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Porsche Boxster and Boxster S

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  • Still wondering if anyone sees the same temp reading on their boxter. I have a 2000 boxster and the temp reading goes between 180 and 250 a bit over the middle line. Is that normal for the boxster. Also notice a metal burning smell when i pick up a little more speed. COuld that be my clutch.. am i not clutching right or is that the engine smell... Normal or not normal??? please help
  • Does anyone have any idea of how to have the navigation system work without having the radio on at the same time? Sometimes I would like to have only the navigation system on WITHOUT the radio playing in between the times that the directions are given. Is there a way to do this? I've already set it so that the radio mutes whenever directions are being given but is there a way to just have the radio off altogether? :confuse:
  • Hi, 1stporsche,

    Can you give me the zip code of the dealer. I live in LA and want to buy my first Porsche (Boxster) but wasn't able to find a good deal yet.
  • "If cost of ownership is a deciding factor, buy a Nissan product." It's comments and expectations like this is the reason manufactures that produce performance-oriented cars don't make them more reliable.

    I have a BMW Z4, but really wanted a Boxster, but finances dictated the former choice. I too like you feel the same way, but paying $45K+ for a car ANY car...shouldn't we as consumers expect...no, demand more??

    Just food for thought. Enjoy the Boxster, hopefully, one day I'll own one. My Z4 is a blast, but it ain't no Porsche!
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'm not sure what, if anything, you gained by going with a Z4. One of my employees bought a low mileage 2001 Z3 last spring and it would have eaten her alive if she had not purchased an extended warranty and maintenance plan (for $1,800+). Everything from the power roof, water pump, brake rotors, power windows, radio, starter... It's hardly a car I would call low maintenance.

    On the other hand, I drove a 2002 Honda S2000 for 2.5 years, 19,000 miles and my grand total maintenance - including 4 Mobil 1 oil changes, a 7,500 and 15,000 mile service, was only $305. Not to mention I averaged 20-22 mpg around town and 30-32+ on the highway.
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    I have my heart set on buying a boxster S, I loved the drive. Ideally, I would like to buy a 2003 model but have not been able to find one i can afford. I found a 2002 boxster S at a dealer, it has low miles - 10k approx, and has no options except for heated seats.

    How much should be I be paying for this car ? I am not sure if 34K is good price ? The car does not have any extended warranty, the car fax is clean and dealer says no collision damage but i am not sure how to verify that. Any advice will be really appreciated on what i should be paying ?

    thanks for the help.
  • I wasn't trying to "gain" anything when I bought my Z4. I simply DID NOT want a Honda! I NEVER called the Z4 a low maintenance car...read the post! I was simply stating that those of us who buy high-end cars should demand more reliability.

    I bought what I wanted...well almost...I wanted a Porsche. Read my post again! The Honda S2000 is a nice roadster, but it wasn't on my list of choices.

    I wasn't flamming you just stating what I observed from my buying habits and others. Once again I HAD NO DESIRE TO BUY A HONDA S2000! I certainly wouldn't argue their reliability. If I was trying to gain anything, it was maybe my satisfaction of which I have achieved.

    When I begin a topic on low maintenance sports cars I'll be sure to let you know! Until then stick to the discussion.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Calm down already. ;)

    I read your post - perhaps incorrectly - that you bought the Z4 instead of the Boxster because you were concerned about the higher cost of ownership of the Boxster. (I had not thought there was that much of an initial price difference between a Z4 3.0 and base Boxster).

    I do agree that those of us that buy high end cars should demand more reliability and be able to expect good quality customer service. And in general, I think BMW moved in the right direction, whereas Mercedes has taken a step backwards. I am not sure about Porsche, but I guess I'll find out.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    " One of my employees bought a low mileage 2001 Z3 last spring and it would have eaten her alive" etc

    I dunno. My bmw has been cheaper than my buddy's honda.

    It's usually bad to jump to conclusions from one data point.

    dave
  • Please do not misunderstand me on the "cost of ownership" issue. I do not equate this with realiability. True, a lack of reliability drives up one's cost of ownership. But, if reliability is not an issue, then the cost of simply operating a car and replacing the things that wear out is a factor each person needs to consider before purchase time.

    I consider all of my Porsche's to be very reliable cars, and I have put some serious mileage on every one!!! But, they are / have been expensive to own in terms of consumables or major parts that that eventually broke.

