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Porsche Boxster and Boxster S

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  • Sporty,
    You should be able to find a few 2005s left with a pretty good discount. Try San Diego Pioneer... they seem to be willing to work with you! Good luck and let me know how it goes!
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    Please help - was wondering if anyone else is facing the same dilemma. I can either buy a new 2005 boxster for around 40k, or buy a used Boxster S 2002/2003. I would like to buy a 2003 but cant seem to find any with low mileage for less than 36k (without shipping costs). There are some 2002's available for around 33-34k with pretty much no options except heated seats.

    Are these fair prices for 2002/2003s S's or in the longer run am i better off going for a 2005 non S? The one thing that bothers me is lack of a 6th gear on the 2005.

    Any advice will be really appreciated. Thanks !!
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'd probably go for the 2005 base Boxster:

    (1) It has 240hp - almost as much as the 2002/3 Boxster S (252, I think). Overall, I think the difference in performance between the two - acceleration and handling - would be relatively minimal. The difference beteen the old base Boxster at 217 hp and the new Boxster S at 280 is enormous. But not the two models you are considering.

    (2) The refined interior of the 2005 is heads and shoulders above previous models, IMO. And the exterior styling changes - headlights, etc. - are also very appealing to me.

    (3) The fact that the base Boxster has a 5-speed rather than a 6-speed is relatively minor, IMO. Porsche is very good about gearing the transmission to extract maximum performance out of the engine. And if you are like me, 90% of your fun will come rowing between 1st and 3rd/4th By the time you are cruising along the highway in overdrive, you will quickly forget whether it's in 5th gear or 6th.

    (4) The fact that it would be a brand new car, with full warranty, that YOU get to break in, would be very important to me.

    (5) Even though I personally favor new cars, there probably is a price for a pristine, low mileage Boxster S that makes good economic sense. If you don't intend to keep the car more than 1-3 years, that might be a prudent choice, if you find a great deal. But if this is a long term purchase, depreciation differences become less of a factor and I'd lean to the car you woould enjoy driving, sitting in and looking at.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • I wanted to post what was going on with my navigation system. I just called my dealer and found out that Porsche has a new map disk for my car. It is supposed to include the missing items. The dealer told me the disk was going to be 460.00 and if I was willing they would pay for half of it. I find it interesting that my original disk for a early model 2005 porsche would only cost 140.00 and now the price for the new one is 460.00. The explanation for that might be there is 4 times more information in the new one. I pointed out to my dealer that the navigation disk not containing complete maps was a warranty issue as far as I am concerned and Porsche USA should make it available for free. If anyone else has a pre june 2005 porsche with the navigation system please contact me and we can discuss the lack of consumer support Porsche is giving this issue
  • Wow, thanks for such detailed analysis. I am going with your suggestions total.
    I am in Southern Cal and it's in the mid to high 70's and sunny, and it is almost Christmas, so I have been driving with the top down often. Happy holidays.
  • im 22 year old, i own a 2000 boxster S tiptonic, today i got smoked by a nissan 350z, it was sad....How do i race with a tiptonic? is there any tip i can use or methods?
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    habitat1, thanks a lot for the detailed advice, what you say makes sense. i am going to try and see if i can find a 2005 with the options i want.

    i do want to keep it for around 3 years, which was a factor in looking at a used boxster S. The trouble is that i have come to realize that its really hard to find a "good deal" on a porsche here in the DC area. a dealer here wanted to sell me a used 2005 for 43k and another wanted me to pay something like 35k for a 2002 boxster S.

    thanks again for the post.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    The DC area isn't the easiest place to find a good deal. I ended up buying my new 911 at Valley Motors outside of Baltimore. A Pittsburgh dealer also made me a very good offer. But the local DC dealers, particularly Northern Virginia, were considerably higher ($5,000+).

