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Poor mileage acceptable to Toyota



  • toyotakentoyotaken Posts: 897
    If you read the smaller print under the large numbers, the EPA gives a range. This is usually 5-7 mpg over and under the large number on the window sticker. Remember, these are machines with literally thousands of different parts and no two will be absolutely identical. Also, no two drivers will drive absolutely identically either. So there is going to be a range for milage. I know people who get in the very low teens for their MPG and know others who get in the low to mid 20's. All Toyota seems to be saying is that it is well within the range of normal for your particular model of truck.

    Sorry I can't help more, but hope it helps.

  • oregonboyoregonboy Posts: 1,653
    I think the tires, weight, gearing, and aero-disadvantages of a 4x4 make a huge difference vs 2wd. I bought a used 4x2 1996 V-6, 5-spd, Tacoma extended cab because I had no plans to go off road and wanted better fuel economy and handling.

    I was hoping to get at least 20 mpg since (unlike Yurian) my 2.4 liter standard-cab Nissan was only getting about 22 mpg. I was astounded to find that I get 25 on the freeway (at 75 or so) and never less than 21 around town. EPA estimates are 19/23. I'm happy.

  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    here but, IMO you guys complaining about mileage on 2003 model trucks need to lighten up a bit. Ever heard of break-in?

    I have never heard of a vehicle getting great mileage straight off the lot. My tacoma 3.4L got pretty dismal mileage for the first 10k miles and then really started to get better. Was I surprised - not at all. Im at 26k miles now on my 2000 model truck and mileage is anywhere from 18 to 23.5 depending on how and where I drive. Good luck.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    What area are you in ? Flat and long Texas or going up and down hills in Colorado ?..Maybe working it too hard.
    My dad has a new 02 Chevy s-10x cab, 4.3 v-6, auto., 4wd loaded out. Will have to ask about his
    mpgs....His 99 s-10 4 cyl., reg cab, auto., 2wd got over 20 plus puttin' around. Read that GEEZER
    at the wheel mpg.!
  • rlafaverrlafaver Posts: 70
    Since 1986 I have bought 10 new cars for my family. I am familiar with the term "break-in". All of these vehicles achieved EPA average before the 500 mile mark. Reps at two Toyota service departments told me that a Tacoma is broken in at 1000 miles and that my mpg is maxed out for current conditions. You say 10K. Who do I believe? My son's 2002 V6 PreRunner was getting within one mpg of my I4 performance at 1000 miles on his truck, so I tend to believe those service departments. I hope you are right and they are wrong.
  • rlafaverrlafaver Posts: 70
    I'm in Lafayette, Louisiana. The only hills are actually bridges. I made a 200 mile test keeping the revs below 2200 during accelleration, and at most times I was able to keep it below 2000. On a 4 cylinder engine this is slow. For that 200 mile test I got 0.8 mpg better than my average, but I was in constant danger of getting plowed over by big SUVs and pickups. I cannot drive that way all the time, but I wanted to find out just how bad this thing is.
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    I didn't know your truck was 'that' new. On my last new truck (Ford), MPG's didn't maximize until around 5k to 7k miles on it..

    The increases will be gradual, and you probably won't even notice the difference from tank to tank. But I bet in 6months the MPG's will be right at the numbers on the sticker.

    Also remember that some trucks will take more or less fuel in the tank depending on the angle the truck is sitting at the pump. This can skew the mpg calculation for a tank, but will be made up on the next tank and average out over time.

    Just have fun with your truck.
  • oldharryoldharry Posts: 413
    Maybe you baby it too much. With automatic transmission, if you are driving like there is a egg between your foot and the pedal, you do not get to the speeds that the trans shifts up soon enough, and you use more fuel. I have a neighbor (older than me) that drives that slow. Everyone else hates to get behind him heading to town, takes him over a half mile to get up to fifty. He gets terrible milage because he is most often not in high gear, and the converter lockup doesn't get used.

  • rlafaverrlafaver Posts: 70
    I think you might be right. But it doesn't matter anymore. This thing saved my life today. In heavy rain on a 25 mile long interstate bridge in south Louisiana this morning an old guy in a new Cadillac came onto the highway up an exit ramp, and when he realized I was going to hit him head-on he turned right across the highway. I had to brake and shoot left fast without losing the tail-end. Just when the rear-end was about to let go the anti-lock brakes kicked in and I shot through a hole about three inches wider than my truck at, by that time, about 50mph. The control was phenomenal. This Tacoma can drink all the gas it wants. Forget this post. I take it all back. Today is my 60th birthday, and this truck gave me a pretty good present. God bless Toyota.
  • ilmorilmor Posts: 8
    More Tacoma has the V6 and automatic, 2WD (Pre-Runner) with 5800 miles on the odo. Current combo city / highway (commute to work) mileage this week was 15.8 mpg. That's with one other person in the vehicle and no other loads, hilly and flat roads (no mountains).