    Not specific to omegagen but to all who read this post: Simply put, if you can't afford the ante, you should not be in the game. And, if you don't do your homework before buying a particular car, don't cry "surprise" when you are confronted with the "cost of ownership".
  • Sporty,
    You should be able to find a few 2005s left with a pretty good discount. Try San Diego Pioneer... they seem to be willing to work with you! Good luck and let me know how it goes!
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    Please help - was wondering if anyone else is facing the same dilemma. I can either buy a new 2005 boxster for around 40k, or buy a used Boxster S 2002/2003. I would like to buy a 2003 but cant seem to find any with low mileage for less than 36k (without shipping costs). There are some 2002's available for around 33-34k with pretty much no options except heated seats.

    Are these fair prices for 2002/2003s S's or in the longer run am i better off going for a 2005 non S? The one thing that bothers me is lack of a 6th gear on the 2005.

    Any advice will be really appreciated. Thanks !!
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'd probably go for the 2005 base Boxster:

    (1) It has 240hp - almost as much as the 2002/3 Boxster S (252, I think). Overall, I think the difference in performance between the two - acceleration and handling - would be relatively minimal. The difference beteen the old base Boxster at 217 hp and the new Boxster S at 280 is enormous. But not the two models you are considering.

    (2) The refined interior of the 2005 is heads and shoulders above previous models, IMO. And the exterior styling changes - headlights, etc. - are also very appealing to me.

    (3) The fact that the base Boxster has a 5-speed rather than a 6-speed is relatively minor, IMO. Porsche is very good about gearing the transmission to extract maximum performance out of the engine. And if you are like me, 90% of your fun will come rowing between 1st and 3rd/4th By the time you are cruising along the highway in overdrive, you will quickly forget whether it's in 5th gear or 6th.

    (4) The fact that it would be a brand new car, with full warranty, that YOU get to break in, would be very important to me.

    (5) Even though I personally favor new cars, there probably is a price for a pristine, low mileage Boxster S that makes good economic sense. If you don't intend to keep the car more than 1-3 years, that might be a prudent choice, if you find a great deal. But if this is a long term purchase, depreciation differences become less of a factor and I'd lean to the car you woould enjoy driving, sitting in and looking at.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • I wanted to post what was going on with my navigation system. I just called my dealer and found out that Porsche has a new map disk for my car. It is supposed to include the missing items. The dealer told me the disk was going to be 460.00 and if I was willing they would pay for half of it. I find it interesting that my original disk for a early model 2005 porsche would only cost 140.00 and now the price for the new one is 460.00. The explanation for that might be there is 4 times more information in the new one. I pointed out to my dealer that the navigation disk not containing complete maps was a warranty issue as far as I am concerned and Porsche USA should make it available for free. If anyone else has a pre june 2005 porsche with the navigation system please contact me and we can discuss the lack of consumer support Porsche is giving this issue
  • Wow, thanks for such detailed analysis. I am going with your suggestions total.
    I am in Southern Cal and it's in the mid to high 70's and sunny, and it is almost Christmas, so I have been driving with the top down often. Happy holidays.
  • im 22 year old, i own a 2000 boxster S tiptonic, today i got smoked by a nissan 350z, it was sad....How do i race with a tiptonic? is there any tip i can use or methods?
  • ignapignap Posts: 7
    habitat1, thanks a lot for the detailed advice, what you say makes sense. i am going to try and see if i can find a 2005 with the options i want.

    i do want to keep it for around 3 years, which was a factor in looking at a used boxster S. The trouble is that i have come to realize that its really hard to find a "good deal" on a porsche here in the DC area. a dealer here wanted to sell me a used 2005 for 43k and another wanted me to pay something like 35k for a 2002 boxster S.

    thanks again for the post.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    The DC area isn't the easiest place to find a good deal. I ended up buying my new 911 at Valley Motors outside of Baltimore. A Pittsburgh dealer also made me a very good offer. But the local DC dealers, particularly Northern Virginia, were considerably higher ($5,000+).

    Good luck.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    If you want to look deeper into the Northeast you can probably find a good deal starting at this time of the year. When I bought my Boxster S two years ago the prices dropped like a rock the last two weeks of the year. It also depends on inventory. Try searching the NY area dealers since there are a lot of them.
  • I have a 2000 boxster s, when I start up my car after it sits for several hours, a cloud of white smoke comes from the exhaust. It only smokes for a few seconds and it clears up. I found oil in my throttle body, so I'm assuming its sucking oil from the engine. My engine light is also on now. Can anyone tell me what the fix is? :(
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