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Porsche Boxster and Boxster S

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Okay, no PPI allowed, air bag light on, moisture in car, and price tag at retail.

    Noooooo, I don't think so.

    The 1998 is a plentiful car and is depreciating pretty rapidlly. There is no reason that you have to pay retail, and also no reason you have to settle for less than a sharp car.

    If you really REALLY like this car, I'd insist on a PPI and shoot for a target price of maybe $22K if the car is really sharp and has no major problems at time of sale.

    Actually I wouldn't pay more than $20K for a '98 Boxster myself.

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  • The mileage on the car is okay, but there are too many red flags. I agree with the preceding posters.

    Just fyi, the price on a 98 Boxster ranges from $17000 (poor condition) to $25950 (excellent condition). If y ou like the car so well that you're willing to put up with no end of grief for it, then figure the car at $22000, average condition, and (with no PPI) deduct $5000 for your risk, offering them $17000 (since you have to assume it is in poor condition).

    Myself, I'd run like crazy from this one.

    JW
  • Thanks for all of the information. I want a Boxster bad, but I am willing to wait for the right one.
  • First of all I would like to commend Porsche on the restyling of the 911 and the Boxster. I for one liked the style of the previous 911 after Porsche gave it a different headlight treatment from the one on the Boxster. As for the new Boxster, there was something about it that didn't hit me right. If you look at the rear 3/4 fender view you will see that the line separating the bumper from the body is a diagonal that cuts above the rear tail-light but on the 'old' Boxster, the line is horizontal and basically invisible. I am also not taken with the new design of the side air vents but I accept them as being more efficient though I wouldn't have drawn attention to them with bright grill work. The interior is a definite plus. On the whole, I like the Boxster shape a lot; at least Porsche was smart enough not to screw it up. As for my '03, I would have liked the extra horses but I couldn't be happier with it.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    Porsche's Boxster roadster for 2005 will be, the company claims, the first roadster to offer side head protection airbags. The new system inflates an airbag from the top of the door panel, whereas side curtain impact protection typically drops down from a hardtop car's roofline. The new Boxster, by the way, has a wider track and wider wheels and tires than the first-generation car that launched in the U.S. in 1997. Two engines are being offered, including a 2.7-liter, 240-hp flat six and the 3.2-liter flat six in the Boxster S. At 280 hp, it will launch the new roadster from 0-100 km/h (0-62.5 mph) in 5.5 seconds. The new Boxster will offer optional ceramic brake discs; every Boxster will get six airbags and stability control. The Boxster starts from $43,800 and goes on sale in January.
  • jeb1jeb1 Posts: 1
    I just bought an '01 Boxster.Please give me your most important tips for maintenance and care for my car. Thanks
  • Hello guys:

     

    I am a 19 year old, and a Dallas-based business owner. I own a internet/web based IT firm. I work in a pretty upscale residential/commericial neighborhood and I consider myself to be a business professional.

     

    Down the street from the office builing, we have a Porsche and Mercedes dealership named Park Place Motors. They have been in this area for many years and it is well known to cater to Dallas' upscale automotive clients (the rich...lol).

     

    I am considering buying a Porsche Boxster soon (the new redesigned model) and I was wondering what you all thought about a 19 year young man buying a car of this caliber. The only reason I am asking is because of the possible skeptism when it comes to a test drive. Do you think the dealer will take me seriously when it comes to test driving the car? Or should I go ahead and purchase the Porsche without ever driving it?

     

    Just wanted to hear some advice on this. I am thinking that the dealership will just brush me off and not take me seriously.

     

    Please help me!
  • fantomfantom Posts: 211
    Maintain that '01, according to the manual....change the oil as soon as you get it, then once a year with Mobil One 0W40, and drive it like you stole it ;-)

     

    Park Place should be willing to give you a test drive, especially this time of year. The '05s will not be in till late January, but driving an 04 should be enough to hook you. Maturity, rather than age, will decide if a Porsche is for you.