    Good luck.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    If you want to look deeper into the Northeast you can probably find a good deal starting at this time of the year. When I bought my Boxster S two years ago the prices dropped like a rock the last two weeks of the year. It also depends on inventory. Try searching the NY area dealers since there are a lot of them.
  • I have a 2000 boxster s, when I start up my car after it sits for several hours, a cloud of white smoke comes from the exhaust. It only smokes for a few seconds and it clears up. I found oil in my throttle body, so I'm assuming its sucking oil from the engine. My engine light is also on now. Can anyone tell me what the fix is? :(
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    I’ve heard similar complaints elsewhere. Have you tried renntech.org?
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    had made up my mind on the new one but as luck would have it found a car with low mileage and 18inch wheels. love the car and am very happy :-). cant wait for summer. thanks for the help.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,770
    color...options...some details? inquiring minds want to know.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    :-).. its a black/black with heated seats and 18 inch alloy wheels, some painted crests that i dont really care about. the car drives great and the tires are in really good shape. of course i had to steel my nerves before getting insurance quotes and figuring out what the whole thing is going to cost me. very happy driving and i think no snow till next sunday so will make the most of the week.
  • lapis1lapis1 Posts: 1
    I've got a beautiful 99 Lapis Tiptronic that's never been in the rain that I have to sell. So sad.
  • Thank you habitat1, I've test driven the S2000 -- unfortunately am less than 5' so found the rear window and deck too difficult to see out of -- impossible to p'll park -- opted to pass on that one. I'm now thinking about the 2005 base Boxster -- I've found that the Porsche is one of the only sport cars with adjustable seats. Any thoughts?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    "I'm now thinking about the 2005 base Boxster -- I've found that the Porsche is one of the only sport cars with adjustable seats. Any thoughts?"

    The 2005 base Boxster is a very nice car. The interior improvements and exterior styling changes for 2005 make it much more attractive, IMO. And the 240hp engine in the 2005 base Boxster is now quite adequate, vs. the somewhat underpowered previous models.

    If you can find a leftover 2005, you should be able to negotiate a very good deal.

    Good luck.
  • tomk17tomk17 Posts: 135
    I'm not sure where you are located lorin5 but I've seen a few new 05's here in Massachusetts for $39,900 equipped with the the options I like (base 17" wheels, PSM, heated seats, "better stereo" although not Bose). Wish I was in the position to pop for one now but most likely this fall or winter.
  • Hi from Greece! I am 23 years old and i own an Audi A4 2.0T whixh i bought 3 years ago. I am going for MBA in Germany next year, so i am thinking of buying a Porsche boxter model of 99 (6 year-old car) with miles around 60000, with german plates, for about 19.000 Euro. What i would like to ask, is if you think this model of 1999 orths my money or should i buy something else, and to tell me the maintenance cost of a Porsche Boxter model of 99'that i ll have to pay per year. Also if you know, how much the insurance of the car is going to cost me per year. Thank you!!!!!
  • Hi,
    What I'm hearing is pinging in my new 2005 Boxster. At high way speeds any short burst of speed produces what sounds like pinging in the engine. The dealer where I've taken my car said that the pinging is so slight that it won't cause any problems.
    Any comments.
    jbg31792
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I think this board is mostly US based, and most of us don't have a lot of insight into the europan details we'd need to answer your question, but you might get lucky.

    As for the pinging/detonation, that seem bad to me. Are you using premium?
  • hudldhudld Posts: 1
    I have 'opportunity' to purchzse NEW '05 Boxster that is really loaded at $10k below msrp....or, get an '05 or '06 with ONLY options I want...? Comments?

    also, i have a '99 Boxster to sell - sell mine first; buy 'new'; then sell...if wait, risk losing that 'deal."

    tks.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Of course it’s your money and preference but I don’t care for heavily-optioned Porsches. The problem is that you may not find a leftover equipped to your liking.

    With regard to your 99 Boxster, it will probably take some time to sell it. Personally I would buy/sell separately, not have one dependent on the other if possible. And let the car you want rule the equation.

    It’s not easy to squeeze every friggin’ last dime out of P-car ownership. Porsche is the casino.

    ;-)
  • Thank you for the heads up! Actually in a market where cost is premium (DC area) so don't expect to find terrific deals here. Am considering holding off (like you) until later this year.

