    Take the issue of number of gears. IMO, 6 speeds is the limit for a gated shift lever. I mean, how would you ever hit the right gear in a shift pattern for 7 or 8 speeds? But more gears can be a big benefit for combining performance and economy. I often wish there were one more gear for me to shift into on the highway in my 325i (yes, I only have a 5-spd, but you get my point). Shoot, my bicycle has 24 speeds to choose from. ;)
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    I wouldn't mind a 7 or 8 speed manual. I feel like a need a taller 6th gear so a tall 7th would be fine. I want the car at 2k rpm at 80-85 mph.

    Also, manuals are cheap to maintain. A rebuilt automatic tranny = $$$$$. A new clutch is less than a grand and that's at like 120-150k miles. A new or rebuilt auto is at 100-120k miles and I know some bimmer people who paid 4-5k on their e39s and e46s. I can only guess what a 6 speed automatic will cost?!
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    This topic has probably been beat to death, but eventually we might only be able to defend driving manuals strictly because it's a "personal preference"...

    I don't know that that is much of a problem, afterall, Automatics have sold extremely well for decades due to "personal preference". ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • dhamiltondhamilton Posts: 873
    Dude, just get an automatic. It seems like that's what your more comfortable with so to each his own. If you don't think your missing out on anything then your probably not. I think for most of us manual freeks we grew up with it, and raced on the street with it [not that that's a good thing to do] and we feel a connection with the car because of it. It's an extra step required in the function of the car that the car can't do on it's own [when equipped with the proper third pedal] Plus you can control the amount of rev's at all times.
    You will find a lot of people who can drive both but prefer an automatic. You will probably find less of the opposite. Don't let anyone tell you what you like to drive. Figure it out for yourself then suffer the consequences if you end up with the automatic :P
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,153
    A car with an automatic can still be fun to drive. Having a manual does not, by definition, make a car fun to drive. I learned to drive a stick on a GMC Sonoma with the 2.2-liter Cavalier engine in it, and I can assure you, that car was not fun to drive.

    I think that, 90% of the time, I'd be just as content driving a car with an automatic. And there are definitely occasions when I hate driving a manual. But there are also times when the manual is much better. And, although the fuel economy may be too close to judge, a manual E90 is measurably faster. Buy and drive what you like!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I'm one of those people who doesn't mind driving a stick in traffic. I just don't see why it's hard. In an automatic you're always working the brake in traffic. Is working a clutch any harder? I think driving a stick is fun(except perhaps in a truck with a 2.2L cav engine :) ) and the fact that it saves money, fuel, and adds to performance are just bonuses. I think i'd prefer an auto 1% of the time, such as when i'm parallel parking on a hill.

    If i had to accept an auto, i guess i could, but i'd have to have a heck of a good reason, such as someone donating a 911 turbo tiptronic to me.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    I'm one of those people who doesn't mind driving a stick in traffic. I just don't see why it's hard. In an automatic you're always working the brake in traffic. Is working a clutch any harder?

    Amen. I've always driven manuals and in traffic I actually become annoyed in automatic rentals (work trips for instance). I like having a clutch...even in stop n go.

    I think i'd prefer an auto 1% of the time, such as when i'm parallel parking on a hill.

    e90 solves that with the new clutch braking stuff. It's a little weird for the car not to roll on hills.

    If i had to accept an auto, i guess i could, but i'd have to have a heck of a good reason, such as someone donating a 911 turbo tiptronic to me.

    I'd feel like I was dating Jessica Alba wearing a chain mail suit in that instance. We saw a gorgeous 997 Cab in OB on Saturday. I got up close and surveyed the interior. Two things screamed at me at one time - an automatic and a tony robbins book. Egad!
  • rwollerrwoller Posts: 3
    I'm being told by my dealer that the upgrade for daylight running lights and key remote memory settings will not be available -- that there was no September update, nor is it likely that there will be one. He this true or is the dealer out of the loop.
  • 03accordman03accordman Posts: 671
    Latest Autoweek has the new 3 coupe; article mentions a 328 version with 230hp/200lb torque. Does this mean that for 2007 the sedan versions will also be 328 (basically dropping the 325)? I am finalizing a 325i sedan; would hate to buy now and realize after a couple of months that I oculd have got a more powerful car for the same price. Does anyone have any info on the 2007s?
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    The similarity in our tastes continue. ;)

    dave
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,541
    "Does this mean that for 2007 the sedan versions will also be 328 (basically dropping the 325)? "

    I have seen nothing official from BMW regarding the 3 Series Sedans for 2007. What they have said officially (talking about the new Coupe) is mostly here:

    http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/futurevehicles/new3coupe

    Speculation seems rampant. My ** GUESS ** is that (for several reasons) the Sedans will offer the same drivelines for MY 2007.

    If this proves true, a 335 Sedan (ED next Spring) will be on my 'Short List'.
    - Ray
    Always looking for a "excuse" to visit Europe - and save a few $$s on a cool car . . .
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Most are saying 328/335 sedans will occur at lastest in 2008. A guy on bimmerfest swears he has production dates in 06 for the 07 328/335 sedans.

    Some coupe lovers insist the bmw will have 4 different drivetrains for the 3. Doesn't seem likely.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,153
    If memory serves, DRL and auto locking doors should be available with a software update, car and key personalization will not.
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    All depends on the car. On the Acura TL I recently got out of, I had to consciously think about shifting properly, even after 18 months' ownwership. The clutch was like an on-off switch, and it was hard to match revs to shift smoothly. The 325i is intuitive; within a few days shifting became more or less a fluid and unconscious process, except when the car is coming up to operating temperature. Again, with cars, numbers don't tell the whole story.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a 328i sedan very soon, unless BMW wants to maintain a distinction between the sedan and the coupe. The normally aspirated engine can clearly be tuned for different outputs without much hassle. I read, though, that the 335i loses the magnesium/aluminum block and moves to straight aluminum. I wonder how the F/R weight distribution/handling balance, so sweet on the 325i, will be affected by the block and accessory change. The 328i may end up being the better car. All the above could benefit from losing two or three hundred pounds.
  • yankees338yankees338 Posts: 28
    Anyone have any info/pics regarding the next generation 3-series convertible? Will it be a soft or hard-top? Due to the increase in use of the hardtop among competition, it'd make sense to go with a hardtop, especially from a consumer point of view. ;)
  • kandgkandg Posts: 53
    Simply search around on google. I believe Autow**k and some of the other car mags are reposting Autobild pics of the Cabrio being tested which is a hardtop ala Merc SLK/SL cabrios, peugeots etc. Don't buy it for luggage space!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Autoweek? Why would you mask that?

    In any case, if something is unacceptable, it's also unacceptable masked. :P

    But there's no reason to be shy about mentioning Autoweek!
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