     

    Good luck to both of you.
  • Actually my test drive/dealership visit wont be until around March, but I consider myself to be very mature...that is, carrying myself in a manner that bespeaks an age much more than 19.
  • chile96chile96 Posts: 330
    First off - avoid Park Place like the plague. Some may have good experiences there but a majority of my PCA friends and myself included have been appalled at some of the stuff they pull there. Boardwalk has been exceptional to deal with if you were to stick within the Dallas area. I have purchased 11 porsches new from dealerships all over the country and just purchased a Cayenne S from Boardwalk Porsche. One of the best experiences.

     

    As far as your age: as long as you look respectable and carry yourself well, it should not be a problem. Park Place you might get ignored.

     

    Before you buy, I'd recommend going to www.ppbb.com and learn all about the car you can before you buy it so you know exactly what you want and exactly what to look/lookout for. Sorry to bag on edmunds.com but that site contains hundreds of boxster enthusiasts who visit the site ebery minute.

     

    good luck!
  • thanks for info. I shall proceed to Boardwalk then....

     

    does boardwalk have a better selection also?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,633
    A phone call to give them a heads up wouldn't be a bad idea.... Just ask for the sales manager, and explain your situation....

     

    Tell them you are interested, but you don't want to get blown off because of your age.. They might want to run a credit check or have you bring in some type of pre-approval for a loan for the car....

     

    You might consider some of this to be unfair... but, you already seem to realize that your situation is unusual...

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,574
    I went to a local auto show on Saturday and was gawking heavily at the new '05 triple black Boxster that was sitting there (locked of course). I totally dig the new design. Really clean and flowing. It was a low option car too, just heated seats, Boxster S wheels and maybe 1 0r 2 more options. The car stickered for under $50K, nice:)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,574
    A Speed Yellow Boxster S smoked the competition (Crossfire SRT6 Convertible, C6 Vette Convertible, & SLK 350) by taking first place in this month's (March 2005) C & D comparo test.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,633
    You know.. I would pick the Boxster also.. but those comparos are just lame..

     

    They'll rate each car on a dozen items and assign a number (1-10) to each rating... add them up.. then at the bottom.. Two categories.. "fun to drive", and "gotta have it" factor.... with 25 points available for each category... So, no matter how the numbers add up before that, whichever one they "like" the best wins..

     

    What do you think? I've seen '01 Boxsters for around $25K.. That would be a nice family car for a guy with a wife and kid, right? Right??

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,574
    definitely:)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    I agree about comparos often being “lame”. Case in point is the R&T comparo of 6-cyl sport sedans in which the 5-series came in 6th out of 7. There is too much subjective input that skews performance realities.

     

    That said, the Boxster S has always come out smelling like roses in the press. The only knock against it is price and sometimes materials and amenities. Even, then many reviewers justify cost by way of its excellence. One reviewer after killing it on materials went on to say that you can just feel the money in the performance hardware. And two descriptions that always seem to follow it around are—brilliant—the thoroughbred of the bunch.

     

    When you consider cabin and cargo capacity in addition to its balanced torque/power curves, grip, steering, maneuverability, mid-engine balance and stunning appearance—it is a very special roadster with magnificent overall design. Cases are always made for other roadsters and certainly they are noteworthy based on certain isolated aspects. But when you add up the complete package, this Boxster S one tough cookie to beat. So is the non-S in my opinion.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,633
    I agree completely... I'd pick the Boxster also... I have no qualms with their choice... just how they try to make it look like it is based on objective parameters..

     

    Everyone knows that choosing a car isn't an objective task.. Just tell us what you like, and quit adding up goofy scores..

     

    For my (hypothetical) fifty grand.. I'd take a non-S Boxster over the others, as well.. I'll take steering feel and balance over horsepower any day..

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,574
    Balance & Handling are way more important to me than acceleration numbers. Give me the Boxster (base model) over any roadster in it's "price" class.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • hmk123hmk123 Posts: 122
    Hi there,

     

    sorry if something like this has been asked before... We have a 1999 Boxster and the rear window is a bit messed up. Do you have to replace the whole top or can someone just install a new window? We are in the SF Bay Area. Do certain places specialize in such repairs? Any hints and tips would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    I think the Boxster is the same as the C2 in the rear window replacement, which is a dealer-only kit that glues in a new window.

     

    If the dealer can't do it, call Franzini's in Terra Linda (Marin county) and they might be able to help you.