    May relocate to No Ca soon. Can anyone advise whether better to hold off, buy used 05 at 06 end? Or, try to get a deal on 05 (if I can find one) now?
  • Dude ! You'll get smoked EVERY time by a 350Z. Just have pride that "there is no substitute to Porsche ownership".

    :)
  • I am happy to be able to post a positive message on my GPS map problem. Porsche sent my dealership a Map disk to load into my factory gps system on my early 2005 boxster. The dealer also had to load a new operating system to go with the disk. The new disk is vastly improved. All of the locations which were missing on my old disk is now available. For anyone that has a boxster that is an early 2005 or older this disk should be availale for use. I had to pay a small fee for the update but it was about the same price as an oil change so all in all not too bad. If your dealer is not aware of the new disk have them call Jackie Cooper motors in Tulsa, Oklahoma that is the dealership that installed mine.
  • vitoriavitoria Posts: 1
    I'm clueless when it comes to cars; all I know is that I have had a disappointing experience with my current 2005 Maxima and I'm considering buying a 1999 Boxster. My question to you all is -- am I crazy to be considering the used Boxster? Is it a reliable ride? Are the maintenance costs excessive? Is allowing my teenager (girl) to drive it absurd? :confuse: Your feedback is much appreciated, thank you. vitoria88@aol.com
  • yellowcaryellowcar Posts: 46
    I recommend you spend some time thoroughly reviewing the posts in this forum for others experience. I have a post (msg #514, page 27) on long-term experience. You need to get seriously educated on the elements of ownership for any Porsche before making a purchase decision.

    Sorry you have had problems with your Maxima, I am a real fan of Nissan products.

    Teenagers and Porsche's??? Sounds like a potentially dangerous and expensive situation. :sick:
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'm not sure what kind of deal you would be getting on a 7+ year old Boxster, but I would suggest you also at least consider a newer (or new) Honda S2000. My 2002 model gave me 2.5 years and 20,000 miles for a whopping $330 in total routine service costs (5 oil changes / 15k service).

    Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Porsche and love my 911S, but the Honda S2000 is an extremely "prudent" choice if you are on a limited budget. And you'd have to get the new 2005+ Boxster S to match or exceed its performance.

    On the teenage daughter question - the answer is how good have you been at instilling responsibiity and discipline? If she knew how to drive, I'd hand the keys of my 911 to my 11 year old (after she passed a defensive driving course). Unfortunately there are plenty of teenagers out there that shouldn't be allowed to dress themselves.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,770
    AUTOMOBILE has a great comparison test of the new M Z4 Roadster vs. a Boxster S. Pricewise the cars were pretty evenly matched (at $58K & Change) with the Boxster S actually coming out a few hundred dollars cheaper. The BMW was faster and was a more stable at high speeds. The M understeers at the limit. The Porsche was much more comunicative and overall a more enjoyable car to drive. They picked the Porsche as the winner and the one to beat.

    I'm a big BMW fan and actually really like the Z4 (having never driven it, I'm talking about pure asthetics and my experience driving other BMWs). But unless I see a 3.0i with a Sports Package, I'm not particularly wowed by it. It is a great car for the money considering the steep discounts, rebates, & factory backed lease programs offered by BMW.

    The Boxster is a different story. It is an attainable exotic. Either Boxster or Boxster S makes my head turn. The people I've spoken to who own Porsches LOVE them. I had the pleasure of driving an '89 944 Turbo when I was 18 and I've been hooked ever since. I have a customer who drives a Cayenne Turbo and puts upwards of 40,000 miles per year on it (he just ordered his 3rd one). And of course habitat's recent stories of his gorgeous 911 S Cabriolet are great.

    My 30th birthday was this past Monday. I saw 4 Black/Black Boxsters and they were just calling me. Beautiful cars. Right now there's no room in my budget or my life (our 1st child is due in September) for a 3rd car especially a roadster (my 2001 Prelude SH is small enough), but as soon as I can get one I can't wait to check out a Boxster.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

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