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Jeep Liberty Diesel

libertycatlibertycat Posts: 593
I'm not due to the smell and noise of diesel.
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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    I really think you should take this over to the Jeep Liberty forum. Thanks!

    tidester, host
  • jlp8885jlp8885 Posts: 13
    today's diesels- common rail or even the old versions (vw's tdi) are still exponentially better than 70's and 80's diesels
    because of the liberty's high weight, it won't get the 50mpg of the american jettas and golf tdis or even the 100+ mpg of the european vw polo or toyota yaris (close to the american echo) but it will be much better than the 15mpg the liberty currently gets
    if the liberty could get 30-35mpg, I would be very interested as that takes the gas mileage penatly of buying an suv out
  • I suspect it may get the Benz E300D power-plant which is a great engine.
    The Cummins engine used in the RAM trucks would literaly break the Liberty under its weight!
    Are there other options?
    In Englands the Dodge Caravan comes with a turbo-diesel.....
    Did you see the VW Touareg (The Porsche CAyenne's "seperated at birth" twin) will have a 2.5 liter turbo-diesel in addition to the big 5 liter V-10 TDI in Europe.
    That's the ultimate SUV, but pricing is halfway to the Porsche from the Liberty price.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,694
    It may be the co-op in Volga. That is where he lives. He is always bragging how much less he pays for diesel than I do in CA. It would be good to see if he is making up stories. I wonder what the advantage would be to mixing only 2% biodiesel. Seems like extra work for little gain. In your case it is a loss. We only have one station in San Diego that sells B20 and it is a long drive. I am afraid to void the warranty. We have the best diesel available right around the corner. I have only used BP ECD-1 since it was new. All diesel will be to that standard next year hopefully.
  • docralphodocralpho Posts: 50
    I'd like to see this forum continue as this engine option is rather unique and the topic gets lost in the Liberty forum. I have seen 2 engine options which may come-- a 2.5 liter and a 2.8 liter engine, one built by Mercedes and another by, I believe, an Italian firm. The Europeans and Aussies apparently already have the diesel versions--in fact they may be being built in Toledo. I have heard about 20 miles per gallon in city driving. The newer diesels are much better as to emissions. The Euro diesel gas has much less sulfur in it due to better refining techniques used. Thus the odor is further reduced. The diesels have very large torque, less hoesepower; they may be turbo charged. I hope persons with further knowledge will post here on this topic. The diesels may hit the USA for the 2004 model year.
  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    Right now I am looking at an Element but a diesel Liberty would draw my attention.
  • jimlockeyjimlockey Posts: 265
    According to Dieter Zetsche of Daimler Chrysler.
    The Liberty will get a 2.8L common rail turbodiesel produced by Daimler Chrysler AG's VM Motori subsidiary in Italy. It will be a newer version than the 2.5l diesel now used in the Liberty's European model, called the Cherokee. Zetsche says the diesel Liberty will be 30% more fuel-efficient. A manual or automatic transmission will be available and the SUV will be offered in both 2 and 4 wheel drive, but I'm not sure which version of automatic transmission will be used?
  • diegob1diegob1 Posts: 10
    greetings, as I have a Diesel Liberty 4x4 I thought I would write in... I have a 2.5 diesel 5 spd manual. The Turbo lag is enormous, but otherwise it's a fine car. I get 11,5 lt/100km (town only) and 9,2 lt/100km (highway @ 120km/hr) at an average speed of 80Km/hr I got 8,8 lt/100km.
    There is also a 2.8 - 5 speed automatic available.
    Both engines are identical & have intercooled turbo's. They are manufactured in Italy (Cento) by VM. This company is owned by Detroit Diesel, henceforth their appereance in Jeeps. The engines are very advanced with common rail injection & have a high torque (343Nm & 360Nm ). They are robost & require services every 20 000 Km.
    I hope this helps...
  • jimlockeyjimlockey Posts: 265
    Thanks Diego every little bit helps. I don't know what the US Jeep dealers will require yet. Actually they don't know themselves as they don't have anything on the 2.8 diesel that we will be getting this summer.
  • hhhhhmmm...
    Using my Macverter... that comes out to about 20 to 27 miles per gallon.
    I guess that's better than the 15 to 20mpg they get now!
    The guy at the car show said September.
  • deuskiddeuskid Posts: 20
    I am strongly considering the Jetta TDI but am also considering the Liberty [gee, I wish there was something between the 2 sizes]. I like the idea of the continous rail technology but am wondering about the rest of the Liberty?

    Is the 'non-engine' parts of the Liberty quality?

    Just which engine [who makes it and where] will be in the 04 diesel Liberty?

    thx
  • renolibertyrenoliberty Posts: 12
    You do know that only about 5000 diesel Liberties are supposed to be available the first year it is offered or at least that was the word some months ago.
  • colorado1974colorado1974 Posts: 177
    DCX has stated that ten thousand will be sold here as test mules to see if America will accept them.
  • renolibertyrenoliberty Posts: 12
    "The Chrysler group on Monday, Nov. 25, said it would proceed with a 5,000-unit run of Liberty diesels after concluding that gasoline-electric hybrid technology is too expensive. There are 3,309 Chrysler-Jeep dealers in the United States and Canada, according to the automaker."
                              -- Autoweek, Dec. 02, 2002

    Not quite two per dealer! Shouldn't be easy to get one. So is there new info on the production run since then?
  • colorado1974colorado1974 Posts: 177
    My dealership contact at Chrysler stated that after receiving enormous positive feedback after the first public announcement, they bumped that figure to 10,000 units. I know I already have 10 people waiting in line ready to put a deposit down.
  • natescapenatescape Posts: 176
    Wait until the end of the year when VW will bring back the Passat TDI (and wagon) with the new 134 HP, 247 lbs of torque TDI!
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,225
    I might consider one. I'm really not a fan of the liberty and would much rather have a diesel in my Cherokee, but life goes on.

    I have no worries about a diesel vehicle. My VW TDI is fantastic and enjoy it much better than any gas economy car. Performance and economy are much better, plus it's rather substantial in weight/feel.

    No doubt an SUV with a diesel will be in demand. Some folks might be scared away by the diesel just because they don't know any better. My Jetta is more quiet on the highway than most gas cars.
  • oceantoadoceantoad Posts: 186
    Is it 2004 or 2005 for the release of the diesel?

    Has there been any word on the towing capability?

    I do want one.

    Still a happy camper.
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