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  • Had a 2000 base Boxster for 3 years. Chose not to buy it at lease end. One of my dumber mistakes. Car was in the dealership 3 times in 3 years--3 oil changes, 15k check-up, and a recall for the gas cap. New Boxster seems to improve on the old one in just about every way. If business picks up just a bit more this year my toughest decision will be the base vs. the S.

     

    As Porsche's ads have been saying for years: "Porsche, there is no substitute."
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    The only "problem" with the S is the price; otherwise it is just about (IMHO) the best sports car you can buy under $75,000.

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  • nils1nils1 Posts: 1
    I am looking to buy a new 2005 Boxter, with only a few options. MSRP is $50,500. How much can I expect to be able to negotiate this time of year? Also, I have a 2004 Infinity FX35 to trade in here is Scottsdale. How is the trade-in experience generally at Porsche dealers. Do they usually offer "fair" value?
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Funny how an additional $7K is considered only "a few options" on a Porsche. I've read that Boxster sales are up a whopping 80% in January as compared to the same month last year, and the new model only became available on Jan. 15th. It seems people were waiting on this one so it does not bode well for bargains. I can't be positive about this so I encourage you to do your research.

     

    I think the January launch worked to Porsche's favor. They get to overcome the winter doldrums and back it up with spring roadster demand.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    The Boxster S in the R&T comparo was loaded with $14K in options bringing the price up to $67K. But in my opinion you now get everything you need at the base price—even cruise control (which I never use), on-board computer and PSM. I think if I wanted the regular Boxster, the only thing I would consider upgrading is the wheels.

     

    The only problem with getting a base vehicle is trying to find one in stock—they're non-existent—which means ordering one is not going to lend itself to bargains. HOWEVER, if dealers are getting close to retail now, it could make sense to go this route.

     

    If a roadster is being used as a daily driver I could see throwing on the options, but most of them are weekend drivers—top down, doing the twist, wind in hair, listening to the engine. IMO they're toys, your own personal amusement-park go-cart. As a music lover I find that I really can't concentrate on music in this ride. I don't care how good the sound system is, you'd be hard-pressed to get into the finer qualities of music in a roadster, not that I'd even want to. News and occasional driving rock rhythms from the base sound system is all I want. Full leather? Go ahead, donate to Porsche. Nav? That's for people who never paid attention in the Boy Scouts ;-) I'd want no part of PASM, and if you really have a soft spot for the German economy, get the ceramic brakes.

     

    You really do get what you need at the base price of $43.8K and $53.1K. Even though we love these cars, just remember, no one extorts like Porsche and if you need your options then you just have to pay the piper. Actually, I think they did a pretty decent job of not grabbing any of our vital organs with the base offerings this time around, and I think it behooves us not to have gotta-add-on syndrome if price is a major concern.
  • I purchased such a porsche 05 boxter base (basalt metallic black), and I am REALLY enjoying the experience. Purchased for my 40th b-day gift to myself. Yes, heated seats, Boxter S wheels, upgraded stereo (not the bose), and the wind deflector. Purchased just north of 48K. Didn't get the Xenons though, they weren't on this model. I'd like to get some Blue / White H7 bulbs; however, does anyone have any good suggestions? I don't want to buy anything that will LOOK cheap. This will be a holdover until the dealer installed XENON upgrade becomes available.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 854
    ..a nice looking coupe recently. Would that be a two seater? Still with the two trunks - - fore and aft (as we say in the Navy)? Think the price would come in less than the roadster?

     

    I haven't had the Porsche nameplate since the 914 (and a cop - stopped me for weaving - referred to it as a Volkswagen). This sans Porsche ambiance might change with coupe availability..........ez
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    All we've seen are spyshots and word from Porsche that it will preview at European auto shows in the fall. I don't think there is any official word on engine configuration and price but there is rumor that it will have power somewhere between the Boxster S and Carrera. Spyshots seem to indicate it will have a hatch yielding perhaps a little more cargo room than the roadster.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Coupes as a rule are much more popular in Europe while we seem to prefer the drop top/retractable hardtop versions. I think it has to do with driving styles (we drive slower) and climate (generally more benign in our Sun Belt states where many sports cars live).

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