    Manuf. claims 17 / 19 for this vehicle.

    As for the discussions about Nissans, well, they have less horsepower and are slower than the Tacoma's, so there is a tradeoff. I would rather pay a little more for the fuel and have the power and quality of the Toyota, personally.
  • Have an 03 Taco that is at 19.5 mpg. I have just over 2K miles. I noticed a difference in the last 500 miles and I think I actually have been accelerating more since I am over 1K. I have a 5 spd and usually take third gear out pretty far. So I would say my mileage is improving from my first fill up at 16.5 mpg.

    I live in Missouri in the Ozark foothills so the terrain varies more greatly than it would in St. Louis or Illinois.

    I thought the newer automatics were supposed to be better on gas mileage.

  • rlafaverrlafaver Posts: 70
    The city mileage for the auto and manual are the same, 22 mpg. But the highway mileage is better for the manual, 27 mpg opposed to 25 mpg for the auto.
  • abc246abc246 Posts: 305
    God bless Toyota? Funny how you think. Maybe luck had something to do with it. I bet Toyota didn't even design the ABS system that just became standard this year on your truck (GM made it standard on many models in 1992!). How about God bless the old man for turning away?

    Now back to the topic. I bought a new Nissan Frontier in 98 with 5 speed manual and the 2.4 4 cyl. That truck could only manage average 17 mpg with a lot of highway driving. I traded it in for a Chevy Silverado 4x4, auto, with 4.3 V-6 that gets the same mpg and has way more power!

    I think some manufactures sacrifice mpg to meet emission laws if thier engine control technology is not state of the art.
  • rlafaverrlafaver Posts: 70
    Sorry if it disappoints, but I've driven more miles than many truck drivers, and I can tell you that this Tacoma handling in an emergency is fantastic. You had to be there to feel it.
    The mileage thing is, I think, the attempt to burn more fuel with less displacement. Hence, 4 valves per cylinder. But I agree that at this point big block V6s like GMs 4.3 do a better job of converting fuel to power with very favorable differentials. But in 4 cylinder engines, the Toyota has it all over the S10 4 banger in power. Sadly, this is a result of burning more fuel in nearly the same displacement. I think you have to compare the Toy 4 to a GM 6, and in that comparison the GM will win. GM makes excellent engines, and they sell a V6 at a price competitive to the Toy 4 cylinder. On the other hand, I've owned an excellent S10 that I really liked, but its handling pales in comparison to the Toy.
  • I bought a Tacoma Double Cab with the V-6. So far have been getting just over 16 MPG right out of the box. California switched to the alcohol cut gas and this cuts economy a bit more. I drive a combo of stop and go, sit at the drive thru up to 80MPH spurts on the freeway. I figure reducing the drag in the truck bed will help on the freeway runs. If you own one get used to it, it sits high and has to punch a huge hole in the air. It's a truck, want economy get the 4 cyl I guess. My Honda CRV took a while to get its mileage topped out. Buy a K&N air filter, they help out also.
  • Hello, I plan on buying a:
    2003 toyota tacoma
    PreRunner Regular Cab
    4Cyl Automatic

    This vehicle has a posted 19/22 miles per galon rating.

    What should I expect and what are realistic numbers that you may have seen?
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Don't start thinking that you won't get the sticker 4x4 V6 gets it. I always get my 17 in the city and 19 on highway (when I can pace myself, and even if I drive like a maniac, 85-90, I'll get 18). This thread was probably started by an isolated incident.
    I would suggest that you get a manual with the 4-banger. From what I usually hear from other Tacoma people, mating an I4 with an auto tranny is not a great idea. Of course, this would mean that you'd have to get a 4x4, since currently Toyota doesn't offer a manual prerunner. Too bad.
  • What is bad about having a V4 with the auto....
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Auto tranny inheritedly transfers less torque to the wheels. Not much less, but less nevertheless. This is fine for a V6, but with I4, when power is scarce to begin with, it may not be a good thing. Testdrive one and see if it feels good to you. If it feels a little anemic, try a 4x4 Regcab with manual and I4.

    I haven't driven an auto I4, so I can't speak from my own experience, just relaying what I've heard.
  • Do these vhicles have tranny problems
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